OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, CT Rain said: I don't know the exact time... I'm trying to figure it out. I had the BOX radar up the whole time and I never really saw anything concerning in terms of rotation but there was that straight line wind sig. Definitely no "bright and tight" signature on radar that I could see between 4 and 6 when there were storms in the area. That's not to say it didn't happen, it just seems unlikely. There were occasional mid level signatures that showed up, but they were more in the Brooklyn/Danielson areas, plus they were well behind the outflow which is typically pretty detrimental to tornado development. The other thing is if there really was a tornado in there, and it was doing sporadic damage from Pomfret to Foster, that's prime TDS range from KBOX (only 40 or so miles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Chris, what causes the distinct green hue I experienced yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 505 pm in the notch. Don't know about Woodstock Pomfret seemed like some sheared tops there. The rotation I saw was low level and racing to exactly where the damage was. I am here , daamge was here. Thats the direction the probably 1/4 mile wide rotation was headed, thats about 700 ft elevation I am 515 so maybe it scrapped there and lifted? Okay, based on your map at least there was some mid level rotation in the storm, so we can't rule it out as a possibility. Based on the storm environment I would say anything that did form would have been brief and weak. If there is continuous damage along that line it would more likely be straight line than tornadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Chris, what causes the distinct green hue I experienced yesterday That has more to do with the core aloft. If you get a big enough storm with a lot of water in it, the late day sun gets scattered through the core and you can get different colors. I'm guessing the preferred diurnal timing of storms results in preferential green hues. So contrary to popular belief it's not a big hail or tornado thing, just a big storm period (which of course could also contain hail and tornadoes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Okay, based on your map at least there was some mid level rotation in the storm, so we can't rule it out as a possibility. Based on the storm environment I would say anything that did form would have been brief and weak. If there is continuous damage along that line it would more likely be straight line than tornadic. Yea, one thing was it wasn't raining either here or in Foster when this occurred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: That has more to do with the core aloft. If you get a big enough storm with a lot of water in it, the late day sun gets scattered through the core and you can get different colors. I'm guessing the preferred diurnal timing of storms results in preferential green hues. So contrary to popular belief it's not a big hail or tornado thing, just a big storm period (which of course could also contain hail and tornadoes). Thanks, always remember my late Mom who lived in Tornado alley and actually had a next door neighbor killed by a tornado telling me that she always remembered the green hues right before Tornadic storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Okay, based on your map at least there was some mid level rotation in the storm, so we can't rule it out as a possibility. Based on the storm environment I would say anything that did form would have been brief and weak. If there is continuous damage along that line it would more likely be straight line than tornadic. You can see nice mid level rotation on OKX but it was a low level mess on BOX. Considering the worst of the damage was on the Pomfret/Woodstock line where BOX did show a straight line wind sig my guess is no tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Yea, one thing was it wasn't raining either here or in Foster when this occurred Running it back to 2105z or so, and I wouldn't be surprised if you saw some sort of wall cloud pass over you. The outflow hadn't pushed south of those storms yet, and was still attached to the updraft around that time (as I showed in the picture). IF something were going to happen, that would be the area. We had outflow attached to the cluster that raced towards our office yesterday, and right in that notch we had weak rotation too. It's always a good area for stronger impacts from the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, CT Rain said: You can see nice mid level rotation on OKX but it was a low level mess on BOX. Considering the worst of the damage was on the Pomfret/Woodstock line where BOX did show a straight line wind sig my guess is no tornado. Sounds like there are two areas of damage, Pomfret/Woodstock almost certainly seems straight line to me based on radar. The stuff into Foster (those sh*ts get all the good weather in RI) has a little more intrigue based on the radar I just posted. The low level meso was really weak, and in low signal to noise regions, but the mid level meso was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Running it back to 2105z or so, and I wouldn't be surprised if you saw some sort of wall cloud pass over you. The outflow hadn't pushed south of those storms yet, and was still attached to the updraft around that time (as I showed in the picture). IF something were going to happen, that would be the area. We had outflow attached to the cluster that raced towards our office yesterday, and right in that notch we had weak rotation too. It's always a good area for stronger impacts from the storm. Yep, probably. At any rate fun stuff but Momma not having so much fun with no power at home and the two new Foster puppies not feeling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 35 minutes ago, CT Rain said: I think today is a Vermont special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Time frame in Pomfret/Woodstock (guestimating) and Putnam would be around 435p and 455. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Modfan said: Time frame in Pomfret/Woodstock (guestimating) and Putnam would be around 435p and 455. A fire dept guy on Twitter estimated 515 to me but I don't know if that's correct. I would have guessed a bit earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm surprised there isn't a 2% TOR...at least in the slight risk area. Shear is adequate and should slightly increase and helicity should be quite elevated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Right down the hill from me Collelo Avenue in Moosup remains closed due to down wires and tree limbs, according to Plainfield Police. Eversource CT is on their way to that area as of 7:24 AM Saturday morning Fire in Garths hood from lightning strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBudMan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 On the other side of back door front. Any chance we see strong nocturnal storms in NE MA tonight as front washes out and Kevin's high DP air overtakes us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Late evening tornado possibility across western MA into CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Late evening tornado possibility across western MA into CT? HRRR saying several rounds of convection tonight, including a midnight bowing cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: HRRR saying several rounds of convection tonight, including a midnight bowing cluster. The RAP is pretty intriguing as well. I wonder if the nose of the increasing MLJ is going to really allow for convection to blossom...looked like a decent LLJ too becoming like WSW with near S Sfc winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Are you guys meaning all areas or NNE or SNE or where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154495268398836&id=661593835 Scudnado yesterday Richmond RI the kids comments are cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Are you guys meaning all areas or NNE or SNE or where? I think after evening we'll see activity form or push into MA and CT as well. We remain quite unstable after dark and see winds aloft increase and a s/w push through like southern VT or N MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Rotation with the storm just to the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Congrats Dendrite. Going to miss another storm, which dropped 0.75" in 12 minutes at LEB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 I would not be shocked to see a TOR today...especially NE CT/N RI into SE MA area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: 0.75" in 12 minutes at LEB. That's good for enough jelly to dress 8-10 slices of toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: Rotation with the storm just to the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connecticut Appleman Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It is banging away just to my north in Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nice storm over Springfield,MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 52 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: I would not be shocked to see a TOR today...especially NE CT/N RI into SE MA area Gonna need storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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