north pgh Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 47 minutes ago, Mailman said: 0z Canadian is a blatant troll job. Wtod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Worst Winter I can remember. If we are going to get anything, better happen over next 3 weeks. According to accuweather, Late Feb could bring another warm up and then we get into March and longer days. Grrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks to another half inch today and Friday, I'm now up to 5" on the winter! Progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 5:23 PM, snowsux said: That's crazy. You'd think you'd get more being up in the mountains like that. My ex-wife's family had a place near Deep Creek, MD and they just got annihilated with snow every year without fail. 80-90 inches in a season was nothing for them up there. I always thought it was ironic how well that area handled winter too. Especially in terms of cleanup. By early May, you never would've thought there was 2 feet of snow on the ground there 50-60 days prior. Everything was clean as a whistle. Meanwhile down here in the Pittsburgh region, it looks like God turned a giant dumpster upside-down in the sky by the end of every winter season. It gets worse depending on how much of a snowpack we've got, and the man-made remnants of winter are visible year-round here both from the trash, as well as the absurd amount of salt/brine/whatever that the local road crews put down. Nothing is more irritating to me than seeing a local plow truck out salting the roads in the beginning of April when it's a chilly rain with no threat of temperatures dropping below freezing, and it happens around here every year. While true, I don't think my elevation is particularly remarkable. I'm just over 1,000 ft. here and we have a bit of strange microclimate. We're certainly too far from the major ridges to get those same orographic bonuses. Deep Creek is more than double the elevation of Morgantown (2,400 ft. or so), thus not too surprising they do so well with all the snowfall. I've only lived here about 6.5 years now, but in my experiences, it is unusual for us to get the same amount of snow as Pittsburgh local. We only do as well or better during southern-stream systems that are placed just about perfectly. Other than that we warm very quickly in marginal events and we barely get lake effect, with clippers the only alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well GFS is still showing a storm and while nothing significant all it would take is just a little adjustment and boom the low explodes. Gonna be a long week of tracking I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ryd10 said: Well GFS is still showing a storm and while nothing significant all it would take is just a little adjustment and boom the low explodes. Gonna be a long week of tracking I think. It's been pretty consistent showing a system in the Sunday PM/Monday AM time frame next week. It's been speeding up the precip arrival now to Sunday afternoon. The track has been waffling though I know its still 7 days away. It's too good right now for us this early which is a bad thing in my opinion. The Friday event is disorganized and shunts off across the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rd9108 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, north pgh said: The storm itself is more like 4-6 I thought. Although there's a low in the GOM right after this one. So finally we get to all east track something. Just in time for my wxbell to expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Woke up to a fresh inch of high ratio snow this morning! I've probably got a solid 2-3 inches on the ground in my yard right now and a solid band was just coming through when I left for work so maybe another .5 on top of that. Looks like a few bands may persist but winds should be shifting from out of the SW ahead of the next clipper tonight. The clipper tonight \ tomorrow we flirt with mixing with WAA out ahead of it. The storm next weekend looks like a Miller B setup on GFS. Right now the primary is making it a little further North than I think we would prefer to see, it makes it almost right on top of us, but you can see the secondary starting to develop off the coast around Southern NJ. Ideally we want to see that whole transfer take place in WV otherwise we probably mix at some point due to a warm layer somewhere. At least we have lots of stuff to track over the next 10 days at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Ryd10 said: The storm itself is more like 4-6 I thought. Although there's a low in the GOM right after this one. So finally we get to all east track something. Just in time for my wxbell to expire. Maybe you should let it expire so it will bring us good luck! I saw this site posted that actually shows Euro Precip maps for free: https://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/ Not as comprehensive as WxBell but better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, RitualOfTheTrout said: Woke up to a fresh inch of high ratio snow this morning! I've probably got a solid 2-3 inches on the ground in my yard right now and a solid band was just coming through when I left for work so maybe another .5 on top of that. Looks like a few bands may persist but winds should be shifting from out of the SW ahead of the next clipper tonight. The clipper tonight \ tomorrow we flirt with mixing with WAA out ahead of it. The storm next weekend looks like a Miller B setup on GFS. Right now the primary is making it a little further North than I think we would prefer to see, it makes it almost right on top of us, but you can see the secondary starting to develop off the coast around Southern NJ. Ideally we want to see that whole transfer take place in WV otherwise we probably mix at some point due to a warm layer somewhere. At least we have lots of stuff to track over the next 10 days at least. I got close to 2 inches at my house. Been a while since I had to shovel the driveway. I must have been in a nice band. As I drove to work much less in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Special Weather Statement Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 813 AM EST MON JAN 30 2017 OHZ041-PAZ013-014-020>022-073-WVZ001-301415- Columbiana-Armstrong-Butler-Lawrence-Westmoreland-Beaver-Allegheny- Hancock- 813 AM EST MON JAN 30 2017 ...INTENSE SNOW SHOWERS WILL AFFECT EASTERN COLUMBIANA...BEAVER... LAWRENCE...BUTLER...ALLEGHENY...NORTHWESTERN WESTMORELAND... SOUTHWESTERN ARMSTRONG AND NORTHEASTERN HANCOCK COUNTIES... At 810 AM EST, strong snow showers reducing visibility to less than a mile were located along a line extending from 6 miles southwest of Slippery Rock to 6 miles northeast of East Palestine to near Salem. Movement was southeast at 25 mph. Reduced visibility and quick accumulation of snow will likely impact travel. Locations impacted include... Pittsburgh... Penn Hills... Mount Lebanon... Bethel Park... Ross