HillsdaleMIWeather Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 We've all been paying so much attention to TD 9, this one slipped under everyone's radar If a northern shift happens big problems could happen. WTPA35 PHFO 292045 TCPCP5 BULLETIN HURRICANE MADELINE ADVISORY NUMBER 13 NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP142016 1100 AM HST MON AUG 29 2016 ...MADELINE RAPIDLY INTENSIFIES TO A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE... ...HURRICANE WATCH ISSUED FOR HAWAII COUNTY... SUMMARY OF 1100 AM HST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION ----------------------------------------------- LOCATION...18.6N 145.5W ABOUT 630 MI...1015 KM E OF HILO HAWAII ABOUT 825 MI...1330 KM E OF HONOLULU HAWAII MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...966 MB...28.53 INCHES WATCHES AND WARNINGS -------------------- CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY: A Hurricane Watch has been issued for Hawaii County. SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT: A Hurricane Watch is in effect for... * Hawaii County. A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area. A Hurricane Watch is typically issued 48 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical storm force winds...conditions that make outside preparations difficult or dangerous. Interests elsewhere in the main Hawaiian Islands should monitor the progress of Madeline. Watches may be required for additional Hawaiian Islands later today or tonight. DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK ------------------------------ At 1100 AM HST (2100 UTC), the center of Hurricane Madeline was located near latitude 18.6 North, longitude 145.5 West. Madeline is moving toward the west-northwest near 10 mph (17 km/h). A gradual turn toward the west is expected by Tuesday, with little change in forward speed. Maximum sustained winds are near 115 mph (185 km/h) with higher gusts. Madeline is a category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. Little change in intensity is expected through Tuesday, with weakening forecast thereafter. Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 30 miles (45 km) from the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 115 miles (185 km). The estimated minimum central pressure is 966 mb (28.53 inches). HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND ---------------------- WIND: Winds to hurricane force are possible over Hawaii County on Wednesday. SURF: Swells generated by Madeline are expected to reach the Hawaiian Islands over the next couple of days, possibly becoming damaging along some coastlines Wednesday and Thursday. RAIN: Heavy rains associated with Madeline may reach Hawaii County on Wednesday, and may impact other Hawaiian Islands Wednesday night and Thursday. NEXT ADVISORY ------------- Next intermediate advisory at 200 PM HST. Next complete advisory at 500 PM HST. $$ Forecaster Birchard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hopefully one of these days the spell will be lifted and we can get a strike on the big island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaEasternWX Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Has a major hurricane ever hit Hawaii before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inudaw Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Historically speaking it is hard for a hurricane to maintain its strength going into Hawaii at that angle. Most tend to lose their punch approaching from the East like that verses getting pulled from the south of the islands.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, WeatherFan202 said: Has a major hurricane ever hit Hawaii before? INIKI 1992...aka the jurassic park storm. cat 4...nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inudaw Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, cmasty1978 said: INIKI 1992...aka the jurassic park storm cat 4...nasty. For reference of Iniki's path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hawaii's already counted a rare TS landfall (Darby) this season. To have two named systems (possibly three if Lester brings TS winds or more to the islands) affecting the state in the same season would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 So what's the deal with names as storms traverse the E Pac into Central Pac? We've got Madeline in the CPAC tracking west and Lester in the EPAC tracking west.... Madeline is tracked by the CPHC and not NHC which was confusing when I Went to NHC looking for info on Madeline....instead I see only Lester still in the EPAC and was confused since L comes before M.....I guess Madeline formed in the CPAC so got a CPAC name.....Lester if continues east will stay Lester so that the CPAC 2016 record will show two "L" storms.....I assume ther already an "L" CPAC Storm given we're currently at Madeline.....lolz that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 the nhc gives out forcasts on storms in the east pacific.. until a storm gets to 140 west then the central hurricane center takes over.. that is there sphere of responsibility.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, nycwinter said: the nhc gives out forcasts on storms in the east pacific.. until a storm gets to 140 west then the central hurricane center takes over.. that is there sphere of responsibility.. Ok so when a storm crosses 140 west what happens to the name? And how is that recorded in CPAC records? Seems multiple letter storms are possible under this arrangement..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 the name remains the same.. now if the storms happens to make it into the western pacific the name will change depending on what country it affects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 59 minutes ago, nycwinter said: the name remains the same.. now if the storms happens to make it into the western pacific the name will change depending on what country it affects... That's not true, the name stays the same but it just switches from being called a hurricane to a typhoon. A good example of that is Ioke, the most powerful CPAC Storm on record. It happened several years back and made the transition. Hurricane/typhoon John was a big deal too because it set the record for most miles traveled. Sometimes the locals have a second name for storms, especially in the Philippines. I think that's why you might have thought it changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I just came home from Hawaii a week ago. They still talk about the impact from Iniki. In fact, they have a major overpopulation of wild chickens because a lot of chicken coops were destroyed during that storm and many chickens escaped. The height of some of those volcanic peaks are enough to disrupt a lot of circulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, cmasty1978 said: That's not true, the name stays the same but it just switches from being called a hurricane to a typhoon. A good example of that is Ioke, the most powerful CPAC Storm on record. It happened several years back and made the transition. Hurricane/typhoon John was a big deal too because it set the record for most miles traveled. Sometimes the locals have a second name for storms, especially in the Philippines. I think that's why you might have thought it changes. your question was about name change and i answered it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 45 minutes ago, nycwinter said: your question was about name change and i answered it.. ??? I didnt ask the initial question and your answer was incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 CPHC with a good reminder for everyone in Hawaii: Users are reminded to not focus too closely on the deterministic forecast track, and that hazards associated with hurricanes can extend well away from the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Warning issued for the Big Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I will say the Central Pacific Hurricane Center web site looks like it was from the late 1990's and finding the information you want is not the easiest unless you are a frequent visitor to the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 dat big island hurricane blasting shield, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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