NJwx85 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Some of the local TV and radio mets did a poor job letting people know about the potential We knew this was going to get close enough to cause problems as early as last weekend and you still had TV mets calling for a beautiful weekend as late as Wednesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, uncle W said: 1894 had two storms that crossed Florida, lost strength and regained it off the Jersey coast... Great find uncle, thanks for the graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just now, NJwx85 said: Some of the local TV and radio mets did a poor job letting people know about the potential We knew this was going to get close enough to cause problems as early as last weekend and you still had TV mets calling for a beautiful weekend as late as Wednesday night. they will be playing catch up tonight and tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Upton * SURGE:PREPARE FOR UP TO 2 TO 4 FEET OF INUNDATION HAVING POSSIBLE EXTENSIVEIMPACTS ACROSS COASTAL LOCATIONS OF LONG ISLAND...NEW YORK CITY...CONNECTICUT...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...AND TIDAL PORTIONS OF NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY.POTENTIAL IMPACTS IN THIS AREA INCLUDE:- LARGE SECTIONS OF NEAR-SHORE ESCAPE ROUTES AND SECONDARY ROADSWASHED OUT OR SEVERELY FLOODED. FLOOD CONTROL SYSTEMS ANDBARRIERS WILL BECOME STRESSED AND LIKELY OVERWHELMED.- SEVERE BEACH EROSION WITH SIGNIFICANT DUNE LOSS.- MAJOR DAMAGE TO MARINAS, DOCKS, BOARDWALKS, AND PIERS. MANYSMALL CRAFT BROKEN AWAY FROM MOORINGS, ESPECIALLY INUNPROTECTED ANCHORAGES WITH SOME LIFTED ONSHORE AND STRANDED.- ALONG THE OCEANFRONT...AREAS OF DEEP INUNDATION FROM STORM SURGEAND BATTERING WAVES. STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO BUILDINGS,WITH SEVERAL WASHING AWAY. DAMAGE COMPOUNDED BY FLOATINGDEBRIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I am quite certain that there will be extreme flooding along the NJ coast during this event simply due to the ong duration. What will NOT occur is the extreme damage we saw with Sandy (numerous homes ripped away and barrier islands split. The initial surge will not be as impactful as Sandy. More of a gradual pilling up of water IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Upton * SURGE:PREPARE FOR UP TO 2 TO 4 FEET OF INUNDATION HAVING POSSIBLE EXTENSIVEIMPACTS ACROSS COASTAL LOCATIONS OF LONG ISLAND...NEW YORK CITY...CONNECTICUT...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...AND TIDAL PORTIONS OF NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY.POTENTIAL IMPACTS IN THIS AREA INCLUDE:- LARGE SECTIONS OF NEAR-SHORE ESCAPE ROUTES AND SECONDARY ROADSWASHED OUT OR SEVERELY FLOODED. FLOOD CONTROL SYSTEMS ANDBARRIERS WILL BECOME STRESSED AND LIKELY OVERWHELMED.- SEVERE BEACH EROSION WITH SIGNIFICANT DUNE LOSS.- MAJOR DAMAGE TO MARINAS, DOCKS, BOARDWALKS, AND PIERS. MANYSMALL CRAFT BROKEN AWAY FROM MOORINGS, ESPECIALLY INUNPROTECTED ANCHORAGES WITH SOME LIFTED ONSHORE AND STRANDED.- ALONG THE OCEANFRONT...AREAS OF DEEP INUNDATION FROM STORM SURGEAND BATTERING WAVES. STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO BUILDINGS,WITH SEVERAL WASHING AWAY. DAMAGE COMPOUNDED BY FLOATINGDEBRIS. WOW that is some strong wording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, hazwoper said: I am quite certain that there will be extreme flooding along the NJ coast during this event simply due to the ong duration. What will NOT occur is the extreme damage we saw with Sandy (numerous homes ripped away and barrier islands split. The initial surge will not be as impactful as Sandy. More of a gradual pilling up of water IMO Not saying your wrong in this thinking but if we get a loop like we have on the euro, the forward motion of a strengthening storm would pull in a good surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I wonder if the NHC saw the Euro before issuing their 2 pm advisory, where they appear to have not changed the forecast track (or at least very little). I can see ignoring plenty of models, but not the Euro, given how great its been with Sandy, Joaquin and others. Surprised DT hasn't gone bonkers yet, as he's a huge Euro guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just now, RU848789 said: I wonder if the NHC saw the Euro before issuing their 2 pm advisory, where they appear to have not changed the forecast track (or at least very little). I can see ignoring plenty of models, but not the Euro, given how great its been with Sandy, Joaquin and others. Surprised DT hasn't gone bonkers yet, as he's a huge Euro guy. It was an intermediate advisory so they typically don't make changes unless something major occurs. I bet they pull the trigger on TS warnings at 5PM and I could even see Hurricane Watches being posted for the SNJ coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Looking south past Long Island, I believe I'm looking at the northern extent of Hermine's cirrus deck. Looks pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 What were rain amounts with the euro track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, doncat said: What were rain amounts with the euro track? ACY: 5.75" BDR: 0.73" BLM: 2.70" HPN: 0.62" ISP: 1.31" NYC: 0.81" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 It's hard to go against the Euro after nailing similar storms. Joaquin was an amazing forecast from this model. Euro does very well in blocking patterns, but there's still time to nail specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, hazwoper said: I am quite certain that there will be extreme flooding along the NJ coast during this event simply due to the ong duration. What will NOT occur is the extreme damage we saw with Sandy (numerous homes ripped away and barrier islands split. The