CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Kevin doesn't understand the ways of the wedge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: GGEM on board for the D7-8 system as well...pretty juicy system on the GGEM (as it usually is). Hopefully we can embrace our inner Leon over the next couple weeks. Fwiw ... I rather like the flat wave version in this ... ferocious maelstrom of velocity anomalies we're trying to squeeze a winter out of .. If we're going to gin up an event in a given mid range or late mid range, open bottle rockets are the way NOT to violate baser physical limitations of having 13 isopleths between lake Superior and Florida. You'd expect flat waves moving fast. When the models attempt these curvi-linear perturbations in the flow .. one's smirk should immediate draw upon their face. Anyway, equally applicable in this Neptunian pattern is timing and amplitude headaches. So, obviously we have to get that to look confident. We'll see what the Euro brings, if any semblance of it. It is important to note that every 12 member of the GEFs that are available to free public has some form of baroclinic leaf blossoming in the south by Ds 6 and 7. The upshot, we lead next weekend with a nice dip in the -EPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Euro is gonna juice that GOM low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 GOM LOWGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Euro is gonna juice that GOM low. Leon and Scooter sprawling highs...hopefully a Jan '94 repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 check: just saw the Euro D6/7 ... while not 'quite' the same...similar enough at this time range for me. Nice positive sloped trough extends from the southern Rockies to the eastern Lakes, and this is a large scaled fit for plaguing, unrelenting subtropical height wall in the deep south... This is a nice prelude to an overrunning/durational thing; obviously subject to change... Also, can someone define what is meant by an 'internal leon' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, dendrite said: Some dig the girth more than the length. Just saying. some like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 That is classic Jan '94 on the Euro...look at that arctic airmass fighting the low and we get an epic temp gradient. Looks like one of those early Jan '94 systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Leon and Scooter sprawling highs...hopefully a Jan '94 repeat. Yep, a good thing to have. Feel a little silly commenting that far out, but I'm a little hungry for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: check: just saw the Euro D6/7 ... while not 'quite' the same...similar enough at this time range for me. Nice positive sloped trough extends from the southern Rockies to the eastern Lakes, and this is a large scaled fit for plaguing, unrelenting subtropical height wall in the deep south... This is a nice prelude to an overrunning/durational thing; obviously subject to change... Also, can someone define what is meant by an 'internal leon' ? Jerry has nicknamed the '93-'94 winter "Leon"....anyways...def has that Jan '94-esque look to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: check: just saw the Euro D6/7 ... while not 'quite' the same...similar enough at this time range for me. Nice positive sloped trough extends from the southern Rockies to the eastern Lakes, and this is a large scaled fit for plaguing, unrelenting subtropical height wall in the deep south... This is a nice prelude to an overrunning/durational thing; obviously subject to change... Also, can someone define what is meant by an 'internal leon' ? Isn't he related to the "eternal leon"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, ORH_wxman said: That is classic Jan '94 on the Euro...look at that arctic airmass fighting the low and we get an epic temp gradient. Looks like one of those early Jan '94 systems. +SNIP for me just like that event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 More like +SNPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, CoastalWx said: +SNIP for me just like that event. are you referring to that event in early January that year (94) when there was a pounding IP storm in shallow arctic air, and OES bands were ripping west underneath? hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Yep, a good thing to have. Feel a little silly commenting that far out, but I'm a little hungry for snow. At least there's both good ensemble support and good larger scale pattern support...it passes the smell test so to speak...so it's something to follow. Hopefully it doesn't decide to cut or something....always a possibility, but Tip makes a good point about those gradients. It's tough to get big cutters when the flow looks like that....worst case is you might cut a front ender to ice, but probably not shoving a sfc low west of us in that pattern. But who knows...D7 caveats in full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: are you referring to that event in early January that year (94) when there was a pounding IP storm in shallow arctic air, and OES bands were ripping west underneath? hmm Where I am now, had a mix of sleet and heavy OES with a temp near 20 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 To bad we can't lock that system now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: At least there's both good ensemble support and good larger scale pattern support...it passes the smell test so to speak...so it's something to follow. Hopefully it doesn't decide to cut or something....always a possibility, but Tip makes a good point about those gradients. It's tough to get big cutters when the flow looks like that....worst case is you might cut a front ender to ice, but probably not shoving a sfc low west of us in that pattern. But who knows...D7 caveats in full force. Yeah I agree. Fast flow can be a good thing when troughing develops out west like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Where I am now, had a mix of sleet and heavy OES with a temp near 20 lol. i knew it! hah actually, i was at uml back then; we had the same thing... although it wasn't really heavy snow... but, it was weird enough. we had well formed and dry aggregate clusters with rattling IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: i know it! hah actually, i was at uml back then; we had the same thing... although it wasn't really heavy snow... but, it was weird enough. we had well formed and dry aggregate clusters with rattling IP. There was prob like a 1-2C warm nose at 750mb while 925mb was -12C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: There was prob like a 1-2C warm nose at 750mb while 925mb was -12C. that's exactly what it was. the sounding curve from Chatham (or maybe that was ALB...) on the old school difax monitor had a violent right spike at like 10 K feet .. i remember us remarking, 'how often do you see a 10,000 foot tall sleet column'. it was very warm anomaly at that specific level... Usually by the time you get to that altitude it's snow anyway. hell, summer CBs snow at that height some times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 ... in any case, the D8-9 blizzard that results ... obviously that's not happening like that without a some serious ass-kissin' leprechauns. i just like the unanimous (pretty good actually) appeal for lop over getting going across every GEFs member. Helluva a good start. the -EPO leading has me intrigued, because where ever the baroclinic axis aligns it will be fresh and angry because of that - EPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: ... in any case, the D8-9 blizzard that results ... obviously that's not happening like that without a some serious ass-kissin' leprechauns. i just like the unanimous (pretty good actually) appeal for lop over getting going across every GEFs member. EPS? 3:15 for EPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 36 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Euro is gonna juice that GOM low. Best case scenario is PD II type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 49 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Kevin doesn't understand the ways of the wedge. Yes I do. Just want us to CAD too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Yes I do. Just want us to CAD too Reload and hopefully hit the ground running later next week. Until then, we draw the shades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cut Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: i knew it! hah actually, i was at uml back then; we had the same thing... although it wasn't really heavy snow... but, it was weird enough. we had well formed and dry aggregate clusters with rattling IP. What year from UML? Class of 91. Go Riverhawks!! Sorry for off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, cut said: What year from UML? Class of 91. Go Riverhawks!! Sorry for off topic. I was 2006 for undergrad, 2008 grad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cut Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I was 2006 for undergrad, 2008 grad. Nice - I'm assuming Meteo? I have B of Music. I went to the weather lab with a friend of mine from Durgin - I almost went for Met instead of music, but spandex and long hair won in the end!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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