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Upstate NY/North Country + adjacent ON, QC, VT: Fall into Winter!


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Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Buffalo NY
226 PM EST THU DEC 8 2016

NYZ012-019-020-085-082015-
Southern Erie-Cattaraugus-Chautauqua-Wyoming-
226 PM EST THU DEC 8 2016

...A BAND OF INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT FAR
SOUTHEASTERN ERIE...NORTHERN CATTARAUGUS...FAR SOUTHWESTERN WYOMING
AND NORTHEASTERN CHAUTAUQUA COUNTIES...

At 215 PM EST, A 10 mile wide band of intense heavy lake effect snow
producing snow fall rates of 2 TO 4 inches per hour extended inland
from Lake Erie with Dunkirk to Arcade on the northern end and
Cassadaga to Machias on the southern end.

This band of snow will remain nearly stationary through late
afternoon, while continuing to remain its current intensity.
Thunder and lightning will be quite possible within this band.
Visibilities will be reduced to less than a quarter mile at
times.

Some locations along the Chautauqua ridge are quickly approaching a
foot of snow.

Locations impacted include...
Dunkirk, Fredonia, Springville, Westfield, Gowanda, Arcade, Chaffee,
Suny Fredonia, Ashford Hollow and East Concord.


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...A BAND OF INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT FAR
SOUTHEASTERN ERIE...NORTHERN CATTARAUGUS...FAR SOUTHWESTERN WYOMING
AND NORTHEASTERN CHAUTAUQUA COUNTIES...

At 215 PM EST, A 10 mile wide band of intense heavy lake effect snow
producing snow fall rates of 2 TO 4 inches per hour extended inland
from Lake Erie with Dunkirk to Arcade on the northern end and
Cassadaga to Machias on the southern end.

This band of snow will remain nearly stationary through late
afternoon, while continuing to remain its current intensity.
Thunder and lightning will be quite possible within this band.
Visibilities will be reduced to less than a quarter mile at
times.

Some locations along the Chautauqua ridge are quickly approaching a
foot of snow.

Locations impacted include...
Dunkirk, Fredonia, Springville, Westfield, Gowanda, Arcade, Chaffee,
Suny Fredonia, Ashford Hollow and East Concord.

This includes Interstate 90 between exits 60 and 59.

Conditions in the above locations will be extremely poor through the
remainder of the afternoon hours. Travel will be very difficult and
hazardous as snow cover continues to increase on area roads. If you
must travel in areas south of Buffalo be prepared for severe winter
weather driving conditions. Slow down and allow plenty of extra time
when traveling.
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Sunday/Monday storm system is looking interesting once we get thru this lake-effect event.  WNY seems close to a rain/snow mix, especially lower elevations, but decent potential anyway for an area-wide hit.  Fun times ahead tracking/chasing the next couple weeks...

From BUF:

Sunday and Sunday night, the above mentioned backing flow is expected ahead of the next system expected to arrive during this time period. Consensus model blend would suggest that isentropically driven snow arrives very late Saturday night or early Sunday, continuing through into Sunday night. This system does have a tap into Gulf moisture, with profiles showing deep moisture through the dendritic growth zone which would help snowfall rates. It is very possible that several inches of widespread snow will fall Sunday into Sunday night with another possible winter weather headline event looming.

 

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22 minutes ago, Buffalo Bumble said:

Sunday/Monday storm system is looking interesting once we get thru this lake-effect event.  WNY seems close to a rain/snow mix, especially lower elevations, but decent potential anyway for an area-wide hit.  Fun times ahead tracking/chasing the next couple weeks...

From BUF:

Sunday and Sunday night, the above mentioned backing flow is expected ahead of the next system expected to arrive during this time period. Consensus model blend would suggest that isentropically driven snow arrives very late Saturday night or early Sunday, continuing through into Sunday night. This system does have a tap into Gulf moisture, with profiles showing deep moisture through the dendritic growth zone which would help snowfall rates. It is very possible that several inches of widespread snow will fall Sunday into Sunday night with another possible winter weather headline event looming.

 

With a track to the NW of BUF, it looks to be a front-end only hit.

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1 minute ago, wolfie09 said:

No track over buffalo on the euro, it's a transfer..

 

Sunday
Snow likely, mainly after 1pm. Cloudy, with a high near 32. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Sunday Night
Snow. Low around 28. Chance of precipitation is 80%.

I was gonna mention the exact same thing but I refrained, lol.

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Monday looks like a front end 2-5" type snow followed by mix and then dry slot with some embedded DZ.  I dont really see an immediate coastal transfer on GFS the last few runs, but there is indication of primary low cyclolisis as slp increases with time. If a secondary forms it's well NE of our latitude.  Better hope the primary low doesn't get too strong or we could end up with a longer period of rain or mix.  A weaker system should keep this ~80% frozen for most of CNY/WNY.  Then we can have the Tug Hill and Chautauqua ridge get more lake snow on the backside and then more for them mid/late week when it gets colder.

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I'm really not concerned with details at this point since were still 4 days away. A lot can change, and will, by then but I'm quite confident the GFS is bringing the primary way to far North with the amount of Blocking that exists but we've seen stranger things happen.  I'm just happy we have storms to track the next week or 2 perhaps into Christmas. I'm pretty confident in a white XMAS this yr too so thats a good thing as the fam is visiting and they live in Tropical NJ, lol

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16 minutes ago, AppsRunner said:

Reports off the Tug are brutal. Pulaski/Sandy Creek both at 2", Constableville 4". Maybe the actual tug was better but pretty bad for how long they snowed there 

Yeah, KBUF didn't do to good today unless something changes. Wind shift is imminent, so if anything is gonna happen, it beter fast but then again the TUG can cash in on a NW flow as well because of orografic reasons.

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26 minutes ago, AppsRunner said:

Reports off the Tug are brutal. Pulaski/Sandy Creek both at 2", Constableville 4". Maybe the actual tug was better but pretty bad for how long they snowed there 

Eh not that bad redfield had 3" at 3 and has probably been at least 2" an hour since they have a foot I bet

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