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Met Winter 2016-17 Banter

dmillz25

By dmillz25,
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bluewave

bluewave

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La Nina special... 

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BISMARCK ND
1014 AM CST SUN DEC 25 2016

...VERY SIGNIFICANT HIGHLY IMPACTFUL WEATHER TODAY INTO MONDAY...

...ICE STORM WARNING FOR LAMOURE...DICKEY...AND MCINTOSH COUNTIES
TODAY AND TONIGHT...THEN BLIZZARD WARNING UNTIL NOON ON MONDAY...

...BLIZZARD WARNING FOR WESTERN AND CENTRAL NORTH DAKOTA UNTIL
NOON ON MONDAY...

.A POWERFUL WINTER STORM WILL HARSHLY IMPACT WESTERN AND CENTRAL
NORTH DAKOTA...AND ADJACENT AREAS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND
CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES...WITH HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS.
WIDESPREAD SNOW AMOUNTS OF 8 TO 12 INCHES WITH SOME 15 INCH
AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED. WIND GUSTS AS HIGH AS 55 MPH WILL RESULT IN
VERY DANGEROUS IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TRAVEL. SOME ROADS WILL BECOME
BLOCKED BY DRIFTING SNOW. CONSIDER CHANGING TRAVEL PLANS.

FOR THE AREA SOUTH OF JAMESTOWN...INCLUDING LAMOURE...EDGELEY...
OAKES...ELLENDALE...AND ASHLEY...AN ICE STORM WARNING IS IN
EFFECT FOR TODAY AND TONIGHT. SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATIONS UP TO
A QUARTER OF AN INCH WILL MAKE TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS OR
IMPOSSIBLE. POWER OUTAGES DUE TO FALLING TREE BRANCHES AND POWER
LINES WILL ADD TO THE DANGER. THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A BLIZZARD
MONDAY MORNING.
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Rjay

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Almost exactly this time 6 years ago this was issued:

 

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...A MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL IMPACT THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH

MONDAY AFTERNOON...

CTZ007>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-

260500-

/O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0005.101226T1800Z-101227T1800Z/

/O.NEW.KOKX.BZ.W.0002.101226T1100Z-101227T2300Z/

NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-

SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-

WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-

EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-

RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST

MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD

WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST MONDAY.

THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...NEW YORK CITY AND ITS

IMMEDIATE SUBURBS...LONG ISLAND...AND COASTAL AND INTERIOR

SOUTHEAST CONNECTICUT.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE

BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW AND NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...11 TO 16 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS

POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SNOW BANDS WHOSE EXACT LOCATION IS STILL TOO

EARLY TO DETERMINE. SNOW MAY MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO RAIN AND

SLEET AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS

EASTERN LONG ISLAND...AND POSSIBLY ACROSS COASTAL SOUTHEAST

CONNECTICUT...WHICH COULD HOLD DOWN AMOUNTS THERE...BUT ONLY

AFTER SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

* IMPACTS...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DEVELOPING DUE

TO SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...AND STRONG WINDS CAUSING

CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW. VISIBILITIES WILL BE

NEAR ZERO AT TIMES...WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS EXPECTED. STRONG

WINDS MAY ALSO DOWN SOME POWER LINES...TREE LIMBS...AND

CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY BEGIN DURING SUNDAY

MORNING...THEN BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON

INTO MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT. LIGHT SNOWS WILL LIKELY LINGER INTO

MONDAY MORNING AND POSSIBLY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.

* WINDS....DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM SUNDAY NIGHT...NORTH

WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS 40 TO 55

MPH...HIGHEST ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN LONG ISLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG

WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT

CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF

YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET

STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

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psv88

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Didn't realize this board was a pissing match for forecast verification. Everybody can make their own conclusion as to who is best. 

My personal observation is that the best forecasters, for whatever reason, don't boast about their records (most likely because they aren't insecure re their skill level). Sure, some look back and briefly reference or critique their own forecasts, but this score keeping is incredibly weak. 

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CPcantmeasuresnow

CPcantmeasuresnow

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8 hours ago, Rjay said:

Almost exactly this time 6 years ago this was issued:

 

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...A MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL IMPACT THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH

MONDAY AFTERNOON...

CTZ007>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-

260500-

/O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0005.101226T1800Z-101227T1800Z/

/O.NEW.KOKX.BZ.W.0002.101226T1100Z-101227T2300Z/

NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-

SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-

WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-

EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-

RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST

MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD

WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST MONDAY.

THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...NEW YORK CITY AND ITS

IMMEDIATE SUBURBS...LONG ISLAND...AND COASTAL AND INTERIOR

SOUTHEAST CONNECTICUT.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE

BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW AND NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...11 TO 16 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS

POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SNOW BANDS WHOSE EXACT LOCATION IS STILL TOO

EARLY TO DETERMINE. SNOW MAY MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO RAIN AND

SLEET AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS

EASTERN LONG ISLAND...AND POSSIBLY ACROSS COASTAL SOUTHEAST

CONNECTICUT...WHICH COULD HOLD DOWN AMOUNTS THERE...BUT ONLY

AFTER SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

* IMPACTS...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DEVELOPING DUE

TO SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...AND STRONG WINDS CAUSING

CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW. VISIBILITIES WILL BE

NEAR ZERO AT TIMES...WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS EXPECTED. STRONG

WINDS MAY ALSO DOWN SOME POWER LINES...TREE LIMBS...AND

CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY BEGIN DURING SUNDAY

MORNING...THEN BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON

INTO MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT. LIGHT SNOWS WILL LIKELY LINGER INTO

MONDAY MORNING AND POSSIBLY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.

