powderfreak Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Local offices issue those, but much of the wording is pre-canned statements. I mean it makes sense for places in the SE, that aren't used to windy, rainy days. It's a hazard of impact based products, because impacts aren't the same everywhere in the country. Just wait until we're doing impact statements in winter products. Ha winter impact statements... freezing rain advisory for 2 hours of --ZR before rain with wording akin to "do not leave your house until the threat has passed." Some of those messages really are overkill...but then again if even one person is killed in a traffic fatality due to a light glaze, then the doom and gloom message is likely justified even if for 90% of the people it's not warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I realize that, but the quoted post doesn't have the name of the poster on it. On the old site if you quoted a persons post, there username would be on it. But not here(at least not on my device/computer. Is there an adjustment to allow that? Or is the quote only there without the username?? It's a glitch right now. It only happened within the past day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Ha winter impact statements... freezing rain advisory for 2 hours of --ZR before rain with wording akin to "do not leave your house until the threat has passed." Some of those messages really are overkill...but then again if even one person is killed in a traffic fatality due to a light glaze, then the doom and gloom message is likely justified even if for 90% of the people it's not warranted. I mean the ultimate goal is to try and save lives and property, but you really dull the message if you're always telling people to take cover when the wind hits 35 mph, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's a glitch right now. It only happened within the past day. I can't edit a post now...I get this and nothing can be edited... Required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sometimes a little common sense can do amazing things. Things like...not driving 70mph on a glazed service. You can put out all the impact statements you want...but people are gonna do what they want unfortunately. You always see the post mortem on traffic nightmare events and people ask..."How could this happen!" Well, S+ arriving during rush hour will do it. We can only do so much. People have places to go, that's the bottom line. We just need to communicate the correct forecast, timing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sometimes a little common sense can do amazing things. Things like...not driving 70mph on a glazed service. You can put out all the impact statements you want...but people are gonna do what they want unfortunately. You always see the post mortem on traffic nightmare events and people ask..."How could this happen!" Well, S+ arriving during rush hour will do it. We can only do so much. People have places to go, that's the bottom line. We just need to communicate the correct forecast, timing etc. Yeah, if the road looks wet and the car in front of you isn't kicking up spray, you should probably slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I can't edit a post now...I get this and nothing can be edited... Required It's all related. An update must have been installed that is causing all this. We are well aware that a bunch of things are wrong and it's been sent along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sometimes a little common sense can do amazing things. Things like...not driving 70mph on a glazed service. You can put out all the impact statements you want...but people are gonna do what they want unfortunately. You always see the post mortem on traffic nightmare events and people ask..."How could this happen!" Well, S+ arriving during rush hour will do it. We can only do so much. People have places to go, that's the bottom line. We just need to communicate the correct forecast, timing etc. Yeah, if the road looks wet and the car in front of you isn't kicking up spray, you should probably slow down. I'm an American damn it! That means I get to drive where I want, when I want and at whatever speed I want! If I have an accident then the weatherman obviously was wrong again and/or the road crews weren't doing their jobs! And don't even get me started on snow tires and such, they look too clunky on my car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's all related. An update must have been installed that is causing all this. We are well aware that a bunch of things are wrong and it's been sent along. thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Yeah, if the road looks wet and the car in front of you isn't kicking up spray, you should probably slow down. The social science is always fascinating. I agree that sometimes we need to put out wording other than start, stop, and how much...but there are times where I feel we go overboard with wording things like impacts, what to do etc. I don't mean NWS...I mean as a community. It's tough to find the sweet spot between leveraging saving lives and money, but also not going handlebars on something that may really not be a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I'm an American damn it! That means I get to drive where I want, when I want and at whatever speed I want! If I have an accident then the weatherman obviously was wrong again and/or the road crews weren't doing their jobs! And don't even get me started on snow tires and such, they look too clunky on my car! When you slide under an 18 wheeler....just yell "Murica" as you slip under the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 When you slide under an 18 wheeler....just yell "Murica" as you slip under the axle. You sound like a commie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The social science is always fascinating. I agree that sometimes we need to put out