BuffaloWeather Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, weatherbo said: I'm terrible at dates, but '04 or '05 I remember Chesterton, in getting 9" in an hour and ended up with 33" out of the event and it was rather short lived iirc. Insane rates, that's about the max I've ever seen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Insane rates, that's about the max I've ever seen here. I bet Hoosier would know the exact event Latest forecast for this area. I think 12-14" will be tops imby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Started snowing at 3 this morning... wall of white! 5" so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokywx Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 16 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: That full fetch for days would bring some absolutely insane totals, would be awesome if one day we could get a persistent north wind. What is the all time best LES event for the south shore of Michigan? Just really difficult to get that flow locked in for any more than 18 hours or so. Like you said, rates can get crazy. I know I've seen 5/hr. Bo mentioned the 9/hr. in Chesterton, which is the heaviest I've heard of off Michigan. As for biggest single event, South Bend picked up 36.7 over 2 days in 2011: http://www.weather.gov/iwx/20110108_les. That's the heaviest I know of, and featured 8 in one hr. I will say, there have been numerous events in the 2-3 ft. range, but just hard to get over 3ft., due to the duration issue. I would imagine, anywhere from Eastern Porter County through all of LaPorte, and the western half of St. Joe would be the possible sweet spot for any extreme event. Obviously, someone could really get buried if a N-NW flow locked in for a couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, nokywx said: Just really difficult to get that flow locked in for any more than 18 hours or so. Like you said, rates can get crazy. I know I've seen 5/hr. Bo mentioned the 9/hr. in Chesterton, which is the heaviest I've heard of off Michigan. As for biggest single event, South Bend picked up 36.7 over 2 days in 2011: http://www.weather.gov/iwx/20110108_les. That's the heaviest I know of, and featured 8 in one hr. and 19in. in 4 hours, or something like that. I will say, there have been numerous events in the 2-3 ft. range, but just hard to get over 3ft., due to the duration issue. I would imagine, anywhere from Eastern Porter County through all of LaPorte, and the western half of St. Joe would be the possible sweet spot for any extreme event. Obviously, someone could really get buried if a N-NW flow locked in for a couple days. Found this too: 22.0” in 3 hours at Valparaiso, Indiana on Dec. 18, 1981. It would be fascinating to know what the highest rate was during that event. The northerly flow off MI often has a Superior connection too which helps. Not much info out there on Superior snowfall rates.... most go unreported due to vast areas with no people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 50 minutes ago, Willh said: Started snowing here I guess around 4am. Flurries at that time. Really started picking up around 8am...snowing pretty hard right now. I don't really measure unless its noteworthy...so I've been content to just watch it from the window whilst I read. Hope you get nailed Bo. We'll see... latest hi-res 12 z destroys this area with over an inch liquid, and with 25:1 or better ratios! woo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokywx Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, weatherbo said: Found this too: 22.0” in 3 hours at Valparaiso, Indiana on Dec. 18, 1981. It would be fascinating to know what the highest rate was during that event. The northerly flow off MI often has a Superior connection too which helps. Not much info out there on Superior snowfall rates.... most go unreported due to vast areas with no people. Wow...wasn't aware of that one. I do vaguely recall reading about a huge event in Michigan City back in the 50s or 60s. May have to do a little research on that. 22" in 3 hrs...you've got to imagine at some point in there, rates were at least 10in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 17 hours ago, weatherbo said: I bet Hoosier would know the exact event Latest forecast for this area. I think 12-14" will be tops imby. February 3-4, 2009 produced totals around 30" just east of Chesterton. There was an event in December 2004 that produced similar totals, but jackpot was a little farther east in Michigan City. As you guys mentioned, the problem with north flow setups is that they often don't last for more than several hours, and rarely more than 24 hours. They can dump quickly though... I recall numerous events that had like 12-18" pretty quickly. And what's nice is that ice coverage almost never gets extensive enough to preclude a significant event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, weatherbo said: Started snowing at 3 this morning... wall of white! 5" so far. Gorgeous. We have some snow coming here too but I can't wait. Leave two weeks from tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Gorgeous. We have some snow coming here too but I can't wait. Leave two weeks from tomorrow. You are going to be very pleased by then. Have you decided where you're staying, Josh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, weatherbo said: You are going to be very pleased by then. Have you decided where you're staying, Josh? Staying in Marquette and heading west of town for the snow play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 hours ago, nokywx said: Wow...wasn't aware of that one. I do vaguely recall reading about a huge event in Michigan City back in the 50s or 60s. May have to do a little research on that. 22" in 3 hrs...you've got to imagine at some point in there, rates were at least 10in. That's amazing. Picked up a little over 9" today, over 20" in ski country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: That's amazing. Picked up a little over 9" today, over 20" in ski country. Quite the diversity in the subforum between those who live in the belts versus us who mainly rely on synoptic systems. You make a ho hum post of getting 9+", while we would be filling pages of a thread about 9" of system snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 hours ago, IWXwx said: Quite the diversity in the subforum between those who live in the