Fall+Banter

[dryslot]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

QPF

Mike still searching for the ever elusive QPF

[powderfreak]

5 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Some of these wounds were very deep

lol we numb at this point when it comes to the big high-impact east coast storms.  

The juju will be back.  Been an epic run for the coastal plain (Mid-Atlantic through Maine) when it comes to big ticket events since 2013.  

[OceanStWx]

13 hours ago, eekuasepinniW said:

Will plan for more time in Lahaina and less on Kauai/Waikiki on future trips.

At least it was sunny for Kualoa ranch... almost too much scenery to handle.

Our next visit is going to be either Kauai or the Big Island (and our usual stop on Molokai). I'm leaning active lava.

I'm glad we'll get to see another part of Polynesia this spring. See how it compares.

[OceanStWx]

2 hours ago, dendrite said:

It won't be long before we get down to 1km spacing. It's crazy how far we've come in so little time. The LFM seems like medieval times. 

It does make the older school maps of vort maxes and omega relatively obsolete though. Noisy as hell.

[CoastalWx]

1 hour ago, masonwoods said:

Question for Mets.

 

I've been reading Dr. Cohen's weekly blog on AO and Polar Vortex Analysis and Forecasts and started to follow him on Twitter.  Am I wasting my time or is this value added?

It's an interesting theory and I don't see anything wrong reading up and following him.  He's had some good posts, and then other posts where I want to rip my hair out...lol. If you find it interesting go ahead. It's not a waste at all. 

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, OceanStWx said:

It does make the older school maps of vort maxes and omega relatively obsolete though. Noisy as hell.

Yes. That annoys me. Such good tools rendered virtually unusable. Let the dumbing down of science continue with hi res sim radar. 

[codfishsnowman]

25 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

this is how I cope, lifetime achievement. nothing will ever bother me again. Satiation

Climatological Data for NORTH FOSTER 1 E, RI - February 2015
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Date	Max Temperature	Min Temperature	Avg Temperature	Avg Temperature Departure	HDD	CDD	Precipitation	Snowfall	Snow Depth
Sum	719	143	-	-	1383	0	3.43	52.2	-
Average	25.7	5.1	15.4	-13.2	-	-	-	-	30.1
Normal	37.5	19.8	28.6	-	1018	0	3.96	12.4	-
2015-02-01	30	6	18.0	-8.3	47	0	0.00	0.0	17
2015-02-02	21	9	15.0	-11.4	50	0	1.05	10.1	25
2015-02-03	19	2	10.5	-16.0	54	0	0.00	0.0	24
2015-02-04	37	9	23.0	-3.7	42	0	0.00	0.0	23
2015-02-05	35	7	21.0	-5.8	44	0	0.10	4.1	24
2015-02-06	20	-5	7.5	-19.5	57	0	0.00	0.0	23
2015-02-07	27	8	17.5	-9.7	47	0	0.02	0.3	23
2015-02-08	29	13	21.0	-6.3	44	0	0.32	3.2	25
2015-02-09	17	13	15.0	-12.5	50	0	0.51	11.6	33
2015-02-10	32	14	23.0	-4.7	42	0	0.05	1.0	31
2015-02-11	25	9	17.0	-10.9	48	0	T	T	31
2015-02-12	31	8	19.5	-8.5	45	0	0.02	0.4	30
2015-02-13	19	-1	9.0	-19.2	56	0	0.00	0.0	30
2015-02-14	26	-6	10.0	-18.4	55	0	0.30	4.9	34
2015-02-15	18	-4	7.0	-21.6	58	0	0.27	6.6	37
2015-02-16	16	-7	4.5	-24.3	60	0	0.00	0.0	35
2015-02-17	22	7	14.5	-14.5	50	0	0.07	3.9	38
2015-02-18	29	11	20.0	-9.2	45	0	0.04	0.8	35
2015-02-19	24	6	15.0	-14.4	50	0	0.01	0.3	34
2015-02-20	16	-1	7.5	-22.2	57	0	0.00	0.0	33
2015-02-21	32	-5	13.5	-16.4	51	0	0.27	2.4	34
2015-02-22	37	28	32.5	2.4	32	0	0.34	1.2	33
2015-02-23	29	0	14.5	-15.8	50	0	0.00	0.0	32
2015-02-24	19	-10	4.5	-26.1	60	0	T	T	32
2015-02-25	33	9	21.0	-9.8	44	0	0.04	0.9	32
2015-02-26	22	14	18.0	-13.0	47	0	0.02	0.5	32
2015-02-27	26	6	16.0	-15.3	49	0	0.00	0.0	32
2015-02-28	28	3	15.5	-16.0	49	0	0.00	0.0	31

 

0.07 and 3.9 snow???

