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[CoastalWx]

6 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

To be honest I haven't looked much at SNE, it's warm but I bet that shakes out with a ton of 70s in the next 10-14 days here.

Just looks continued stagnant ridge in the east. Probably a gradient overall anomaly wise between you and SNE like earlier in the summer. 

[CoastalWx]

10 minutes ago, MetHerb said:

I think the fact that as a whole the summer came out as warm as it did speaks volumes about the + anomalies that the latter half had.  I mentioned in my summer summary that I only had two nights in the 40s in July and August and I should have had more.  We just haven't had many cool nights.

Yeah I think that's what noteworthy. Kevin is talking summer as a whole, but it really didn't start until after 7/12. 

 

  The irony in all this, is that Kevin will join the Fridgedaire side soon enough and post about snow chances while there's a one eyed monster over Anchorage. 

[Baroclinic Zone]

14 minutes ago, MetHerb said:

It's actually a mercury thermometer from the Brooklyn Thermometer Company.  I don't deny it's been warm and even posted the stats for August and the summer as a whole reflecting that.  However, it was a split season with the first half being BN and the latter half being well AN.  There's nothing wrong with stating facts or putting something in perspective or calling someone out when they make claims that are not true.

Where?  All 4 climate stations for BOX were posotive departures for Summer.

[powderfreak]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Just looks continued stagnant ridge in the east. Probably a gradient overall anomaly wise between you and SNE like earlier in the summer. 

Yeah it looked like it wouldn't take much to drape a boundary across us up here.

Like we have different opinions in winters, I just have a different perspective on the heat from my vantage point.  The departures will be there but it just brings beautiful weather usually in September.  Days and days of sun and a highs of 75-80F with lows in the 50-55F range is decently AN but it's as awesome as it gets for outdoor recreation.

 

[ORH_wxman]

4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah it looked like it wouldn't take much to drape a boundary across us up here.

Like we have different opinions in winters, I just have a different perspective on the heat from my vantage point.  The departures will be there but it just brings beautiful weather usually in September.  Days and days of sun and a highs of 75-80F with lows in the 50-55F range is decently AN but it's as awesome as it gets for outdoor recreation.

 

 

You have to remember sometimes that Scooter lives in the tropics of SNE...he gets parrots at his bird feeders.

[CapturedNature]

4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Where?  All 4 climate stations for BOX were posotive departures for Summer.

Correct.  I was just saying that the first half of summer was below normal (June 1-July 12th), then it got very warm.  So warm in fact that at least everyone in SNE had positive departures for the summer.  For me it was my 8th warmest.  August just tipped the scales in a big way.

[eekuasepinniW]

Spectacular day so far.

Been trying to absorb as much of this weather as I can.

[Baroclinic Zone]

4 minutes ago, MetHerb said:

Correct.  I was just saying that the first half of summer was below normal (June 1-July 12th), then it got very warm.  So warm in fact that at least everyone in SNE had positive departures for the summer.  For me it was my 8th warmest.  August just tipped the scales in a big way.

Still not sure how you come to this bolded statement.  Can you show me the #'s.  Like I just said above, all 4 climate stations at BOX were positive departures for each of the 3 summer months, so how do you arrive at a negative departure for the first 1-2mo?  

[dendrite]

27 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Stop bringing facts!

June and July middle of the road, August top 5 for heat is how it'd shake out up here.   August was very hot.

 

Hottest summer on record for CON since the 1870s..and you may have to question the validity of that old data given before this year the top 4 were from that decade.

[OceanStWx]

3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Hottest summer on record for CON since the 1870s..and you may have to question the validity of that old data given before this year the top 4 were from that decade.

You may have to question the validity of data this year too...

[powderfreak]

2 minutes ago, dendrite said:

 

Hottest summer on record for CON since the 1870s..and you may have to question the validity of that old data given before this year the top 4 were from that decade.

Yeah that does look questionable, haha.

CON is turning into BTV haha...the temps just keep rising.

[dendrite]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

You may have to question the validity of data this year too...

Warmest winter on record too this past year. We're turning into EWR.

