Syrmax Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just did a measurement around the yard, front and back. Average of 20", low was 18, high was 22. my "official" spot must be to obscured by hemlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 4ft in Redfield and Florence over in Oneida County lower part of the Tug. Montague is close to 4ft also. And still snowing hard up there. One of the snowmobile clubs is out with one of thier groomers to rescue some stranded hunters out on one of the seasonal roads. Crazy storm and weather the last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Syrmax said: Just did a measurement around the yard, front and back. Average of 20", low was 18, high was 22. my "official" spot must be to obscured by hemlocks. Dude, sweet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, LakeEffectKing said: Absolutely getting clobbered here at Syracuse University... got to be pushing three inches per hour Nice George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 One last burst this eve for a bit. Then wait for next storm. Great storm for case study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Congrats to the Rochester and Syracuse posters! I'll be in the Rochester area the first weekend of December to attend a Christmas event at Genesee Country Village. Hoping there's still some snow left on the ground then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Going to take a while to wrap my brain around this storm. I think it's almost the largest single event since I moved here in 2004. VD II (2007?) may have been a bit more over 2+ days IMBY but that was a very distinguishable two part storm, a synoptic phase of 15-16" and about 10-12" of lake effect afterwards. This is sort of a bizarre lake assisted hybrid featuring an ULL and triple point slp that germinated northeast of here. Violates the classic weenie axiom that backside and "wraparound" snows usually underperform. And the fetch of moisture that wrapped around in the CCB all the way from Bermuda...I don't remember a storm quite like this, especially when the original primary buried Minnesota and headed well north of here, into Quebec, funneling record (?) warmth, near 70 in SYR, into NY the day before the storm. Not a classic Miller A or B for these parts, I think. Would love to see NWS or other Mets due a post-mortem on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Syrmax said: Just did a measurement around the yard, front and back. Average of 20", low was 18, high was 22. my "official" spot must be to obscured by hemlocks. About the same here.....I had 14" when I left for work.....cleaned my board(s), and measured 6" for the day....both 12 hour measurements...so 20" for the storm..17" OTG....Still light to moderate....expect maybe another 1-3".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 12 hours ago, wolfie09 said: Did someone say drifts?lol Somewhere in that pic we have an SUV..Just means more shoveling:-( Looking into my backyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Going to take a while to wrap my brain around this storm. I think it's almost the largest single event since I moved here in 2004. VD II (2007?) may have been a bit more over 2+ days but that was a very distinguishable two part storm, a synoptic phase of 15-16" and about 10-12" of lake effect afterwards. This is sort of a bizarre lake assisted hybrid featuring an ULL and triple point slp that germinated northeast of here. Violates the classic weenie axiom that backside and "wraparound" snows usually underperform. And the fetch of moisture that wrapped around in the CCB all the way from Bermuda...I don't remember a storm quite like this, especially when the original primary buried Minnesota and headed well north of here, into Quebec, funneling record (?) warmth, near 70 in SYR, into NY the day before the storm. Not a classic Miller A or B for these parts, I think. Would love to see NWS or other Mets due a post-mortem on this. Really a great event....deformation snows flowing over the top of shallower LES.....cloud seeding from above FTW. And the deform bands were able to snow hard outside the LES bands without disruption of the surface flow supporting the LES....So you had upper level snows at around 1"/hr.....pure LES under those that put out 1-2"/hr....and when the two overlapped, upwards of 3"/hr..... We need more stacked lows over S. Quebec/N. VT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, wolfie09 said: Looking into my backyard Great shots!!! BBQ grill?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Great Pics! 40" official already. LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT NEW YORK ...CAYUGA COUNTY... 6 SW PORT BYRON 27.0 620 PM 11/21 COCORAHS ...JEFFERSON COUNTY... 2 S LORRAINE 30.0 510 PM 11/21 STORM CHASER LORRAINE 27.0 522 PM 11/21 STORM CHASER ...OSWEGO COUNTY... 6 E LACONA 40.0 600 PM 11/21 COCORAHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Latest totals. This isn't just a small area getting hit. Basically everyone from Batavia to Watertown to Albany to Binghamton all got 18-40"+ I think this might go down as a 4-5 star Lake Effect Event, at least 4 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 From Tom Niziol. " This has got to be one of the biggest large scale snow events for Upstate New York in the month of November. