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December pattern/forecast thread


weathafella

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23 minutes ago, weathafella said:

Another interpretation is heavy snow but not as cold for Xmas week.

ENS would imply that. Not seeing any torch signals with that overbearing cold deeply entrenched in the USA from the Missisppi to Mexico with all of Canada BN with  NW Canada ready to unload again. that PV sitting there rotating around will send spokes of energy, Albert A. Clipper my man.

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

I don't get the fetish of using ensemble snow maps. They may be the most useless product out there. 

You are so mean. One thing I have used them for over the years is to understand how each individual member interprets the flow. Very useful for seeing gradual changes to deeper consensus. No fetish but rather a way of seeing how the Euro ens handles the overall evolution of the pattern. 

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

You are so mean. One thing I have used them for over the years is to understand how each individual member interprets the flow. Very useful for seeing gradual changes to deeper consensus. No fetish but rather a way of seeing how the Euro ens handles the overall evolution of the pattern. 

But the nuances that go into getting snow...temperature, s/w, exact low track and not to mention member uncertainty...I don't see how they are useful.  I guess if you want trend analysis perhaps...but personally I wouldn't look at them.

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8 minutes ago, dryslot said:

I get off on them 400 thickness's up here, Then let it snow afterwards

Yes get us the cold entrenched with snow cover and we begin the process of cooling the continent. Absolutely important as we have seen over the years to develop the cryosphere to exert influence on pressure fields. There is a reason all these progged cutters are morpfing weaker and further south as the resistance increases as the cold wall is building, obvious what is transpiring in your region, classic NNE winter

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

But the nuances that go into getting snow...temperature, s/w, exact low track and not to mention member uncertainty...I don't see how they are useful.  I guess if you want trend analysis perhaps...but personally I wouldn't look at them.

Avert your eyes and post some IO stuff I guess.

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I mean the extreme cold is sort of useless without snow...unless you don't want your sled to fall through the ice of course.

My exact reason as you mentioned, We need all bodies of water to freeze, Northern part of the state is dealing with that now, Plenty of snow there, And plenty of open water to go with it.

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