belts versus us who mainly rely on synoptic systems. You make a ho hum post of getting 9+", while we would be filling pages of a thread about 9" of system snow. LOL, welcome to LES, usually get used to the 6-10" snowfalls as they are very common. I do get a kick when posters in the sub talk about 1-3". I used to as well before moving up north. Over 12" snowfalls get some talk but not to much, heck I picked up over a foot the past few days haven't even had any weather headlines advisories etc. Just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Living in a lake belt would be my dream. Screw the east coast and their infrequent but potent noreasters. Our recent 2-week stretch of snowless weather was reminder enough for me that I have to have my climate of constant flakes. Lake effect does get interesting though in SE MI, as we can easily see whiteouts as well, but they hit out of nowhere and then taper off suddenly, rather than training for hours. Below is a perfect photographic timeline of a heavy snow squall, taken from the 16th floor of the Motor City Casino Hotel in downtown Detroit. I posted it in the Jan discussion though its pretty appropriate in this thread too. I can count about 4 whiteouts this winter that I have had thanks to the Lake, and 3 of the 4 times the accum ranged from half an inch to an inch (the 4th time was an unusual 2.5"). REALLY hoping for some lake effect when Im in the UP so I can see this for hours on end. The pictures span about 15 minutes from first to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishforsnow Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 5:37 PM, BuffaloWeather said: Keeweenaw is a peninsula so I believe you guys get hit on pretty much every flow? The best would most likely be W/NW flow. BOs best setup is a departing storm system that has wrap around moisture with aided Superior influence under a NE flow, but also does well on a NW flow due to orographic influences. Josh in Gaylord does best with NW flow as well as we see this year with the persistent W/NW flow with getting moisture from Superior and Michigan. For my location WSW is the best flow, for the city of Buffalo SW is the best. For the snow belts south of here NW/W flow with orographic lift helps boost annual totals to 220"+ per year. The Tug Hills best flow is by far W, they sometimes get a 3 lake connection that can result in absolutely insane rates. I live in Hancock and the best flow is from the west, north of here wsw, and south of here like Twin Lakes NW flow is the best. Sometimes we can get it from east flow. Like the one time when a low was retrograding west from Maine. We had a good east flow convergance set up Had two feet of snow that one day here from South Range up to Calumet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Very impressed with some of the action coming off of Lake Michigan, very healthy cells making it all the way to this side of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 16 hours ago, IWXwx said: Quite the diversity in the subforum between those who live in the belts versus us who mainly rely on synoptic systems. You make a ho hum post of getting 9+", while we would be filling pages of a thread about 9" of system snow. Yeah I don't live in the snowbelts but I live in a place that gets LES on a pretty regular basis. A 20 minute drive would put me in 175-200" annual snowfall but I'm to lazy to drive farther for work, love the 15-20 min drive to the city so I'm and content with what we get here. It's hard to compare with those that get LES on the regular as it just adds so much to your annual snowfall. We've had next to no synoptic here this year. The belts are over 200" and over 60" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 This is impressive. Band hasn't moved much the last couple of hours and is intensifying over western Lake Erie. This is how spots close to downtown Cleveland get a foot of lake effect snow...it's not very common for that area to get that much at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye_Weather Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just measured... 15" of snow here in Shaker Heights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Looking good for the weekend 10" +/- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, josh_4184 said: Looking good for the weekend 10" +/- 12+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, weatherbo said: 12+ For??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 -16 inches of fresh powder where I will be tomorrow. I can do 4 feet depth in Grand Marais thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, Willh said: Things are looking really good for the upper lake effect belt region over the next few weeks. Gonna be awesome. Have picked up prolly 13-15 inches of snow since last friday - always outperforming each daily snow forecast. Wasn't supposed to snow much today...not till tonight...but we've already picked up 1-2 inches and its coming down even harder now. The UP looks to stay above the crap zone for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, Willh said: I think John Dee chose @weatherbo's picture for his snow picture of the day! http://johndee.com/photos/february-1-2017/ Grats Bo! You're famous! Assuming HuronBo is you...but who else could it be, lol. Hey, well whatya know! Picked up 4" early this morning really quick. some of the fluffiest snow of the season I think. Back over 2' again. Since Thursday last week 18" has fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tug Hill is getting 4-6' they are already nearing 300" on the year. 4-6" per hour stuff coming tomorrow night for them. Snow depth is 50" already. INSANE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 That 7' will be completely buried by this weekend. An additional 3-4' expected by this weekend. Tughill Cams: http://www.northernchateau.com/northernchateau.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Over a 100" event in a few days going on in the Tug right now. Me and a buddy are thinking about heading up there tonight to chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Over a 100" event in a few days going on in the Tug right now. Me and a buddy are thinking about heading up there tonight to chase. Incredible! Clearly the Tug is going to take this Winter's snow crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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