[OceanStWx]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

Yes. That annoys me. Such good tools rendered virtually unusable. Let the dumbing down of science continue with hi res sim radar. 

That's my problem. I've lost a valuable tool to QC where the model is spitting out QPF or simulate radar returns. In a sense it's nice that I can still get the Euro and GFS at 90 km resolution if I want to in AWIPS so I can overlay larger scale lifting processes. 

I mean look at the Euro NYC bust that's being dredged up again in the December thread. I can remember talking at the time that the Euro forcing was east of the heaviest QPF. It was a flag for sure. I almost literally can't do that with the NAM anymore. I think they might still offer us an 80 km version, but that will probably be dumped soon for bandwidth issues.

[dendrite]

4 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said:

0.07 and 3.9 snow???

I think the liquid is a little on the light side there...probably some undercatch with collecting the snow directly in the can versus taking cylindrical cores.

[codfishsnowman]

15 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Man I hope the Euro comes out in a half hour with something to comment on....cuz this two year old blizzard BS and who got what and who didn't just sucks.

you have had a mighty fine run there in central ct, i would've stolen some of your snow if I could have from some of those events

[eekuasepinniW]

5 hours ago, Dan said:

Did you do one of the horseback tours at Kualoa Ranch?   My wife and I did the 2 hour tour and loved it.  Would probably do it again the next time we are there.

No, horses fill me with fear and dread.  I did three of their other excursions into the jungle, to movie sites, overlooks, etc.

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said:

Meh, most snow weenies in here would delete their account if they got NYC winter snowfall...different expectations.

 

At any rate, nothing very intriguing so far on the 12z suite. The cutter is still there for late next week on GFS but the GGEM is kind of intriguing in that it ejects the southwest s/w far enough ahead of the western trough to try and bring a storm up the coast...it kind of fizzles though. It looks kind of bizarre anyway, so I probably wouldn't read much into it.

I said "relative to climo"...

[Ginx snewx]

1 hour ago, codfishsnowman said:

0.07 and 3.9 snow???

I remember that night so very well and posted pictures here. It was like living in a cotton fairy tale  world, the fluff was magical, you could literally blow the snow off the deck, when you stepped the wind you made cleared a path. That coop equiv was probably under measured but 30-1 was probably right, most amazing night as it snowed under clear sky and then we had diamond dust. Certainly my favorite winter night of all time, capped off my all time record depth at 40 inches that night. I relive that night often when I need to relax, it had that much an impact on me. I sat outside on the snow for almost 3 hours with a full 32 oz Coffee mug just staring and taking it all in. I know this is sappy but I understood at that moment how at peace i was with the world and what ever came after was OK.

[OceanStWx]

3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

I remember that night so very well and posted pictures here. It was like living in a cotton fairy tale  world, the fluff was magical, you could literally blow the snow off the deck, when you stepped the wind you made cleared a path. That coop equiv was probably under measured but 30-1 was probably right, most amazing night as it snowed under clear sky and then we had diamond dust. Certainly my favorite winter night of all time, capped off my all time record depth at 40 inches that night. I relive that night often when I need to relax, it had that much an impact on me. I sat outside on the snow for almost 3 hours with a full 32 oz Coffee mug just staring and taking it all in. I know this is sappy but I understood at that moment how at peace i was with the world and what ever came after was OK.

21 bun salute.

[OceanStWx]

2 days later GYX did pull off 6.9" with 0.24" liquid. A solid 29:1. 

[CoastalWx]

7 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

21 bun salute.

I wonder if he had to change his Fruit of the Looms after that post?

[Typhoon Tip]

I've seen clear-air/sky snow fall on a couple different occasions. Usually it's like ... very light, very fragile clustered dendrites (Brians) falling in slow motion due to their remarkable light weight egos...

Both times this happened were identical circumstances tho.  A synoptic event had taken place, and then the sky abruptly cleared in the evening/night, while the ground temp and DP were very close to one another while both being below freezing. I think what's going on is that the clear skies radiates the top of the low level moist column which lowers the temperature enough to get a razor thin layer into snow growth, while not dense enough to milk the sky.  i think it's probably no different than 'moon dimly visible' while snowing at night, only the moon/sky coverage is just too thin to be discerned and even the stars twinkle through. 

