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powderfreak

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49 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

 

Yeah that was an epic pack winter...even down here we had probably 6-7" of water in the pack at times. We just weren't able to avoid all worst of the thaws like you did up there so usually about 22-25" was the highest we could get it. That winter had some good transition events too which always solidifies the W.E. in the pack. Lots of IP/ZR after front end thumps and then FROPA freezes it into place.

Back in 2010-11 (a very underrated winter up here as I've said before) looking at CoCoRAHS around here we had these values:

Stowe 0.2SW...35" with 8.90" SWE.

Waterbury (JSpin)...37" with 7.99" liquid.

I feel like most "good" winters with normal to above snowfall should probably end with at least 5-7" SWE up here in the towns, with big winters hitting double digits.

2012-13 had some very good SWE values up here too after the March storms.  

Any winter that doesn't melt to grass up here seems to hold most of the winter QPF in the pack, even for rain events that just get absorbed.

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ORH_wxman

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49 minutes ago, Hoth said:

Man, that was only 13.1" officially? Didn't Blue Hills pull 30" out of it? 

 

Logan airport number...I remember having to go into work on the 8th for several hours driving from ORH in blizzard conditions...got to financial district and there was a good 15" with the snow still coming down hard. Probably got about 16-17" total there...west side of BOS probably had 18" and once you started getting into the hilly southwest suburbs like Randolph it was over 2 feet or at least right around 2 feet.

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25 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

 

Logan airport number...I remember having to go into work on the 8th for several hours driving from ORH in blizzard conditions...got to financial district and there was a good 15" with the snow still coming down hard. Probably got about 16-17" total there...west side of BOS probably had 18" and once you started getting into the hilly southwest suburbs like Randolph it was over 2 feet or at least right around 2 feet.

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tamarack

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19 hours ago, powderfreak said:

What winters were better down there?  I'm not well versed down there haha.

I'd expect BOS to have better wall to wall winters but down there it's gotta be real hard to keep 2-3 straight months of winter.

I just think 2009-2010 was an anomalous winter in that how many times has BWI beaten a lot of the state of Maine for snow?  Just the ridiculous NAO block and pattern overall was crazy. 

BWI-PHL were both upper 70s, and a place in the WV mtns recorded about 160" just in Feb. 2010.  They had about 4 ft in the late month event.

BWI top 5 winters

09-10...77.1"

95-96...62.6"

02-03...58.2"

63-64...51.9"

60-61...46.9"  (also in 66-67)

CAR bottom 5 winters

43-44...59.6"

61-62...68.5"

09-10...70.3"

47-48...71.2"

50-51...72.6"

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ORH_wxman

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20 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said:

much better.

think of how fun even a 12" tsunami would be at that spot.

 

The 2004 tsunami actually changed the shape of the sand bar there that you see sticking out at the bottom of the island. It used to be very curvy. They said though that because the water around the Maldives is pretty deep, the tsunami luckily wasn't that high, only about a foot or two in most spots, but it still definitely caused plenty of ruckus...and a lot of cleanup.

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OceanStWx

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10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

The 2004 tsunami actually changed the shape of the sand bar there that you see sticking out at the bottom of the island. It used to be very curvy. They said though that because the water around the Maldives is pretty deep, the tsunami luckily wasn't that high, only about a foot or two in most spots, but it still definitely caused plenty of ruckus...and a lot of cleanup.

Yeah, a lot of tides/currents but not so much run up. The atolls are interesting when it comes to tsunamis, because like you said the deep water quickly becomes shallow and the tsunami wave sort of just passes the island without much stacking up. 

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ORH_wxman

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24 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

Nice, I'm currently having an internal battle over whether to book the Hilton or InterContinental on Moorea right now.

 

I'm not an expert on the French Polynesia resorts, but when I was researching the Maldives for weeks on end, I did find that Hilton properties were very well regarded...they had some of the nicer water villas (or water bungalows as they tend to call them in FP). If you are big into snorkeling, I'd probably pick the place that has the best snorkeling. We did a ton of that...it's just something we got addicted to pretty quickly once exposed to the quality of corals and sea life in the Maldives...and FP should be fairly similar and the plus about having great snorkeling onsite is that you don't have to plan for it, you just do it when you feel like it so it gives you another degree of freedom. It also depends what you are looking for out the trip...sometimes I have found that I expect we're going to do a million things, but then you have the tendency to just want to relax and watch the sun set at the bar or some other outlook, and hang out on the deck of the water villa or the beach...so in that sense, I'd probably choose a place that was slightly nicer vs a place not quite as much but was "closer to activities", since you don't ever get around to doing some of the activities. I remember we were going to take this 2 hour sunset cruise in the Maldives...but then as afternoon went along we had zero desire. We were more interested in relaxing in a lounge chair on the beach watching the sun set, so we decided not to go and we felt like we didn't miss much...the view from the beach was all water anyway like the boat would have been, lol.

