MJO812 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 0z Ukie is slightly more north for the mid atlantic people. Matthew gets to Hatteras. Never did on the 12z run 0z http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=00&mod=ukmet&stn=PNM&comp=1&run2=00&mod2=ukmet&stn2=PNM&hh2=072&fixhh=1&stn2_type=prog&mode=latest&yyyy=latest&mm=latest&dd=latest&hh=060 12z http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=12&mod=ukmet&stn=PNM&comp=1&run2=12&mod2=ukmet&stn2=PNM&hh2=060&fixhh=1&stn2_type=prog&mode=latest&yyyy=latest&mm=latest&dd=latest&hh=072 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The euro holds on to the sharp southeast hook when it gets up here off SC/NC border. The only way I saw the nhc adjusting their track was if the euro flattened out like the Ukie, gfs, hwrf and gfdl but the euro held strong on the turn. Bet the nhc sticks to it at 5am and doesn't budge on track reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncskywarn Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Looks like more models then not now bring it up at least partially the North Carolina coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hope they are wrong... At this time the main threat still looks like the potential for significant rainfall across the area combined with minor coastal flooding...which could result in moderate inundation in some locations. A Flash Flood Watch continues across the area into Sunday. The heaviest rainfall is expected to fall Sat into Sunday morning...with storm total rainfall 6-12 inches, with locally higher amounts up to 15 inches possible. WPCs excessiverainfall outlook has ENC in a moderate to high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 30 minutes ago, ncskywarn said: Looks like more models then not now bring it up at least partially the North Carolina coast. Interesting me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Newest cone from the NHC has the NC southern coast and the mean line is closer to shore then previous tracks the past few days. May be something we need to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Regan said: Newest cone from the NHC has the NC southern coast and the mean line is closer to shore then previous tracks the past few days. May be something we need to watch. Please do not double post in both hurricane threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Moon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 From NHS Discussion: The satellite appearance of Matthew has become rather disheveled looking in infrared satellite imagery since the previous advisory. Land-based Doppler radar data indicate that Matthew has been going through an eyewall replacement cycle for the past 12 hours or so, but the inner eyewall has yet to dissipate within the 35-40 nmi wide outer eyewall. Both Doppler velocity data and recon SFMR surface winds and flight-level winds indicate that hurricane-force winds are and have been occuring within the outer eyewall just 5-10 nmi east of the Florida coastline. Although the central pressure has remained steady between 938-940 mb, the intensity has been lowered to 105 kt based on 700-mb flight-level winds of 118 kt and several patches of Doppler velocities of 120-122 kt between 5000-7500 feet.... Matthew is expected to slowly weaken some more during the next 12 hours or so while the cyclone completes the eyewall replacement cycle. By 24 hours and beyond, more significant weakening is expected due to the combination of strong southwesterly vertical shear increasing to more than 30 kt and entrainment of very dry mid-level air with humidity values less than 20 percent. The new intensity forecast closely follows the consensus model IVCN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackGrad05 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 My post got deleted in the other thread for some reason, but I said that I think the NHC is being conservative with the track. We will need to monitor the next models to see if any other northern shift occurs. Folks in eastern NC need to take this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tramadoc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 minute ago, PackGrad05 said: My post got deleted in the other thread for some reason, but I said that I think the NHC is being conservative with the track. We will need to monitor the next models to see if any other northern shift occurs. Folks in eastern NC need to take this seriously. If the latest rainfall totals for Northeast NC are anywhere close to being correct, it will take over a week for us to recover from flooding. With the flooding we had here three weeks ago with Hermine, it took nearly two weeks for the levels to dissipate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Cold Rain...get ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, tramadoc said: If the latest rainfall totals for Northeast NC are anywhere close to being correct, it will take over a week for us to recover from flooding. With the flooding we had here three weeks ago with Hermine, it took nearly two weeks for the levels to dissipate. Rain is already falling in NC. High amounts/flooding could end up being the biggest impacts of this storm in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metwannabe Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Rain is already falling in NC. High amounts/flooding could end up being the biggest impacts of this storm in the US. Usually the most under estimated impact from TC by general public but the deadliest. With rains already spreading in real concerned for ENC with thisSent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, PackGrad05 said: My post got deleted in the other thread for some reason, but I said that I think the NHC is being conservative with the track. We will need to monitor the next models to see if any other northern shift occurs. Folks in eastern NC need to take this seriously. Yeah. My thought too. Maybe they don't want to change it but so many times. Wral said this morning that they are inclined to think that it could move and it would likely be inland. She discussed how that would effect us with rain etc. showed a few graphics. These handmade cones on these stations are not very accurate depictions if one compares them to NHC. I mean, people are so visual and literal and may disregard danger if they see they are barely in it. You'd think they'd be careful and mimic the NHC as much as possible. ABC did a live Facebook and he said he expects that the NHC will maybe bridge the gap on the cone to