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July 2016 General Discussion


Hoosier

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On 7/26/2016 at 8:35 PM, Trent said:

CLE is currently sitting at 5th warmest July on record with just 5 days left in the month. It's certainly been hot here, just didn't realize how this stacked up to other months. I think what will bring temps down later this week and take us potentially away from record territory are the overnight lows. With moderate drought conditions present its much easier to cool off at night. 

+3.2F is the 5th warmest? Summer sure doesn't have the range of anomalies as the other 3 seasons apparently.

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1 hour ago, Jonger said:

+3.2F is the 5th warmest? Summer sure doesn't have the range of anomalies as the other 3 seasons apparently.

Don't forget that number is based on the 1980-2010 data set which for CLE was 1.7 degrees warmer annually than the 1970-2000 data set. Those monthly departures would be much larger if it was compared to all years. 

 

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We apparently had one heck of an isolated thunderstorm in Wyandotte yesterday. Came home to puddles and 1.35" in rain gauge from the early afternoon storm (where per wunderground the temp dropped to 68F). Also heard a nearby freeway briefly closed due to flooding. Meanwhile, by my own confirmation, not a drop from Farmington Hills to St Clair Shores to DTW.

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Thats quite an odd jump in Clevelands avg temp for July for one decade.

Regardless, Jonger has a point. No matter how you look at it, for some reason, summer extremes (both cold and warm) are much closer to the mean than any of the other 3 seasons.

Average July temps have overall not changed much at Detroit since records began (didnt incl 1870s or 2010s due to not complete data sets)

1880s- 72.1

1890s- 71.9

1900s- 72.3

1910s- 73.1

1920s- 72.6

1930s- 74.7

1940s- 73.3

1950s- 73.6

1960s- 72.3

1970s- 72.0

1980s- 73.5

1990s- 73.3

2000s- 73.0

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36 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

We apparently had one heck of an isolated thunderstorm in Wyandotte yesterday. Came home to puddles and 1.35" in rain gauge from the early afternoon storm (where per wunderground the temp dropped to 68F). Also heard a nearby freeway briefly closed due to flooding. Meanwhile, by my own confirmation, not a drop from Farmington Hills to St Clair Shores to DTW.

 

My mom claimed there was rain on this side of town yesterday afternoon, and then we had a brief (maybe a couple minutes long at best) heavy rain shower this morning around sunrise.

 

But that's about it. Certainly nothing impressive.

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7 minutes ago, Chinook said:

My parents in Toledo texted me and said they got 1.5" just today, and a little rain yesterday. That kind of breaks a dry spell. My dad said he hasn't mowed the lawn much in weeks.

Frankly, I still don't understand why anyone even fretted over it. Dry spells like what we saw are nothing new, and they rarely take long to be broken.

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3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Thats quite an odd jump in Clevelands avg temp for July for one decade.

Regardless, Jonger has a point. No matter how you look at it, for some reason, summer extremes (both cold and warm) are much closer to the mean than any of the other 3 seasons.

Average July temps have overall not changed much at Detroit since records began (didnt incl 1870s or 2010s due to not complete data sets)

1880s- 72.1

1890s- 71.9

1900s- 72.3

1910s- 73.1

1920s- 72.6

1930s- 74.7

1940s- 73.3

1950s- 73.6

1960s- 72.3

1970s- 72.0

1980s- 73.5

1990s- 73.3

2000s- 73.0

 

My guess is that summer extremes are closer to the mean, at least in part, because of the sun angle and vegetation.  The high sun angle makes it more difficult to have days that are way below average, and abundant vegetation/crops often keeps high temps from getting out of control.

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16 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

 

My guess is that summer extremes are closer to the mean, at least in part, because of the sun angle and vegetation.  The high sun angle makes it more difficult to have days that are way below average, and abundant vegetation/crops often keeps high temps from getting out of control.

Also, given the higher density of cold air, it's a lot easier to see sustained "extreme" cold than it is to see sustained "extreme" heat.

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Cleveland will end up having a top 10 warmest ANY month on record for this month. Looks like Detroit will come close for their top 10 as well.

1) 79.1 - Jul 1955

2) 78.0 - Jul 2012

3) 77.8 - Aug 1947 

4) 77.7 - Aug 1995

4) 77.7 - Jul 1949

6) 77.6 - Jul 2011

7) 76.8 - Jul 1921

76.8 Jul 2016 (Through the 30th, might drop to 76.7 today)

 

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Looks like we may go a day without rain.  Last eve I was mowing, and watched as a conglomeration of congestive cu organized right overhead and began dumping heavy rain about a mile to the south.  Had a few bursts of large/cold drops from the ominous cloud base as it slowly drifted overhead.  If it had organized a few minutes earlier I would have been chased inside.  Got lucky.

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6 hours ago, Trent said:

Cleveland will end up having a top 10 warmest ANY month on record for this month. Looks like Detroit will come close for their top 10 as well.

1) 79.1 - Jul 1955

2) 78.0 - Jul 2012

3) 77.8 - Aug 1947 

4) 77.7 - Aug 1995

4) 77.7 - Jul 1949

6) 77.6 - Jul 2011

7) 76.8 - Jul 1921

76.8 Jul 2016 (Through the 30th, might drop to 76.7 today)

 

This had to be on the back of all the low temps being higher than normal. If someone asked me if July 2016 was hot, I would say no.

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Based on today's high of 86*F and a low so far of 67*F, DTW may just have a +3*F departure for July (with an average temp of 76.8*F), and this will possibly tie for the 8th warmest July on record (along with 1999 and 1991).

Will have to wait until tomorrow morning to confirm for sure. 

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2 hours ago, Jonger said:

This had to be on the back of all the low temps being higher than normal. If someone asked me if July 2016 was hot, I would say no.

Nope, it was the opposite, overnight lows were keeping the average down. CLE's average high for July was +3.9 while the lows were only +2.7. We had 10 90+ days in July and 17 days above 87. 

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