initial surge will not be as impactful as Sandy. More of a gradual pilling up of water IMO NWS disagrees ALONG THE OCEANFRONT...AREAS OF DEEP INUNDATION FROM STORM SURGEAND BATTERING WAVES. STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO BUILDINGS,WITH SEVERAL WASHING AWAY. DAMAGE COMPOUNDED BY FLOATINGDEBRIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rjay Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, RU848789 said: I wonder if the NHC saw the Euro before issuing their 2 pm advisory, where they appear to have not changed the forecast track (or at least very little). I can see ignoring plenty of models, but not the Euro, given how great its been with Sandy, Joaquin and others. Surprised DT hasn't gone bonkers yet, as he's a huge Euro guy. They will update their track at 5pm. They usually won't do it for an intermediate advisory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 ****. Those of us on the island know how vulnerable all of our favorite summer spots are to these types of events. Really unfortunate and sad. Not celebrating this one. After spending a week in the Hamptons and Montauk, i will be sad to see those beaches torn to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, psv88 said: ****. Those of us on the island know how vulnerable all of our favorite summer spots are to these types of events. Really unfortunate and sad. Not celebrating this one. After spending a week in the Hamptons and Montauk, i will be sad to see those beaches torn to shreds. I said the other day that it would be a shame if our beaches were destroyed, the rest of our coastline was damaged and the drought stricken areas didn't even get a good soaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Pretty much all are east of the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 21 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Great find uncle, thanks for the graphic. 1894 storms... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1894-10-01/ed-1/seq-1/ http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/50595434 11 days later... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1894-10-11/ed-1/seq-1/ http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/50596047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mophstymeo01 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 ****. Those of us on the island know how vulnerable all of our favorite summer spots are to these types of events. Really unfortunate and sad. Not celebrating this one. After spending a week in the Hamptons and Montauk, i will be sad to see those beaches torn to shreds.I just went out to Montauk last week with my two oldest kids to see the light house and spend time at the beach. It was the first time in 30 years since I was there. I agree with you wholeheartedly.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Rjay said: I said the other day that it would be a shame if our beaches were destroyed, the rest of our coastline was damaged and the drought stricken areas didn't even get a good soaking A damn shame. This is why tropical threats don't excite me. They simply destroy beaches, which is half the reason i continue to live on this overcrowded, overpriced strip of land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, psv88 said: A damn shame. This is why tropical threats don't excite me. They simply destroy beaches, which is half the reason i continue to live on this overcrowded, overpriced strip of land. Agree, but it's nature. Natural disasters have hit beaches forever. The issue is we continue to build in areas that have no business having development on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just now, psv88 said: A damn shame. This is why tropical threats don't excite me. They simply destroy beaches, which is half the reason i continue to live on this overcrowded, overpriced strip of land. Usually they speed up and weaken at this latitude so we get the beneficial rains (sometimes too much like with floyd) but don't have to worry about the winds and damage. This time its the opposite. Nothing beneficial about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, psv88 said: ****. Those of us on the island know how vulnerable all of our favorite summer spots are to these types of events. Really unfortunate and sad. Not celebrating this one. After spending a week in the Hamptons and Montauk, i will be sad to see those beaches torn to shreds. Yeah pretty much. I was more optimistic yesterday but that Euro run put a big pit in my stomach. Places that usually flood in these events are in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Last night/early morning Euro run: was Hermine still in the gulf or did it make landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'd give up snow for all next Winter to get that slug 150 miles further NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstar3182 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 tears in my eyes thinking about going through this again. weather related ptsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Agree, but it's nature. Natural disasters have hit beaches forever. The issue is we continue to build in areas that have no business having development on them. True. To be fair, most of the LI barrier beaches are state, county, or national parks with little to no development. Luckily the north shore has enough elevation that only the marinas and immediate shoreline locations will be impacted. I will be taking a drive down to Halesite in Huntington Monday morning, area usually floods in these setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 hours ago, NJwx85 said: I'd give up snow for all next Winter to get that slug 150 miles further NW Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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