SP Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Early dawn rise here as sports are in full swing. Popped by the beach after drop offs. I was instantly reminded of the feeling of a pending nor'easter. The winds shifting and building. Choppy seas turning into a steady fetch. Saw the sand dunes being built on the fly. Not too worried about our area but concerned for the south jersey and DE coasts. Locally I expect the impacts commonly found with a moderate coastal. Some power outages, minor to moderate flooding. Definitely beach erosion or as we local like to say dollar bills washed out to sea. Track is key obviously and it ain't over until it's over. 92 and Sandy are my top two events. This might be more Irene like.....likely less for Monmouth. Btw the sunrise was stunning!!!Be safe all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluescat1 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, SP said: Early dawn rise here as sports are in full swing. Popped by the beach after drop offs. I was instantly reminded of the feeling of a pending nor'easter. The winds shifting and building. Choppy seas turning into a steady fetch. Saw the sand dunes being built on the fly. Not too worried about our area but concerned for the south jersey and DE coasts. Locally I expect the impacts commonly found with a moderate coastal. Some power outages, minor to moderate flooding. Definitely beach erosion or as we local like to say dollar bills washed out to sea. Track is key obviously and it ain't over until it's over. 92 and Sandy are my top two events. This might be more Irene like.....likely less for Monmouth. Btw the sunrise was stunning!!! Be safe all! This is going to mess up fishing for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 This is going to mess up fishing for awhile. Might get the mullet moving though. Its either going to kill the fishing for a while or kick it into full swing once things settle down. 2011 was epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I haven't watched the "accu weather" channel in quite some time. I really can't believe they're still looping their broadcast w/a TS/Hurricane on the east coast. No live updates...nothing. The channel is completely useless. I actually miss TWC which I don't have any longer thanks to Verizon. They usually did a decent job with tropical events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I haven't watched the "accu weather" channel in quite some time. I really can't believe they're still looping their broadcast w/a TS/Hurricane on the east coast. No live updates...nothing. The channel is completely useless. I actually miss TWC which I don't have any longer thanks to Verizon. They usually did a decent job with tropical events.This ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Bluescat1 said: This is going to mess up fishing for awhile. Crabbing as well which I was thinking about doing in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 This is going to mess up fishing for awhile. That is correct....though I might soak a few clams on the backside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I haven't watched the "accu weather" channel in quite some time. I really can't believe they're still looping their broadcast w/a TS/Hurricane on the east coast. No live updates...nothing. The channel is completely useless. I actually miss TWC which I don't have any longer thanks to Verizon. They usually did a decent job with tropical events.You are not missing much. The usual live reports showing waves and wind. The cries that this is going to be worse than sandy without the added disclaimer....for those areas who were south of sandy center and now north of hermine center....say from DE coast to AC.Strange thing about this storm is few are aware...care....and very little media and govt hype. They better hope it does not evolve into something really bad. Though from what I recall from my past....a 9ft tide puts much of cape may point under water. I have seen wildwood flood with less water. Wonder how many tourist are currently located between LBI to Cape May? They might get an education on coastal living they did not bargain for....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 What a difference between 6z & 12z NAM runs, this one is going to be a bad one for the beaches (NAM solution) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Di Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Flying to west coast later today. Should get out ok, but honestly slightly worried about getting back into phl on Monday. Hope this storm goes east...go east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 12Z NAM says hold on one second...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Do the GFDL and NGP have any credibility in regards to these types of situations? 6Z runs would be extremely bad for NJ. The GFDL goes as far as to intensify the system to sub 978mb while drifting WNW and making a "landfall" near Wildwood. NGP is similar but a bit farther South....still stalls the system for days though. GFDL as a 981mb: NGP: Thoughts? Is this going to get 'captured' and tugged back to the coast or are we safe? Thanks. Wonder if it is because of this (as of yesterday)- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The NAM lol. Incredible now that with the indecisive 0z ECM ensemble tracks east and west running into having little time to evacuate the barrier islands if this is going to be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 12z RGEM looks W too so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 GFS virtually the same sheds no light on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p626808 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Change on GFS almost makes landfall in NJ Wed Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, p626808 said: Change on GFS almost makes landfall in NJ Wed Night. Short term next 72hrs unchanged, mid week is a new wrinkle who knows about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p626808 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, RedSky said: Short term next 72hrs unchanged, mid week is a new wrinkle who knows about that. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluescat1 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Above normal SST's are the wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 GEM is west like the previous ECM disaster runs. Plot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p626808 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 New AF Recon on way out to Hermine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 30 minutes ago, Bluescat1 said: Above normal SST's are the wild card. From what I've been reading in other regional forums, up welling will negate any strengthening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard-on-GFS Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, Violentweatherfan said: From what I've been reading in other regional forums, up welling will negate any strengthening. That doesn't make any sense to me because any storm on any part of the ocean is going to cause upwelling it doesn't negate the fact that there's a massive amount of latent heat energy in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluescat1 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 35 minutes ago, Violentweatherfan said: From what I've been reading in other regional forums, up welling will negate any strengthening. It may stop the strengthening over time but initially I think it is still a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, Blizzard-on-GFS said: That doesn't make any sense to me because any storm on any part of the ocean is going to cause upwelling it doesn't negate the fact that there's a massive amount of latent heat energy in the ocean. Cooler to colder water will surface and reduce SST's. Hermine may strengthen only since it moved from land to seas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 28 minutes ago, Blizzard-on-GFS said: That doesn't make any sense to me because any storm on any part of the ocean is going to cause upwelling it doesn't negate the fact that there's a massive amount of latent heat energy in the ocean. ???? you do realize that any storm that sits in one location for a long period of time typically weakens due to cooling surface waters. This is very well known fact. Tropical systems need to continue forward momentum over warm water in order to gain or sustain their strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bluescat1 said: It may stop the strengthening over time but initially I think it is still a factor. During Sandy in 2012 I was thinking what would the implications be if Sandy formed late summer with warmer SST's. But from what I read warm SST aren't as deep as say the Caribbean or Gulf of Mexico and not have the same impact. I might be in error since I assumed this might be your thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treckasec Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 That surface wind speed is pretty high ... Maybe 65-70 mph winds next update for Hermine if they count that peak wind speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treckasec Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 That surface wind speed is pretty high ... Maybe 65-70 mph winds next update for Hermine if they count that peak wind speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 ECM east. DT must be like WUT lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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