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Congratz on the LES guys, seeing some pretty awesome pics coming out of Western NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 BBQs are the best measurng stick known. Always calibrated, always on, and universally understood. The multi dimensional nature of them gives you a few reference points on snow depth. If the ground is warm, the snow on top will accurately reflect what fell. Plus any drifting and blowing will be apparent. Really a useful tool in winter. I didnt really pay attention to this one until I spotted some snow flakes yesterday down here at HPN. Looked like that mega streamer just blowing out its last few puffs all the way down here! Amazing. i think the retrograde doubled everything up. Yes I would like to see more of these type of enhanced Synoptic snows this winter. Warm lakes means business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Latest totals. This isn't just a small area getting hit. Basically everyone from Batavia to Watertown to Albany to Binghamton all got 18-40"+ I think this might go down as a 4-5 star Lake Effect Event, at least 4 stars. It gets a 4.5 I say. The widespread nature is amazing, but because the Synoptics dirty up the LE totals, can't be a five. It's like an asterisk. Plus, the 5 star event from 2014 has to be the elite LE event, and has to be the tallest trophy on the mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 28 minutes ago, LakeEffectKing said: Great shots!!! BBQ grill?? Haha, no it's a flat ceramic tile table that sits about 2-3 feet off the ground.. Here is a pic from last night.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 At least a 4 star event, even with a synoptic asterisk. The 2014 Event has to be 5 star but the wide total coverage of this one sets it apart from the usually more narrowly focused mega LES events. Maybe the oddest part was the nearly complete shutout for Buffalo proper. Let's hope a decent 240/250 flow event sets up for them this winter. It's been a while but usually is as it's such a rare wind flow to sustain. Maybe this'll be a winter of unusual storms. I'll take that over the PV sitting on top of us for a month at a time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, cleetussnow said: It gets a 4.5 I say. The widespread nature is amazing, but because the Synoptics dirty up the LE totals, can't be a five. It's like an asterisk. Plus, the 5 star event from 2014 has to be the elite LE event, and has to be the tallest trophy on the mantle. There has been quite a few 5 star events though. 95, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2014. The number of the bigger cities impacted by this storm might earn it a 5. Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton with nearly 2 feet+. That is extremely rare and I don't think its ever happened before in a lake effect snow event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: How did the Tug do? I think I hate myself for missing this. The Tug is getting hammered...looks like 30-40" up there and still going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Carol Yerdon up in Redfield a couple of hours ago reported 50", she is the weather watcher up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Congrats upstate NY folks! I'm driving from State College to Albany tomorrow via I-88 and I'm hoping to see some nice accumulations on the ground between Binghamton and Albany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Revracer800 said: Carol Yerdon up in Redfield a couple of hours ago reported 50", she is the weather watcher up there. 10pm PIS from BUF http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=BUF&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off ...OSWEGO COUNTY... 6 E LACONA 40.0 600 PM 11/21 COCORAHS 8 NNW REDFIELD 37.0 800 PM 11/21 COCORAHS 5 S LORRAINE 37.0 450 PM 11/21 STORM CHASER 2 NE ORWELL 34.0 449 PM 11/21 STORM CHASER 4 E SMARTVILLE 33.0 410 PM 11/21 STORM CHASER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think the thing that impresses me the most about this LES event is just how far reaching some of these major totals are...going through the Binghamton area all the way into far NE PA. BGM's latest PNS has 24.2" (!!!) at the NWS Binghamton office as of a little after 10 tonight with probably more additional continuing to fall in that area. I'd have to think that would be a 5 star LES event for that particular region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Revracer800 said: Carol Yerdon up in Redfield a couple of hours ago reported 50", she is the weather watcher up there. She just reported 54 inches and still snowing in Redfield... she's a quality Observer she's probably measuring between the 6 and 12 hours that you're supposed to... a lot of the other totals from some of those folks up in the Tug I'm sure aren't measured "officially" correctly... That said I will get up with just over 2 feet...25"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, LakeEffectKing said: She just reported 54 inches and still snowing in Redfield... she's a quality Observer she's probably measuring between the 6 and 12 hours that you're supposed to... a lot of the other totals from some of those folks up in the Tug I'm sure aren't measured "officially" correctly... That said I will get up with just over 2 feet...25"... Channel 9 news out did a interview with Carol last night, crazy how much snow up there. She said the record is 423" in a season and she hopes that record falls this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 20 hours ago, LakeEffectKing said: Absolutely getting clobbered here at Syracuse University... got to be pushing three inches per hour Good times. This must remind you of your time in Parish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Well, I had a feeling this would be pretty good, but I didn't think it would be THIS good. Congrats to you guys up there off Ontario. A great way to kick off the season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 storm reports map (November 19th to 21st) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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