Baroclinic Zone Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, CoastalWx said: You care. Don't try to be all high and mighty. You really don't know me than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: You really don't know me than. I know you well....very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 28F here for the second freeze of the season. This one though was like 8 hours of freezing temps so pretty much anything that survived the first freeze, didn't this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I'm ok with that as I have stated numerous times. I'm not a high-fiver nor do I care enough about snow. You cared a few years ago when you had snow on the ground in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Yeah.. enjoy the freezes .. I'll take colder daytime highs and snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Frost/freeze overrated. Only 32 matters in winter. TAN and OWD won't be high fiving in winter when ORH is S+ and they are raining. Except that in order for ORH to get to 32° more often than not, places like TAN & OWD need to hit 32 first - usually by radiational cooling earlier on in the season. To me that's reason enough to make note of it because it means a step in the right direction. Let's just not get into the whole "fake" cold vs. "real" cold debate that some like to bring up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, MetHerb said: Except that in order for ORH to get to 32° more often than not, places like TAN & OWD need to hit 32 first - usually by radiational cooling earlier on in the season. To me that's reason enough to make note of it because it means a step in the right direction. Let's just not get into the whole "fake" cold vs. "real" cold debate that some like to bring up. I prefer to judge airmasses based on low level thicknesses though. A 100-500ft mega inversion doesn't entirely do it for me. If a chickadee fart has the ability to mix you from 0F back up to 15F it's a little meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, dendrite said: I prefer to judge airmasses based on low level thicknesses though. A 100-500ft mega inversion doesn't entirely do it for me. If a chickadee fart has the ability to mix you from 0F back up to 15F it's a little meh. Give me 2/14/16 cold...that's cold I can get impressed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, dendrite said: I prefer to judge airmasses based on low level thicknesses though. A 100-500ft mega inversion doesn't entirely do it for me. If a chickadee fart has the ability to mix you from 0F back up to 15F it's a little meh. An air mass is different than a simple temperature reading. I don't think anyone would disagree about the "depth" of an air mass (hot or cold) based on readings that can change but a reading is a reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Give me 2/14/16 cold...that's cold I can get impressed with. I agree...I'm just not going to ignore or call a -50° reading in Maine "fake" or not impressive because it didn't come with wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, MetHerb said: I agree...I'm just not going to ignore or call a -50° reading in Maine "fake" or not impressive because it didn't come with wind. It's almost impossible to get -50 without a real airmass anyway. The one's I typically call "fake cold" are those mornings where a hilltop may be 27F and a swamp nearby is sitting at 5F...then two hours later the swamp is 33F and the hilltop is 30F. The temp itself isn't fake, but it's literally a product of the lowest 20-40 feet of the atmosphere completely decoupling. It's taking shallow layer cold to another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, MetHerb said: Except that in order for ORH to get to 32° more often than not, places like TAN & OWD need to hit 32 first - usually by radiational cooling earlier on in the season. To me that's reason enough to make note of it because it means a step in the right direction. Let's just not get into the whole "fake" cold vs. "real" cold debate that some like to bring up. That's not really what I was getting at. Lavarock was disappointed because his hilltop was not at 32 compared to low elevations and areas in SNE that were below 32. He will quickly forget that when his location is getting S+ and the aforementioned areas are rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It's almost impossible to get -50 without a real airmass anyway. The one's I typically call "fake cold" are those mornings where a hilltop may be 27F and a swamp nearby is sitting at 5F...then two hours later the swamp is 33F and the hilltop is 30F. The temp itself isn't fake, but it's literally a product of the lowest 20-40 feet of the atmosphere completely decoupling. It's taking shallow layer cold to another level. I just prefer to be able to go to any elevation possible to get what I want to experience haha. This morning left the house at 28F, hit the office at 35F, then hiked to the summit with the dog where it was 45F. Pretty crazy last night up high though...was 30F with rimed trees and then rose into the 40s in about 35 minutes just after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah.. enjoy the freezes .. I'll take colder daytime highs and snow Or you could be like Union to your NE and enjoy both. There are a lot of spots in New England in the 750-1500ft range that enjoy the best of both worlds. Of course there's *always* someone at a higher elevation in NNE but I think in a perfect world you'd get 1000-1200ft with strong radiative properties. I'm always envious of those spots here in town...like elevated hollows on the east slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: That's not really what I was getting at. Lavarock was disappointed because his hilltop was not at 32 compared to low elevations and areas in SNE that were below 32. He will quickly forget that when his location is getting S+ and the aforementioned areas are rain. It doesn't snow here anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, MaineJayhawk said: It doesn't snow here anymore Lava Rock is giving MPM a run for his money with depressing posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, MetHerb said: An air mass is different than a simple temperature reading. I don't think anyone would disagree about the "depth" of an air mass (hot or cold) based on readings that can change but a reading is a reading. True. The battery in my pickup doesn't care that it's 15F less cold 200 feet above. It's almost impossible to get -50 without a real airmass anyway. That -50 was accompanied by numerous locations in the -40s throughout N.Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: It doesn't snow here anymore Move to Weymouth, MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: It doesn't snow here anymore or Moosup Ct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: Move to Weymouth, MA. It doesn't rain there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: or Moosup Ct. Oh! Well, now we're talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, MaineJayhawk said: Oh! Well, now we're talking! This winter I am going to do a photo collage of all the different types of Cirrus and precipitation free, gray cloud decks we see in WNE. Maybe you and Powderfreak can contribute and I'll expand it to NNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: It doesn't rain there It does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: This winter I am going to do a photo collage of all the different types of Cirrus and precipitation free, gray cloud decks we see in WNE. Maybe you and Powderfreak can contribute and I'll expand it to NNE. I can't wait to get a collective beatdown from the interior over the next few winters. Oh the fun times I will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 12 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Move to Weymouth, MA. S. Weymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I can't wait to get a collective beatdown from the interior over the next few winters. Oh the fun times I will have. Lol, I know. However, this past weekend didn't boost confidence when the S Coast was getting inches of rain and we had drizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 hours ago, dendrite said: 14F at Maple Hollow LOL...close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Coldest in New Eng! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 35 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Lol, I know. However, this past weekend didn't boost confidence when the S Coast was getting inches of rain and we had drizzle. Just luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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