wording other than start, stop, and how much...but there are times where I feel we go overboard with wording things like impacts, what to do etc. I don't mean NWS...I mean as a community. It's tough to find the sweet spot between leveraging saving lives and money, but also not going handlebars on something that may really not be a big deal. I know plenty of people who still crap on the social science, but most meteorologists aren't people persons and we have a generally poor understanding of how they react to our messaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I know plenty of people who still crap on the social science, but most meteorologists aren't people persons and we have a generally poor understanding of how they react to our messaging. I imagine a lot of it was similar to this with Hermine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I imagine a lot of it was similar to this with Hermine... There is truth to that. That's how you get Christie mouthing off about mets being able to keep their jobs when they're wrong versus a governor. A poorly crafted message is just as bad as a busted forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I know plenty of people who still crap on the social science, but most meteorologists aren't people persons and we have a generally poor understanding of how they react to our messaging. I know we deal with those issues with airlines. I always try to convey a clear message of my forecast, how it could go wrong, and confidence. But it's amazing how they interpret what I'm saying. You can't assume anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 millions of 'types' of mentalities on the road ... but, the lowest common denominator features two more basic approaches to driving: -- need to have bad accident before learning -- don't need to have bad accident before learning unfortunately, the former tends to forcibly include the latter into snarls the law is charged with the responsibility of protecting everyone, unilaterally ... dispassionately, without prejudice; unfortunately, on a purer philosophical level, only one above deserves that protection. as far as greasy glaze on the roads, it too does not discriminate between those that are smart enough to visualize calamity, and those who are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 question, is this social media now one that is paying Moderation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 question, is this social media now one that is paying Moderation? I have no clue what this even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I have no clue what this even means. do you get paid for this - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's a glitch right now. It only happened within the past day. OK thank you. I thought I disabled something on my end, cuz I could have sworn a few days ago I was seeing the posters name with the quote. Thanks again for the response. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: do you get paid for this - Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Nope. hmm. i got offered to on-line interview for a Moderator gig - they were throwing numbers out like 50,000 k/year. yeah...obviously that sounds fishy, BUT, ... it was for the fashion industry. umm, yeah - me? that's pretty damn funny actually if you know the source material. wow. anyway, just curious how pervasive that is - interesting. as an after thought, let me ask you this? why not - i mean, someone has succeeded in turning this into a 'for profit' venture. are they getting moderator services for free then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: hmm. i got offered to on-line interview to Moderate for like 50,000k a year. yeah...obviously that sounds fishy, BUT, ... it was for the fashion industry. umm, yeah - me? that's pretty damn funny actually if you know the source material. wow. anyway, just curious how pervasive that is - interesting. as an after thought, let me ask you this? why not - i mean, someone has succeeded in turning this into a 'for profit' venture. are they getting moderator services for free then ? This place doesn't make that much money. We've got a nice core of weenies and a few extras come in during big winter storms and the like, but really there's only enough coming in to keep the site running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: This place doesn't make that much money. We've got a nice core of weenies and a few extras come in during big winter storms and the like, but really there's only enough coming in to keep the site running. yeah, i dunno - makes me wonder. i guess the fashion industry et al is more pervasive but heh ... i try to look decent in public, but that's about it. ahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: yeah, i dunno - makes me wonder. i guess the fashion industry et al is more pervasive but heh ... i try to look decent in public, but that's about it. ahaha Tip the "Fashionista!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Tip the "Fashionista!" it just occurred to me ... i thought this was the banter thread. sorry. Zoolander rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sometimes the message is conveyed well, people take proper steps, and shyte still happens. Case in point, our friend's daughter and son who were killed and severely injured in an icing related car crash in Feb. NWS and local mets did well with forecasts...schools were delayed and cancelled. Highway crews did their job... ...and still Mother Nature found 1 small spot on a hilly road that provided enough lack of grip that causes a small car to spin out of control (state police estimated car was travelling 35mph in a 45 mph zone) and slam into a tree at just the right angle to do the deed. Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 79/72. Swampy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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