* WINDS....DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM SUNDAY NIGHT...NORTH

WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS 40 TO 55

MPH...HIGHEST ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN LONG ISLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG

WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT

CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF

YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET

STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

Thanks for a beautiful memory.

There is of course no mention of Orange County in the above and we received over two feet of snow. I suppose it wasn't windy enough for the NWS to include us in the warning.

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IrishRob17

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8 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Thanks for a beautiful memory.

There is of course no mention of Orange County in the above and we received over two feet of snow. I suppose it wasn't windy enough for the NWS to include us in the warning.

My records show we got bumped into the Blizzard Warning later on. 18.1" here, one of my favorite storms, awesome drifting around here from all of the open fields. 

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CIK62

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Big LR improvement on GFS from yesterday.    Now indicates the more usual (for the last 22months) 9BN days out of the next 30.     NewYearsDay  is the first.  But really arctic air never gets here so far.   Yesterday there were just 2BN days showing. 

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Stormlover74

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1 minute ago, CIK62 said:

Big LR improvement on GFS from yesterday.    Now indicates the more usual (for the last 22months) 9BN days out of the next 30.     NewYearsDay  is the first.  But really arctic air never gets here so far.   Yesterday there were just 2BN days showing. 

Dont need arctic air just cold enough for snow

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WeatherFeen2000

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Hope u guys get some snow. Currently in Aruba with sunny skies around 80. Weather is weird here, it rains a few times a day literally for a few minutes and that's it. No humidity though I really like this place a lot. Kinda pissed that I might miss the snowstorm on Thursday afternoon but I'm on my honeymoon so I wish u guys the best of luck and hope you guys had a good Christmas.

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pazzo83

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43 minutes ago, WeatherFeen2000 said:

Hope u guys get some snow. Currently in Aruba with sunny skies around 80. Weather is weird here, it rains a few times a day literally for a few minutes and that's it. No humidity though I really like this place a lot. Kinda pissed that I might miss the snowstorm on Thursday afternoon but I'm on my honeymoon so I wish u guys the best of luck and hope you guys had a good Christmas.imageproxy.php?img=&key=20fe2b78d4e66dff

Umm it's 83/75 at the only station in Aruba right now.

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wthrmn654

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So disappointed, where I work, we were possibly going to get one of the 17 enhanced mesonet stationsthrough New York mesonet program, along with getting a coop station from nws that I'll be running Most of the time. However, NWS,being slow and understaffed still hasn't done the install but have the equipment finally,should be installing next year sometime.  Finally contacted mesonet people to find out there not bringing one of the enhanced stations to east end. Would if been really cool with the microwave and all the other hi-tech equipment it has. Between the NWS and mesonet,the north fork still in my opinion lacking official equipment, as there's about 3 or 4 plus new mesonet on south fork from west Hampton to montauk. And one new mesonet in Southold. One coop in mattituck, and that's it I do believe. Other coop stations further east have either ended,plum island for example, and greenport where village neglect of maintenance means NWS wants nothing to do with them. 

That's my end of the year banter lol now to put the bills in mailbox and play some call of duty on my new ps4.

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wthrmn654

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On 12/25/2016 at 3:07 PM, Rjay said:

Almost exactly this time 6 years ago this was issued:

 

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...A MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL IMPACT THE REGION FROM SUNDAY THROUGH

MONDAY AFTERNOON...

CTZ007>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-

260500-

/O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0005.101226T1800Z-101227T1800Z/

/O.NEW.KOKX.BZ.W.0002.101226T1100Z-101227T2300Z/

NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-

SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-

WESTERN PASSAIC-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-WESTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-WESTERN UNION-

EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-

RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

355 PM EST SAT DEC 25 2010

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST

MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD

WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST MONDAY.

THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...NEW YORK CITY AND ITS

IMMEDIATE SUBURBS...LONG ISLAND...AND COASTAL AND INTERIOR

SOUTHEAST CONNECTICUT.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS...WITH CONSIDERABLE

BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW AND NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...11 TO 16 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS

POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER SNOW BANDS WHOSE EXACT LOCATION IS STILL TOO

EARLY TO DETERMINE. SNOW MAY MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO RAIN AND

SLEET AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS

EASTERN LONG ISLAND...AND POSSIBLY ACROSS COASTAL SOUTHEAST

CONNECTICUT...WHICH COULD HOLD DOWN AMOUNTS THERE...BUT ONLY

AFTER SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

* IMPACTS...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DEVELOPING DUE

TO SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...AND STRONG WINDS CAUSING

CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW. VISIBILITIES WILL BE

NEAR ZERO AT TIMES...WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS EXPECTED. STRONG

WINDS MAY ALSO DOWN SOME POWER LINES...TREE LIMBS...AND

CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL LIKELY BEGIN DURING SUNDAY

MORNING...THEN BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON

INTO MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT. LIGHT SNOWS WILL LIKELY LINGER INTO

MONDAY MORNING AND POSSIBLY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.

* WINDS....DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM SUNDAY NIGHT...NORTH

WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS 40 TO 55

MPH...HIGHEST ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN LONG ISLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG

WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT

CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF

YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET

STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

Didn't we have a similar event as this,well we did, the year Sandy hit? It was a blizzard, snow like crazy changed to heavy rain for hour at 10 pm, then back to heavy snow for rest of storm and a big drop in temperatures. Long Island expressway was closed and a big disaster along with  route 347 with stranded cars etc. Took days to clean up everything as there's was about inch of ice and 2 feet of snow. Required heavy equipment,bulldozers,bucket loaders, we lost power for 10 hours. I think I spent 3 days of plowing at work with half our road missing from Sandy.

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