[Ginx snewx]

22 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

21 bun salute.

total cotton 

[Ginx snewx]

15 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I wonder if he had to change his Fruit of the Looms after that post?

I borrowed your power ranger ones off your line.

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

I borrowed your power ranger ones off your line.

I don't remember that event. I must have still been snow drunk from the storm prior. But indeed, the Hingham guy haf 4" at .09 liquid.

[ORH_wxman]

5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I've seen clear-air/sky snow fall on a couple different occasions. Usually it's like ... very light, very fragile clustered dendrites (Brians) falling in slow motion due to their remarkable light weight egos...

Both times this happened were identical circumstances tho.  A synoptic event had taken place, and then the sky abruptly cleared in the evening/night, while the ground temp and DP were very close to one another while both being below freezing. I think what's going on is that the clear skies radiates the top of the low level moist column which lowers the temperature enough to get a razor thin layer into snow growth, while not dense enough to milk the sky.

 

While not completely clear skies, I remember the end of the 2/2/15 event late that night was a very thin cloud deck but we were still getting solid 2 mile vis fluffy hooked dendrites falling. Prob 30 to 1 or 40 to 1 stuff. You could easily see the moon...almost just looked hazy rather than a faint disc. It was prob showing up as like 8 or 10dbz on clear air mode on the radar...definitely pretty low level, but the airmass was so cold by that point that 2000-3000 feet up was comfortably within the dendritic growth zone.

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

I don't remember that event. I must have still been snow drunk from the storm prior. But indeed, the Hingham guy haf 4" at .09 liquid.

I just read that thread, you had like 25 posts. Total surprise event, advisories were way north

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

I just read that thread, you had like 25 posts. Total surprise event, advisories were way north

I remember it after that radar image....lol. What a sicko to only remember based on radar. Honestly that 30 day stretch is like a blur at times because I was on cloud 9.

[CoastalWx]

It had a weenie OES/CF push at the end in the evening. God...to live through that again.

[Typhoon Tip]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

 

While not completely clear skies, I remember the end of the 2/2/15 event late that night was a very thin cloud deck but we were still getting solid 2 mile vis fluffy hooked dendrites falling. Prob 30 to 1 or 40 to 1 stuff. You could easily see the moon...almost just looked hazy rather than a faint disc.

yeah... zactly .. 

in fact, one of the times i had in mind, the very light flurry activity took place after there was no snow falling and there was just cloudy skies after the synoptic snow. ... then the clouds parted, and then the shattering sparkles commenced after the clouds were gone rendering the sky entirely clear.  that's why think it had to do with radiative column-top cooling causing growth to take place.

 

[Ginx snewx]

Jan 1994 was my first real diamond dust experience, I remember Brian had a good one last year. during 2/17/15 first we had ultra large dendrites then it stopped for a couple of minutes, the temps dropped significantly, I was almost ready to go in and then the dust appeared under perfectly clear skies and a nearly new moon, good stuff.

[ORH_wxman]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

It had a weenie OES/CF push at the end in the evening. God...to live through that again.

 

Between Jan 24th and Feb 26th that year, ORH only had 6 days without a trace or more of snow. 19 of those 34 days had measurable snow. The only period during that entire stretch above freezing was 4pm on Feb 4th through 5am on Feb 5th when the temp hovered mostly at 33F with light snow and briefly hit 34F a few times.

[Allsnow]

New euro seems to be having a rough time with this Monday system. Bring back the old euro please 

[Ginx snewx]

2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

 

Between Jan 24th and Feb 26th that year, ORH only had 6 days without a trace or more of snow. 19 of those 34 days had measurable snow. The only period during that entire stretch above freezing was 4pm on Feb 4th through 5am on Feb 5th when the temp hovered mostly at 33F with light snow and briefly hit 34F a few times.

What weenie kid dreams are made of. Pretty much as I drew up as a 10 year old in my bedroom. to live it, well enough said.

[CoastalWx]

6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

 

Between Jan 24th and Feb 26th that year, ORH only had 6 days without a trace or more of snow. 19 of those 34 days had measurable snow. The only period during that entire stretch above freezing was 4pm on Feb 4th through 5am on Feb 5th when the temp hovered mostly at 33F with light snow and briefly hit 34F a few times.

Incredible. I'm glad to say that I finally lived through a scroll-like winter. Snow up to thy privates.