Snowlover11 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 snowing in white plains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Radar is showing snow, but light rain is falling here in Suffolk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, Cfa said: Radar is showing snow, but light rain is falling here in Suffolk. Snowing and sticking in north jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Plain rain even with heavier echos. Warm ocean overcoming best dynamics right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequest Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Accumulating here in Oxford , Warren County NJ. Now sticking to roadways since this pic was taken 30 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 About 1 inch and still snowing in my area of north jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Thruway was the perfect dividing line in Rockland. North of it, very wet snow, rain/snow just to the south. About 1/2", slushy driveways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Thruway was the perfect dividing line in Rockland. North of it, very wet snow, rain/snow just to the south. About 1/2", slushy driveways. Roads are covered up in Sloatsburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 27F light snow falling 2.4" on the board 3.9" YTD must have caught a good burst, 10 min to my south I'd about a coating to 1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Last nights EPS maintains a snowy pattern 38 of 51 ENS support 6+ inches over a 10 day period for most, and 10+ for the interior also: After a small 1-2 day warm up around Dec 13-15, EPS really pours the cold air back in clean through DEC 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2.0" here.. Very pretty out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlymoogly Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said: Last nights EPS maintains a snowy pattern 38 of 51 ENS support 6+ inches over a 10 day period for most, and 10+ for the interior also: After a small 1-2 day warm up around Dec 13-15, EPS really pours the cold air back in clean through DEC 20 how warm? and doesn't this conflict with other guidance post-20th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Solid half inch here on colder and grassy surfaces in Mahwah. Second accumulating snow of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Drizzle here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Southeast ridge really going to be a problem for us along the coast. Long range looks like cutters or storms just to our north. It will be a struggle along the coast. Looks like cold then warm then back to cold in between storms. NNE going to do well along with upstate NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 There were some traces of snow from Harrison, NY and northward. Once one got past White Plains, there were coatings. The below photo was taken in Armonk, NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Nam has a few inches north and west of the city for tomorrow's event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I like what I'm seeing from a few members of the AO/NAO/PNA forecast in the long run...If we are lucky we could see a negative ao/nao with a positive pna before Christmas...There are also some members that are the opposite so proceed with caution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1.5" in Chester. Roads got salted, first time of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Changed to snow a few minutes before 3am received a coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Allsnow said: Southeast ridge really going to be a problem for us along the coast. Long range looks like cutters or storms just to our north. It will be a struggle along the coast. Looks like cold then warm then back to cold in between storms. NNE going to do well along with upstate NY. The SE Ridge or WAR has been a problem for the coast during the last 5 Decembers. With the exception of the mid-December 2013 snow, all the significant snowfall for the coast has held off until JFM. Having the amazing -AO/-NAO and record snowfall for December 2009 and 2010 was a pretty rare feat to pull off two years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Ended with 2.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Allsnow said: Southeast ridge really going to be a problem for us along the coast. Long range looks like cutters or storms just to our north. It will be a struggle along the coast. Looks like cold then warm then back to cold in between storms. NNE going to do well along with upstate NY. Exactly. This pattern is awful for snow unless you are in the far interior northeast and New England. SE ridge and very progressive flow no NAO blocking. Cutter, warm and rain then cold and dry after the cold fropa. Wash, rinse repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Exactly. This pattern is awful for snow unless you are in the far interior northeast and New England. SE ridge and very progressive flow no NAO blocking. Cutter, warm and rain then cold and dry after the cold fropa. Wash, rinse repeat You don't have to go that far... Areas 45+ miles away from the coast already have 5-8" of snow for the season with the potential for more in the next 36 hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 45 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Exactly. This pattern is awful for snow unless you are in the far interior northeast and New England. SE ridge and very progressive flow no NAO blocking. Cutter, warm and rain then cold and dry after the cold fropa. Wash, rinse repeat Check out the 12z GFS. GFS got rid of the cutters moving forward. Patience my friend. Very cold air moves into the U.S on the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 55 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Exactly. This pattern is awful for snow unless you are in the far interior northeast and New England. SE ridge and very progressive flow no NAO blocking. Cutter, warm and rain then cold and dry after the cold fropa. Wash, rinse repeat If the Atlantic continues to remain unfavorable, then we'll need a Pacific thread the needle event to have a shot at near or above normal December snowfall for the coast. The coast got lucky in December 2013 and 2008 when the Atlantic didn't cooperate. But there's always the risk that you don't get the event and the month finishes with below normal snowfall. 2 thread the needle events driven by the Pacific pattern 12/14/13 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2013/us1214.php 12/19/08 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2008/us1219.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Snow88 said: Check out the 12z GFS. GFS got rid of the cutters moving forward. Patience my friend. Very cold air moves into the U.S on the GFS I have zero confidence in anything the operational GFS shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: If the Atlantic continues to remain unfavorable, then we'll need a Pacific thread the needle event to have a shot at near or above normal December snowfall at the coast. The coast got lucky in December 2013 and 2008 when the Atlantic didn't cooperate. But you always run the risk that you don't get the event and the month finishes with below normal snowfall. 2 thread the needle events driven by the Pacific pattern 12/14/13 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2013/us1214.php 12/19/08 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2008/us1219.php The '13 event had some brutally cold air in here which helped-took longer than models had predicted for it to be scoured out-we had 6 inches of snow covered by a close to a half inch of ice on top. '08 event here was all snow, but the rain line stopped just south of me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I have zero confidence in anything the operational GFS shows. This. Next run will show something completely different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 hour ago, bluewave said: The SE Ridge or WAR has been a problem for the coast during the last 5 Decembers. With the exception of the mid-December 2013 snow, all the significant snowfall for the coast has held off until JFM. Having the amazing -AO/-NAO and record snowfall for December 2009 and 2010 was a pretty rare feat to pull off two years in a row. Perhaps we can pull off a 2008 with a front end dump before a change to rain along the coast. The cold air will be around next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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