Buckeye_Weather Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Any chance for the snow to stick around/ receive any new snow Christmas for NE Ohio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have to post this just for posterity. I realize it won't get that cold, but -34 for east-central IA would be an all-time record. At any rate, it looks pretty cold for the western part of the subforum in the extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Have noticed that the ridging around Alaska has gotten more persistent on recent models. Not seeing a tendency to break it down. That bodes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 It might -not- be mild for Christmas when I'm there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 13 hours ago, nwohweather said: Checking the MOS I cannot believe the cold it is showing for next week. I do not remember the last time we flirted with 0° in mid December here in Toledo well, there was Christmas 2004, but I guess that's not mid December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 at that map. Who knows - if we get a decent snowpack over the next 3-7 days and get one of the nights to clear out with light winds, the bottom could drop out. The long mid-December nights will help too. As always, it's a matter of timing this far out...but you have to like our chances for some cold mornings between now and Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Here comes big bertha on the 00Z GFS next weekend. That time period has been showing something of interest off and on for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Here comes big bertha on the 00Z GFS next weekend. That time period has been showing something of interest off and on for a while.Was literally just going to posts it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Here comes big bertha on the 00Z GFS next weekend. That time period has been showing something of interest off and on for a while. The GFS has a snow to ice storm event for my area. Has the Dec 2013 ice storm written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Snowstorms said: The GFS has a snow to ice storm event for my area. Has the Dec 2013 ice storm written all over it. That run has snow to ice for a lot of folks. Tremendous precip shield with warmer air overrunning the cold dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Hoosier said: That run has snow to ice for a lot of folks. Tremendous precip shield with warmer air overrunning the cold dome. If this storm pans out, I wouldn't be surprised if some areas do end up seeing ice with such a tight gradient. Looks more interesting than this weekends event esp with the vort placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveSN+ Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 It's been showing a storm, but it's also been showing a storm around the middle of next week consistently and now it's gone. Wouldn't put too much faith in it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 GGEM has a nice storm next weekend as well. This is obviously subject to change but the ice zone is huge on both models. Like enormous. Any relatively deep system would spread varying/changing ptypes over a large area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Really liking the trends for next weekend. Been showing an actual southern stream system for a much more widespread area. My hopes may rise for a big storm here in Central Indiana. It sucks waiting sometimes knowing areas north and south (like last 2 winters) have been getting the good storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 49 minutes ago, Hoosier said: GGEM has a nice storm next weekend as well. This is obviously subject to change but the ice zone is huge on both models. Like enormous. Any relatively deep system would spread varying/changing ptypes over a large area. It would actually be larger than currently shown if the synoptic pattern being shown verifies. The models aren't factoring in the snow that will be on the ground after Sunday night, that is going to be a pretty healthy snow pack as well, so some of the areas that might warm on this system aloft might have a hard time warming at the surface with flow out of the east/northeast with this system. Either way this could be a dozy if the synoptic pattern verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Euro, GFS and GEM agree on a storm at that range. Timing and strength differ, but the general setup of a strong cA/mT boundary with a wide open Gulf and plenty of in-situ and advected frigid air around will make for an interesting scenario. Definitely going to be keeping my eye on this one. Ripe for an ice event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Hoosier said: That run has snow to ice for a lot of folks. Tremendous precip shield with warmer air overrunning the cold dome. Yeah, both the GFS and Euro have the WAA wing from hell. Multiple waves ejected out ahead of the system too. Nice plume of instability overriding the dome as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Another thing about next weekend, and admittedly this is all still very speculative... if the ice zone comes far enough north, it would be coming on very cold ground given what temps are going to be like in the coming days. Could be one of those situations where there's a lag time with the surfaces still accreting even in areas where temps get above freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Apparently word on social media was already getting around about a historic winter storm for next weekend. Local met tweeted out about the false information. Even heard a conworker chatter about how she heard "the perfect storm" could be coming next weekend. Give me a break. Social media is a disease. Especially weather related lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, Chambana said: Apparently word on social media was already getting around about a historic winter storm for next weekend. Local met tweeted out about the false information. Even heard a conworker chatter about how she heard "the perfect storm" could be coming next weekend. Give me a break. Social media is a disease. Especially weather related lol. FWIW LOT AFD just mentioned the potential of a doozy late next week, but your point is well taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I know the potential is there, but it's premature people tossing Around false graphics. Any who interested for this timeframe for sure. Hopefully I-80 south folks they folks cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Would be nice for a widespread storm next weekend including us in cen indiana im sick of cold rain. Gonna keep my hopes up. It has looked impressive several runs now especially the canadaian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I must say, the 12z GGEM was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Entertaining 18z GFS for next weekend. I think almost everybody here sees all precip types by the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Entertaining 18z GFS for next weekend. I think almost everybody here sees all precip types by the end. Dizzying airmass change too... for fun, there's areas in northern IL/IN that go from -10F to 40F in a span of 36 hours. That would be quite a thing to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Too early since this is like 6-7 days away but some parts of the midwest is going to have a bit of "ice ice baby" from this storm, unless this storm system disappears from the GFS lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Hoosier said: Dizzying airmass change too... for fun, there's areas in northern IL/IN that go from -10F to 40F in a span of 36 hours. That would be quite a thing to see. Man that will be fun to watch to be sure. Hope model trends continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, cyclone77 said: Man that will be fun to watch to be sure. Hope model trends continue. Gotta like the chances for something, whatever it may be (more of a strung out mess or a deeper system). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, Hoosier said: Gotta like the chances for something, whatever it may be (more of a strung out mess or a deeper system). I would prefer a strong storm with lots of snow and no ice (unless it's sleet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Natester said: I would prefer a strong storm with lots of snow and no ice (unless it's sleet). If there's one thing I've learned about Natester, it's that he doesn't like ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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