[Ginx snewx]

DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

 1  76  63  70   4   0   5    T  0.0    M  6.1 15 220   M    M   7 13     19 350
 2  77  58  68   2   0   3 0.00  0.0    M  8.3 15 330   M    M   1        20 350
 3  71  55  63  -3   2   0 0.00  0.0    M  5.2 12  30   M    M   0        17  30
 4  74  56  65   0   0   0 0.00  0.0    M  8.2 15  80   M    M   0        23  40
 5  74  55  65   0   0   0 0.03  0.0    M 12.4 22  30   M    M   3 1      34  30
 6  67  57  62  -3   3   0 0.11  0.0    M 10.8 20  30   M    M  10 12     29  30
 7  74  65  70   6   0   5 0.16  0.0    M  7.0 13  20   M    M  10 12     17  40
 8  80  66  73   9   0   8 0.01  0.0    M  5.2 15 240   M    M   6 12     18 250

well let's revisit this week where Kev said 80's and 90's starting Monday where he lives

[moneypitmike]

56 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Gypsy moths and drought should help.

Weaker trees in those areas that had to deal with defoliation and a bit of dryness must be pretty stressed this year.

 

Meanwhile, it's a little humid but not too bad.

 

77.6

 

 

[powderfreak]

9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

 1  76  63  70   4   0   5    T  0.0    M  6.1 15 220   M    M   7 13     19 350
 2  77  58  68   2   0   3 0.00  0.0    M  8.3 15 330   M    M   1        20 350
 3  71  55  63  -3   2   0 0.00  0.0    M  5.2 12  30   M    M   0        17  30
 4  74  56  65   0   0   0 0.00  0.0    M  8.2 15  80   M    M   0        23  40
 5  74  55  65   0   0   0 0.03  0.0    M 12.4 22  30   M    M   3 1      34  30
 6  67  57  62  -3   3   0 0.11  0.0    M 10.8 20  30   M    M  10 12     29  30
 7  74  65  70   6   0   5 0.16  0.0    M  7.0 13  20   M    M  10 12     17  40
 8  80  66  73   9   0   8 0.01  0.0    M  5.2 15 240   M    M   6 12     18 250

well let's revisit this week where Kev said 80's and 90's starting Monday where he lives

Kev hasn't posted a temperature observation from where he lives since May 1st, lol.  You never hear "Nice day, high of 81.4F at home." It's, "wow what a scorcher it's 88F at HFD."

It's only dew point obs at home with the temp at HFD/BDL (which ever is hotter) in the summer.  But his home station temp will be coming back shortly.

[dendrite]

7 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Weaker trees in those areas that had to deal with defoliation and a bit of dryness must be pretty stressed this year.

 

Meanwhile, it's a little humid but not too bad.

 

77.6

 

 

These 70F dews don't feel bad after what we had in August.

[ORH_wxman]

14 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

You may have to question the validity of data this year too...

 

MADIS looks pretty bad there since late July. Almost 2F warmer than it typically runs.

[OceanStWx]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

MADIS looks pretty bad there since late July. Almost 2F warmer than it typically runs.

Contractor beautified the ASOS between 7/13 and 7/15 I think...

[OceanStWx]

Congrats everyone!

[scoob40]

10 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Weaker trees in those areas that had to deal with defoliation and a bit of dryness must be pretty stressed this year.

 

Meanwhile, it's a little humid but not too bad.

 

77.6

 

 

Dew Point of 72 is a little humid ?

[Baroclinic Zone]

We warming up nicely today.  82/72.  Took me till 5pm yesterday to get this warm.

[CapturedNature]

22 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Still not sure how you come to this bolded statement.  Can you show me the #'s.  Like I just said above, all 4 climate stations at BOX were positive departures for each of the 3 summer months, so how do you arrive at a negative departure for the first 1-2mo?  

I see what you're saying.  I hadn't looked at the "big" 4 because I have my own 30+ year data set and normals and I was below normal in June.  I do concede that the others were above.  Having said that, departures of 0.6 and 0.7°, etc. do not lead to top 10 warmest summers.  After July 12th or so, it became much warmer and that is what put us over the top to be be a top 10 warmest summer.  Still not the hottest ever as some claim.

[Baroclinic Zone]

Just now, MetHerb said:

I see what you're saying.  I hadn't looked at the "big" 4 because I have my own 30+ year data set and normals and I was below normal in June.  I do concede that the others were above.  Having said that, departures of 0.6 and 0.7°, etc. do not lead to top 10 warmest summers.  After July 12th or so, it became much warmer and that is what put us over the top to be be a top 10 warmest summer.  Still not the hottest ever as some claim.

No problem.  There are sub-climates to the major ones as we all well know and I do know you keep your own meticulous records.  No denying the difference in the latter half, I concede.  Brutal stretch mid-July on.  This is the time of year where I enjoy the daily variability.  You have the pattern beginning it's transition so it's difficult to remain locked in one pattern for too long.  

