Allsnow Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 8 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: We've had 8 daily lows 32 or below so far, including 30 this morning. Coldest was 28 on 11/28 and 29 on 11/13. I was speaking for posters like cfa who is still picking peppers etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, bluewave said: This block going up near the Bering Sea is among the strongest recorded in December during recent years. The only stronger block that I could find was a +500 meter anomaly back in December 2010. The two closest positive anomalies in that region for December were in 2013 and 2008. Both those years reached 400+ meters like the one the next few days. Following the very strong blocks in 2008 and 2013 NYC recorded minimum temperatures of 13 and 19 degrees. Monthly snowfall for NYC totaled 6.0" and 8.6". 2016...+434 meters 400+ meters in 2008 and 2013 That ridge looks like it wants to combine with the ridge in Europe in that ensemble image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This block going up near the Bering Sea is among the strongest recorded in December during recent years. The only stronger block that I could find was a +500 meter anomaly back in December 2010. The two closest positive anomalies in that region for December were in 2013 and 2008. Both those years reached 400+ meters like the one the next few days. Following the very strong blocks in 2008 and 2013 NYC recorded minimum temperatures of 13 and 19 degrees. Monthly snowfall for NYC totaled 6.0" and 8.6". 2016...+434 meters 400+ meters in 2008 and 2013 Huge diffs in the Western and Northern Atlantic including towards Greenland all the way across to Western Europe however when comparing 2008/2013 to 2016. Guess we will have to see how those differences correlate in comparison to the 2 temperature regimes. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Huge diffs in the Western and Northern Atlantic including towards Greenland all the way across to Western Europe however when comparing 2008/2013 to 2016. Guess we will have to see how those differences correlate in comparison to the 2 temperature regimes. Any thoughts? While it's tough to get a perfect match, both those Decembers were Nina or cold neutral with the dominant block was near Alaska rather than Greenland like this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Man, that EPS run last night was coldest I've seen yet...through the 22nd also both the mean and control runs are very snowy, ensembles like the 11-16 timeframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Man, that EPS run last night was coldest I've seen yet...through the 22nd also both the mean and control runs are very snowy, ensembles like the 11-16 timeframeWhere do you guys get the EPS past day 10? Pay site? Can u PM me a link if it is free data please? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 18 hours ago, Morris said: And the polar opposite today. An epic torch. Can we agree to never post what it says? And back to cold in the new run for January. The CFS is beyond just a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Where do you guys get the EPS past day 10? Pay site? Can u PM me a link if it is free data please? Thanks. Mine goes out 15 days on wxbell, idk any free site that's go past 10 sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Mine goes out 15 days on wxbell, idk any free site that's go past 10 sorryI didn't think so. Thanks for responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 18 minutes ago, Morris said: And back to cold in the new run for January. The CFS is beyond just a joke. Those that continue to post them along with the absolute joke that is the CanSIPS, are only trolling, and it's painfully obvious, when you ignore the runs that are cold, and seek out runs and models that are warm to post, you're showing your cards. Notice how they (and we know who they are) are MIA December will go down as BN for many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 10 hours ago, Snow88 said: CMC is way weaker than the GFS in regards to the wave on Sunday. Looks like snow showers for the area. GFS also came south and colder than 18z but not there yet in regards to all snow. Overall the Sunday/Monday setup does not look too good to me because the winds would likely be south ahead of the system. Its a setup that in February you could probably do okay on before changing over, but not early December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said: Overall the Sunday/Monday setup does not look too good to me because the winds would likely be south ahead of the system. Its a setup that in February you could probably do okay on before changing over, but not early December. For the city that is, Sunday's wave has decent potential for those of us north and west of NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said: Overall the Sunday/Monday setup does not look too good to me because the winds would likely be south ahead of the system. Its a setup that in February you could probably do okay on before changing over, but not early December. So you don't think it would at least start as snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 9 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: We've had 8 daily lows 32 or below so far, including 30 this morning. Coldest was 28 on 11/28 and 29 on 11/13. How close are you to the water? You are farther east but i appear to radiate better, hit 28 yesterday morning. Had 0.46 from this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: I was speaking for posters like cfa who is still picking peppers etc He lives just over the border in Queens. Nassau County East of the Wantagh Parkway and north of the southern state has likely had their first freeze already. I think all of Suffolk has had their first freeze as well, other than the barrier islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, psv88 said: He lives just over the border in Queens. Nassau County East of the Wantagh Parkway and north of the southern state has likely had their first freeze already. I think all of Suffolk has had their first freeze as well, other than the barrier islands. Yeah but an hour at 31.5 degrees won't do much. We need a hard killing freeze which may finally happen this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 34 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: So you don't think it would at least start as snow? It may be one of those 30-90 minute snow to rain deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Morris said: And back to cold in the new run for January. The CFS is beyond just a joke. Don't tell CIK62 that.. He runs that model out of his basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said: Overall the Sunday/Monday setup does not look too good to me because the winds would likely be south ahead of the system. Its a setup that in February you could probably do okay on before changing over, but not early December. I think there is low level cold air ( better source region ) and poorly modeled WAA that may allow some snow to fall before it flips . So it will give way , but there should be some before it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 44 minutes ago, psv88 said: He lives just over the border in Queens. Nassau County East of the Wantagh Parkway and north of the southern state has likely had their first freeze already. I think all of Suffolk has had their first freeze as well, other than the barrier islands. Oh okay. I was wondering why he is always so much warmer then you guys. He doesn't radiate well at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I have had multiple freezes here in Deer Park, NY on Long Island. I live close to the Edgewood preserve, along with Pilgrim State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Like the gfs ? GFS tries to get a secondary low going south of LI for weekend, closer than previous runs, still pushes off drops 3-6" for most in the area, westchestee cashes in on 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said: GFS tries to get a secondary low going south of LI for weekend, closer than previous runs, still pushes off drops 3-6" for most in the area, westchestee cashes in on 12z Yes and at 120 its - 5 @ 850 at KNYC 33 on a NW wind while it secondaries . That would flip everyone back to snow unless there is putrid 925 nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, PB GFI said: Yes and at 120 its - 5 @ 850 at KNYC 33 on a NW wind while it secondaries . That would flip everyone back to snow unless there is putrid 925 nose NYC is 3-6" on GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, UlsterCountySnowZ said: NYC is 3-6" on GFS Look what is behind this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, PB GFI said: Look what is behind this one Just missed us to the south but very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The point is there are plenty of chances we get dumped on next week actually starting this weekend. I called for a historic snowfall this month but it probably won't happen but I'll be happy with some snow at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 12z GFS next 14 days at 2M off twitter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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