mahk_webstah Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 A cutting deep storm is one thing but a weaker primary well to our west with artic antecedent airmass and an artic front to follow is no big deal; in fact is a pack density builder. This pattern hasn't produced deep lows so I'll bet against that scenario for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Every single EPS member has a cutter next weekend . Some as low as 987. I guess nowhere to go but up from that furnace 18z GFS lost the cutter Good front end for many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Did anyone see the 12z Euro? jesus h christ. 18 hour record cold followed 2 days later by record breaking 18 hours of warmth - that's what the oper looked like anyway. That's some pretty fantastic meteorology if that happens (d 5 -7). Incredible is more like it - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 31 minutes ago, Snow88 said: 18z GFS lost the cutter Good front end for many i don't know how anyone can tell what the f it's doing in a pattern like this... it's like 12 iso-heights of screaming rage rippling one phantom wave after another, every other run, none of which has the mechanical power to do anything against said background torrent of flow.. even if it were real. cutter schmutter... let's reconvene when the Earth stops being a douche and starts easing off the gradient throttle - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: i don't know how anyone can tell what the f it's doing in a pattern like this... it's like 12 iso-heights of screaming rage rippling one phantom wave after another, every other run, none of which has the mechanical power to do anything against said background torrent of flow.. even if it were real. cutter schmutter... let's reconvene when the Earth stops being a douche and starts easing off the gradient throttle - Tip, if there are 200 cars circling the NASCAR track at 350mph, does it stand to reason that a crash is likely, and an extremely violent crash at that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, Go Kart Mozart said: Tip, if there are 200 cars circling the NASCAR track at 350mph, does it stand to reason that a crash is likely, and an extremely violent crash at that? yeeeeah, i see what your attempting with that metaphor but it doesn't apply to the atmosphere. at all really... the flow's not going to 'make a mistake' at high velocity that results in a 'pile up of snow' ...or whatever cataclysm's in mind. doesn't work that way. the 'pile ups' happen when the waves break, that's ur better metaphor - taken further, they can't break when the flow is that fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 EURO favors snow to mid Cape while GFS is more so confined to the Outer Cape. Wind direction will be key in determining who gets the heavy snowfall from the OE Snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: yeeeeah, i see what your attempting with that metaphor but it doesn't apply to the atmosphere. at all really... the flow's not going to 'make a mistake' at high velocity that results in a 'pile up of snow' ...or whatever cataclysm's in mind. doesn't work that way. the 'pile ups' happen when the waves break, that's ur better metaphor - taken further, they can't break when the flow is that fast. Yeah a good analogy would be when the cars are racing around at 200mph but then all of the sudden a couple of them get blocked at a turn...that's when the "excitement" happens. Of course, there is no sign of the "block" to pile up the cars. We have gradient flow over the whole Western Hemisphere pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Yeah a good analogy would be when the cars are racing around at 200mph but then all of the sudden a couple of them get blocked at a turn...that's when the "excitement" happens. Of course, there is no sign of the "block" to pile up the cars. We have gradient flow over the whole Western Hemisphere pretty much. haha, zactly! oh man - can you imagine if that was like type race? like ...pop ups?? at 200 mph... how deviant. sorry that' funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Its too bad that the OES event is about five days away on the models otherwise we would be talking more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 0z GGEM and GFS both have some light snow overnight Tuesday into Wednesday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 For all of SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 5 hours ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: Its too bad that the OES event is about five days away on the models otherwise we would be talking more about it. No, you'd still be alone; no one else cares. Not a soul- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 damn Ray, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 00z and 6z NAM runs are bringing the 48 hour storm closer to the coastline and more juiced up as it passes to our southeast, still nothing but minimal snowflakes, but enough snowflakes to make you excited there is the possibility for more. EURO is likely mishandling the energy and the GFS is likely handling it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 4 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: No, you'd still be alone; no one else cares. Not a soul- LOL, Ray. Good luck, James. We'll keep our finger's crossed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 5 hours ago, SR Airglow said: 0z GGEM and GFS both have some light snow overnight Tuesday into Wednesday morning. Seems like it's turning into a 1-3 incher.. esp Pike area south and east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Seems like it's turning into a 1-3 incher.. esp Pike area south and east Arctic squalls for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Arctic squalls accompany the arctic front, a chance at ocean enhancement as a low pressure tries to develop end of front sometime in the Thursday timeframe. A low pressure develops near NC on Tuesday night and moves ENEward out to sea. CLips southeastern areas with a few tenths of an inch of precipitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 12 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Every single EPS member has a cutter next weekend . Some as low as 987. I guess nowhere to go but up from that furnace 6Z gfs is horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Another year another Torchmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Another year another Torchmas. Drown your sorrows at the GTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Another year another Torchmas. Even MPM has grass for the holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlymoogly Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Even MPM has grass for the holiday 20 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Another year another Torchmas. So much for not worrying. Rats. How bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm sure that block will show up next run.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Arctic squalls should be on rays fraud five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said: I'm sure that block will show up next run.. The 06 gfs at 384 hours looks like a blocky pattern is emerging. If we only had a 20-day gfs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Euro has next SWFE Fri nite/Sat as we go from highs near 10 Fri and below zero that morning to 50's to the ski resorts by Sunday. Has advisory snow for almost everyone before the giant eraser comes out Sunday. Does look a bit flatter than the stemwinder it had yesterday We 1980's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hopefully the SWFE trends a bit colder. It could given the trend of other systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Arctic squalls should be on rays fraud five. And Steve's top five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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