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December 2016 Discussion & Observations


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5 minutes ago, Eduardo said:

If memory serves, the winters following those two Decembers were quite different, with 2013-2014 being cold, snowy, and EPO-driven? I remember 2008-2009 being unremarkable...

2008 2009 saw snowfall 125% of normal. So above average at least for coastal CT

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37 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said:

Great analysis.  something nobody really mentioned but what's your thoughts on the convergence zones setting up over lakes and enhanced streamers pushing this Far East?... from what I can see (which is only basic) some of us have a real shot at getting caught in some enhancement 

 

Those lakes are very warm.  You guys could see that stuff work it's way too you .

 

But better than that, you will stay on the right side of the Barroclinic zone and could rack up point with a lot of these systems. 

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5 hours ago, PB GFI said:

 

Those lakes are very warm.  You guys could see that stuff work it's way too you .

 

But better than that, you will stay on the right side of the Barroclinic zone and could rack up point with a lot of these systems. 

We have the cold coming, but any chance of breaking this cutter pattern by Christmas? 

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1 minute ago, ForestHillWx said:

What cutter pattern? I think that PB is eluding to. The models will catch up to the cold HP burrowing down into Canada.

I'm just going off the GFS, but it looks like it gets cold and always warms up to rain. Maybe the models are slow to catch it like you said.

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I think the GFS is over amping some of the storms right now; the flow appears a bit too quick, with not much to slow it down on the Atlantic side in order to allow a traversing system to amp up and cut to the lakes. Definitely rolling the dice though, wouldn't be surprised if we get some ice storms as others have indicated.

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58 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

39 in the park now.

Fellow Urban Heat Island residents, how are you spending the last few hours of our growing season?

Growing season, we will see you again in late March/early April!

Growing season is done, 11/25:

 

NOUS41 KOKX 250636
PNSOKX
NJZ006-NYZ072>075-176-178-179-251100-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
136 AM EST Fri Nov 25 2016

...The growing season has ended across southern Nassau County in
New York, the five boroughs of New York City, and Hudson County
in New Jersey...

Although a widespread freeze has not yet occurred across the area,
it is now more than two weeks after the average first freeze date
for southern Nassau County, New York City, and Hudson County New
Jersey.

The frost and freeze program has now been ended across all areas
in southeast New York, northeast New Jersey, and southern
Connecticut. The frost and freeze program will resume during the
growing season in the Spring 2017.
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1 hour ago, uofmiami said:

Growing season is done, 11/25:

 


NOUS41 KOKX 250636
PNSOKX
NJZ006-NYZ072>075-176-178-179-251100-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
136 AM EST Fri Nov 25 2016

...The growing season has ended across southern Nassau County in
New York, the five boroughs of New York City, and Hudson County
in New Jersey...

Although a widespread freeze has not yet occurred across the area,
it is now more than two weeks after the average first freeze date
for southern Nassau County, New York City, and Hudson County New
Jersey.

The frost and freeze program has now been ended across all areas
in southeast New York, northeast New Jersey, and southern
Connecticut. The frost and freeze program will resume during the
growing season in the Spring 2017.

LMAO they just did that because we were so far past the avg first freeze dates.  We still have plenty of things growing here - most stuff is gonna get killed this weekend though.

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8 hours ago, uofmiami said:

Growing season is done, 11/25:

 


NOUS41 KOKX 250636
PNSOKX
NJZ006-NYZ072>075-176-178-179-251100-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
136 AM EST Fri Nov 25 2016

...The growing season has ended across southern Nassau County in
New York, the five boroughs of New York City, and Hudson County
in New Jersey...

Although a widespread freeze has not yet occurred across the area,
it is now more than two weeks after the average first freeze date
for southern Nassau County, New York City, and Hudson County New
Jersey.

The frost and freeze program has now been ended across all areas
in southeast New York, northeast New Jersey, and southern
Connecticut. The frost and freeze program will resume during the
growing season in the Spring 2017.

How was it more than two weeks after the average first freeze date on 11/25? LGA's average first freeze occurs on 11/24, NYC on 11/20, and JFK on 11/19. I'm confused.

Still hovering just above 32F, first freeze is either gonna happen this morning or tonight.

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