[moneypitmike]

9 minutes ago, scoob40 said:

Dew Point of 72 is a little humid ?

There's a light breeze so it doesn't feel too bad.

 

Up to 78.0 at 11:30.  I'm not sure if there's enough propane in this blow torch to get me past 82.  We'll see.....

[Typhoon Tip]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

 

  I don't know, we had pretty much a week of the most hottest and humid weather this area can support. The positive departures since mid July don't get much higher than that.  There were moments where the biggest 850 plumes got cut off at the pass, but on the other hand, so have the cold shots. Just bounced off New England like a hair follicle on Kevin's head.  So there is that too. The theme could be more in the way of.....all warm all the time. I normally don't defend Kevin, but some in here seem to be delusional to it. It's been warm for sure. Maybe someone's  accurite thermometer at maple sugar shack got to the U40s a few nights. 

right - hence the usage of "on record" ... meaning, the pattern would/should/could have supported circumstance that pushed that upper envelope of what is 'thought' to be supported around here.

i disagree that the week in question was the most hottest and humid this region can support.  there is no upper ridged ceiling/boundary on such matters - not in the business of weather.  if we want to say that history suggests there are difficulties in getting there - i'd hands down agree.  but, there's room to push 'records'  and the pattern supported doing so ... yet failed. 

i'm not attempting to discredit how warm it got - sure.  woof.  ...just to re-iterate: it left points on the field.  

[Damage In Tolland]

43 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Still not sure how you come to this bolded statement.  Can you show me the #'s.  Like I just said above, all 4 climate stations at BOX were positive departures for each of the 3 summer months, so how do you arrive at a negative departure for the first 1-2mo?  

Because he radiates it came in below in his yard. Any non bigtime radiators were above 

[Damage In Tolland]

33 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

 1  76  63  70   4   0   5    T  0.0    M  6.1 15 220   M    M   7 13     19 350
 2  77  58  68   2   0   3 0.00  0.0    M  8.3 15 330   M    M   1        20 350
 3  71  55  63  -3   2   0 0.00  0.0    M  5.2 12  30   M    M   0        17  30
 4  74  56  65   0   0   0 0.00  0.0    M  8.2 15  80   M    M   0        23  40
 5  74  55  65   0   0   0 0.03  0.0    M 12.4 22  30   M    M   3 1      34  30
 6  67  57  62  -3   3   0 0.11  0.0    M 10.8 20  30   M    M  10 12     29  30
 7  74  65  70   6   0   5 0.16  0.0    M  7.0 13  20   M    M  10 12     17  40
 8  80  66  73   9   0   8 0.01  0.0    M  5.2 15 240   M    M   6 12     18 250

well let's revisit this week where Kev said 80's and 90's starting Monday where he lives

Find that post and link it please 

[Typhoon Tip]

1 hour ago, OceanStWx said:

Narragansett Bay is totally lulled into a false sense of security. You would be amazed at how many people I've talked to that think they are safe from hurricane surge because of the Fox Point barrier. Only they live in Barrington, Bristol, Warwick, etc. If anything the hurricane barrier will only exacerbate flooding to the south by not giving the water a northern outlet. 

that's a fascinating and great point, actually!  the stuff about 'back-door' flooding.

that's what Katrina taught... It wasn't the storm surge that submerged the Ninth Ward and where-ever inundation took place, it was the surge E of there combined with heavy rain into pontchartrain that induced levee failure.  

for that matter, imagine if Katrina came in 4 degrees left of her longitude, and DIDN'T eye-wall replace in the close 12 hours?   

preeeetty sure we'd be having this pleasant conversation about that city that used to exist there. 

likewise, if some weird once-in-thou-yr deal sent a geologic flood event into those nooks and coastal crannies down that way, you're talking about the sea coming at you from points inland in a lot of cause... like, WTF!

[Ginx snewx]

15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Find that post and link it please 

On 8/27/2016 at 5:32 AM, Damage In Tolland said:

It's going to be quite the September to remember. Perhaps hottest on record

 

On 8/27/2016 at 2:35 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

Just a freaking furnace for weeks. 

 

On 8/26/2016 at 1:35 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

Man ..look how the ENS just roar the SE ridge waaayy North and West days 11-15.. First week of Sept inferno?

 

 

[dendrite]

30 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

There's a light breeze so it doesn't feel too bad.

 

Up to 78.0 at 11:30.  I'm not sure if there's enough propane in this blow torch to get me past 82.  We'll see.....

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