reflect the models and he showed the spaghetti models as well. It may well be on to something. Really it does look like they are making baby steps on this update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tramadoc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 AKQ (NWS Wakefield) has put Northeast NC under a flash flood watch through Sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 WRAL Elizabeth Gardner 16 mins · If the track continues to shift northwest the rain will cause more widespread flooding here. The sandhills will be hit especially hard because of the flooding they saw last week. Remember - never drive your car into a flooded road. Be prepared to stay home Saturday evening through Sunday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 WRAL Elizabeth Gardner Just now · Futurecast shows center of Matthew very close to Wilmington at 5pm Saturday. In our area we're seeing very heavy rain bands and winds gusting 25mph in the north and up to 45 mph in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tramadoc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just now, Brick Tamland said: WRAL Elizabeth Gardner 16 mins · If the track continues to shift northwest the rain will cause more widespread flooding here. The sandhills will be hit especially hard because of the flooding they saw last week. Remember - never drive your car into a flooded road. Be prepared to stay home Saturday evening through Sunday morning. Allan responded to a tweet from someone a few miles from me in Currituck and said we could see up to 10" of rain locally. I'm interested to see what happens with the 11am advisory and if the track/cone is shifted more towards ILM/MHX/HAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjimmy73 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 raining here in danville since we got up at 530. glad to report family in melbourne, fl is safe, no power but safe. some of them are waiting to head back beachside and see if their home survived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 59 minutes ago, packbacker said: Cold Rain...get ready. Yeah man, ready here. I don't expect 50 mph winds here unless the track comes inland more. But a gust or two to 40 wouldn't surprise me. Hoping for at least 5" of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Even the Euro is only 75 miles south of ILM now and every other model is closer or even over ILM, while most of those tracks would result in a weaker storm it would likely verify hurricane gust along the entire NC coast up to Cape Lookout and the GFDL and GFS track might even get the northern OBX....again the models still pop a big high over TX and thats what shoves the trough north and Matt SE....like this If that feature isnt as strong or the trough hangs on longer or slower or deeper etc then Matt will get more north and thats still 2 days away and a 100 mile shift in track isnt uncommon in the 40 hr range in this setup especially....I bet the NHC pushes the hurricane warning to Cape Fear and a tropical storm warning to Cape Lookout no later than 5pm today....if the models keep the current track.....the current water vapor map looks Matt might speed up some here soon and head more north...if he can stay well off the GA coast that will be great for them but it will allow the storm to rebuild and organize its core better and probably be bad news for SC. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metwannabe Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Cold Rain said: Yeah man, ready here. I don't expect 50 mph winds here unless the track comes inland more. But a gust or two to 40 wouldn't surprise me. Hoping for at least 5" of rain. The GFDL, HWRF and GFS to some extent show the wind field expanding some as it moves closer to NC, especially the 850 winds, so about 1000-1500' above your head the winds could be screaming.... so I guess a good gust or two not out of the question. I've had so much rain the last two weeks, ground saturated a gust or two to 40 mph would still probably bring down a tree or two. Gonna be fun to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 HWRF looks unpleasant during State/ND game tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 ^ Mostly cloudy and breezy with a chance of sprinkles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, metwannabe said: The GFDL, HWRF and GFS to some extent show the wind field expanding some as it moves closer to NC, especially the 850 winds, so about 1000-1500' above your head the winds could be screaming.... so I guess a good gust or two not out of the question. I've had so much rain the last two weeks, ground saturated a gust or two to 40 mph would still probably bring down a tree or two. Gonna be fun to watch! Yeah, if the trough can tug it north a bit more, we'll probably see more appreciable wind. Either way, like you said, it won't take much wind to down trees in a lot of areas, given the soil conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguars Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Remarkable to watch an eye move right up the coast like it's glued to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, packbacker said: HWRF looks unpleasant during State/ND game tomorrow. State, UNC, and Duke all play at home tomorrow. Going to be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metwannabe Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Cold Rain said: Yeah, if the trough can tug it north a bit more, we'll probably see more appreciable wind. Either way, like you said, it won't take much wind to down trees in a lot of areas, given the soil conditions. Gotta feel for Harnett and Cumberland counties that as of now look to be in the bulls eye for excessive rainfall totals, already talk by NWS of weakened dams/levees from last weeks floods.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Cold Rain said: ^ Mostly cloudy and breezy with a chance of sprinkles. Looks like you're nailing my forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop50 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, metwannabe said: Gotta feel for Harnett and Cumberland counties that as of now look to be in the bulls eye for excessive rainfall totals, already talk by NWS of weakened dams/levees from last weeks floods.... I am in northern Cumberland county and that is my concern. We received over 9" in just 12 hours a week ago, several inches more rain this weekend is going to be a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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