Township... McCandless Township... Monroeville... Cranberry... Moon Township... New Castle... McKeesport... Butler... This includes the following highways... Pennsylvania Turnpike between mile markers 1 and 67. Interstate 79 in Pennsylvania between mile markers 50 and 105. Parkway North between mile markers 1 and 13. LAT...LON 4021 7976 4018 7985 4024 7996 4024 7997 4025 7992 4032 8015 4048 8036 4048 8042 4063 8069 4090 8094 4090 8090 4093 8089 4093 8082 4090 8082 4090 8052 4107 8052 4105 8011 4101 7992 4069 7938 TIME...MOT...LOC 1310Z 304DEG 20KT 4100 8014 4091 8046 4085 8087 $$ 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I have been watching that line. Hopefully it holds together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The snow squall is over me now. I was surprised to see my NWS forecast for up to 5" between now and tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 We had a nice little squall line pass over us just now, dropped half an inch in about 25 minutes. Roads were somewhat clear but now they're all covered again. Between that and whatever snowed overnight we managed a couple inches somehow, almost totaling the biggest event of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, jwilson said: We had a nice little squall line pass over us just now, dropped half an inch in about 25 minutes. Roads were somewhat clear but now they're all covered again. Between that and whatever snowed overnight we managed a couple inches somehow, almost totaling the biggest event of the season. Yeah, my kids were texting me pictures. Two are in WVU there and one just graduated from there last year and still lives there. Big fluffy flakes coming down here with that squall that has kept together from the Cleveland area. Some yellows showing up on radar with it on the tail end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 While this is directed at Chicago, look at the map where he shows the heavy precip falls over the next week... Western PA 1 to 2 inches of precip .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 This is long range stuff, but if it happens would likely portend a cold and snowy end to Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Check out the 12Z CFS from yesterday.. Ryds fav model.. Then look at the 0z... 12z has winter thru whole month, lots of snow, then 0z has winter over for most of US by mid-month. Crazy flip http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=cfs&p=snod&rh=2017012912&fh=12&r=conus&dpdt= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, colonel717 said: Check out the 12Z CFS from yesterday.. Ryds fav model.. Then look at the 0z... 12z has winter thru whole month, lots of snow, then 0z has winter over for most of US by mid-month. Crazy flip http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=cfs&p=snod&rh=2017012912&fh=12&r=conus&dpdt= I don't get that model at all. What use does it have? It's worse than the JMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Slightly weaker, but still there on the 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, colonel717 said: I got close to 2 inches at my house. Been a while since I had to shovel the driveway. I must have been in a nice band. As I drove to work much less in other areas. Funny how snow showers work. We live in the same town and I don't think I even have an inch. I haven't measured it yet, but I know it's not a whole lot when I still see plenty of grass poking up through the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 12z GFS keeps the 540 line well south of PA for the Super Bowl storm. It doesn't have the low bombing out until it gets up by NYC and Boston. That would be a good thing to keep moisture back over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 146 PM EST MON JAN 30 2017 MDZ001-OHZ041-PAZ013-020-021-073-074-076-WVZ512>514-310315- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0006.170131T0600Z-170131T2100Z/ GARRETT-COLUMBIANA-LAWRENCE-BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-WESTMORELAND- WESTMORELAND RIDGES-FAYETTE RIDGES-EASTERN PRESTON-WESTERN TUCKER- EASTERN TUCKER- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF MOUNTAIN LAKE PARK, OAKLAND MD, GRANTSVILLE, EAST LIVERPOOL, SALEM, COLUMBIANA, NEW CASTLE, ELLWOOD CITY, ALIQUIPPA, BEAVER FALLS, AMBRIDGE, MONACA, PITTSBURGH METRO AREA, MURRYSVILLE, GREENSBURG, NEW KENSINGTON, LIGONIER, DONEGAL, CHAMPION, OHIOPYLE, TERRA ALTA, ROWLESBURG, HAZELTON, PARSONS, HENDRICKS, SAINT GEORGE, DAVIS, THOMAS, AND CANAAN VALLEY 146 PM EST MON JAN 30 2017 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 4 PM EST TUESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 4 PM EST TUESDAY. * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 4 INCHES. * TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL DEVELOP AFTER MIDNIGHT. THE HEAVIEST SNOW IS EXPECTED BETWEEN 4 AM AND 10 AM TUESDAY MORNING. RAIN MAY MIX IN WITH THE SNOW BY NOON. PRECIPITATION WILL TAPER TO SHOWERS DURING THE AFTERNOON. * IMPACTS...THE SNOW WILL CREATE SNOW COVERED ROADS AND HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS. * WINDS...SOUTHWEST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW WILL CAUSE PRIMARILY TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR SNOW COVERED ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING. PLEASE REPORT SNOWFALL BY CALLING 412-262-1988, POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGH FACEBOOK PAGE, OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH && $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Looks like tomorrow is a 2-3 type deal with maybe 4 if it over performs or doesn't mix too quick. I'll take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, Ryd10 said: Looks like tomorrow is a 2-3 type deal with maybe 4 if it over performs or doesn't mix too quick. I'll take it In Pittsburgh, we are probably getting fringed o. The southern edge. 50 miles northlooks like they could get 3-5 inches. I think we might get an inch or two at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: In Pittsburgh, we are probably getting fringed o. The southern edge. 50 miles northlooks like they could get 3-5 inches. I think we might get an inch or two at best. I do think 1-2 is more likely Pgh-south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Damn you guys are more negative than me. This will over perform, bet the house on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The low for Sunday and Monday has trended worse and worse. Could this be just the models losing the storm and it comes back after the midrange crisis or is this just going to keep trending bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Ryd10 said: Damn you guys are more negative than me. This will over perform, bet the house on it I am further south than you. Not seeing any model support for much more than an inch IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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