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2 hours ago, dendrite said:

Mar 08 I measured something like 12-13" of liquid in my 43" pack.

Don't have the numbers handy, but I'm guessing there was about 12" in the 48" pack on 3/31/01 and at least that much in the 48" on 3/1/08.  SWE must've peaked about 3/9 in 2008.  On the 7th I had a 42" pack, the next 2 days brought 1.6" of cold rain and catpaws, driving the pack all the way down to 38".  Very little melting, just filling up the white sponge.  The 65" pack in mid March of 1984 at my Ft. Kent home had about 16" SWE, and the 80" on Big Twenty Twp must've had 20 or more.

Top SWE in 2015 at my place was 7.16" on 4/6.  One year and one day earlier, I had 11.25".   2014-15 had m 11.5" more snow than 13-14, but wasn't close to being as good a winter, even with the record cold Feb. '15.  (Of course, March 2014 also was record cold.)

Top snowpack I've found for New England is Pinkham's 164" near the end of the 2/69 storm, which dumped 77" there.

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3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I'm not an expert on the French Polynesia resorts, but when I was researching the Maldives for weeks on end, I did find that Hilton properties were very well regarded...they had some of the nicer water villas (or water bungalows as they tend to call them in FP). If you are big into snorkeling, I'd probably pick the place that has the best snorkeling. We did a ton of that...it's just something we got addicted to pretty quickly once exposed to the quality of corals and sea life in the Maldives...and FP should be fairly similar and the plus about having great snorkeling onsite is that you don't have to plan for it, you just do it when you feel like it so it gives you another degree of freedom. It also depends what you are looking for out the trip...sometimes I have found that I expect we're going to do a million things, but then you have the tendency to just want to relax and watch the sun set at the bar or some other outlook, and hang out on the deck of the water villa or the beach...so in that sense, I'd probably choose a place that was slightly nicer vs a place not quite as much but was "closer to activities", since you don't ever get around to doing some of the activities. I remember we were going to take this 2 hour sunset cruise in the Maldives...but then as afternoon went along we had zero desire. We were more interested in relaxing in a lounge chair on the beach watching the sun set, so we decided not to go and we felt like we didn't miss much...the view from the beach was all water anyway like the boat would have been, lol.

Yeah, I'm trying not to go nuts with the excursions because we'll definitely want to spend at least a day on each island doing nothing but enjoy the scenery.

I had done all my research on the Hilton, but it looks like they ran out of award space (or at least reasonable award space) so now I'm thinking that I could cash in some IHG points for the InterCon. I'm wondering if I can set up a an auxiliary NWS office out there. 

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5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We felt like that at times in Hawaii too. The intentions of doing a tons of activities was there, but sometimes a MaiTai out on the pool deck or bar was just as good...if not better. You are there to relax so while doing excursions or whatever is fun....enjoy the peace too.

I really want to get to Kauai...that is probably my only regret about our Hawaii trip. I probably would have switched out our Maui days for Kauai if I could do it over. The Big Island though was amazing.

 

Not that Maui is a bad consolation prize, lol...but the atmosphere of Kauai probably fitted much better with our personal preferences. Plus some of the scenery there is out of this world...being the oldest of the main island and having the landscape mature a bit.

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Just now, ORH_wxman said:

I really want to get to Kauai...that is probably my only regret about our Hawaii trip. I probably would have switched out our Maui days for Kauai. The Big Island though was amazing.

 

Not that Maui is a bad consolation prize, lol...but the atmosphere of Kauai probably fitted much better with our personal preferences. Plus some of the scenery there is out of this world...being the oldest of the main island and having the landscape mature a bit.

It was beautiful.....you would definitely appreciate it. The landscape...weather..etc. Just awesome.  Definitely hit the island up if you go back.

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Just now, ORH_wxman said:

I really want to get to Kauai...that is probably my only regret about our Hawaii trip. I probably would have switched out our Maui days for Kauai if I could do it over. The Big Island though was amazing.

 

Not that Maui is a bad consolation prize, lol...but the atmosphere of Kauai probably fitted much better with our personal preferences. Plus some of the scenery there is out of this world...being the oldest of the main island and having the landscape mature a bit.

I liked Maui a lot. But yeah, I'm with you that the Big Island and Kauai are high on the list. We're using the fact that we haven't seen them yet as an excuse to go back. I still haven't even started editing my photos from the Maui/Molokai trip yet. But I figure that's a good winter project.

Our love for Hawaii is the main reason we picked FP for the honeymoon, we wanted to keep it Polynesian.

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