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September 2016 Discussion/Obs


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It looks like 54 may do it for the lowest monthly min this September in NYC. This would be the 3rd warmest on record.

HPN at 44 degrees for the month would be the 5th warmest. If the BDR 50 min holds as coldest, then it will tie for warmest 

monthly min on record with 2015.

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

It looks like 54 may do it for the lowest monthly min this September in NYC. This would be the 3rd warmest on record.

HPN at 44 degrees for the month would be the 5th warmest. If the BDR 50 min holds as coldest, then it will tie for warmest 

monthly min on record with 2015.

September may also finish with 25 days with minimum temperatures of 60° or above (based on the latest MOS), which would be the 2nd highest figure on record. The record is 26 days, which was set in 1881 and tied in 1908, 1930, and 1971.

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5 hours ago, bluewave said:

It looks like 54 may do it for the lowest monthly min this September in NYC. This would be the 3rd warmest on record.

HPN at 44 degrees for the month would be the 5th warmest. If the BDR 50 min holds as coldest, then it will tie for warmest 

monthly min on record with 2015.

September 1960 had a minimum of 54 so don't worry...<_<...after Last December's no temp 32 or lower anything on the warm side can happen...

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3 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

September may also finish with 25 days with minimum temperatures of 60° or above (based on the latest MOS), which would be the 2nd highest figure on record. The record is 26 days, which was set in 1881 and tied in 1908, 1930, and 1971.

You know it has been warm when a -2 daily departure in later September actually feels cold.

32 minutes ago, uncle W said:

September 1960 had a minimum of 54 so don't worry...<_<...after Last December's no temp 32 or lower anything on the warm side can happen...

Last December was in a class by itself. Just goes to show that an historic warm start can't cancel winter when the blocking delivers Jan into Feb.

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2 hours ago, forkyfork said:

the euro barely gives us any rain from the cutoff

 

43 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

The rains from cutoffs almost always end up further north and east than originally thought. Can't tell you how many times I thought I was sitting pretty only to watch the coast get destroyed.

It was either the Mt.Holly or Upton NWS office that stated the Euro was a western outlier in their discussion this morning. I believe previous Euro runs showed us getting a good amount of rainfall with the cutoff so hopefully the heavier rains sets up over our area where it is needed.

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1 hour ago, NJwx85 said:

The rains from cutoffs almost always end up further north and east than originally thought. Can't tell you how many times I thought I was sitting pretty only to watch the coast get destroyed.

mentioned elsewhere, but a met said that the Euro often has a south and west bias with cutoffs...

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Looks like the 00z GFS moved towards the Euro and NAM with sending the heaviest rainfall into C. PA, we still get some decent rains, just not the amounts that the GFS was showing in previous runs. Have to see what later runs show since the models could be having difficulty resolving where the heaviest rains set up.

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Unfortunately it looks like areas that really need a good heavy rain event to ease the drought may get skunked again as the heaviest rain may fall west of our area over PA with the cutoff low. Still some uncertainty exactly where this sets up but it is not looking good at the moment, but any rainfall will be welcomed even if its on the lighter side. 

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Although LGA will lose the top spot for Sep, it will still pull off yet another top ten warmest finish.

Top 10 warmest months at LGA since 2010:

Streak #1

3/10....#3

4/10....#1

5/10....#5

6/10....#1

7/10....#1

8/10....#8

9/10....#5

 

Streak #2

7/11....#9

9/11....#9

11/11...#5

12/11...#5

1/12....#10

2/12....#1

3/12....#1

4/12....#3

5/12....#6

7/12....#9

8/12....#6

9/12....#9

 

7/13....#3

10/13...#9

 

Streak #3

5/15....#3

8/15....#3

9/15....#2

11/15...#3

12/15...#1

3/16....#2

7/16....#4

8/16....#1

9/16....#1 through 26th but will fall back

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On 9/26/2016 at 9:59 AM, donsutherland1 said:

Despite the cool start, yesterday was actually a great beach day. The summer crowds have thinned dramatically. The water still remains abnormally warm.

A photo from Robert Moses State Park yesterday:

RM09252016_28.jpg

great shot. September is one of the best beach months for the reasons you listed. 

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