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July 2016 General Discussion


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I think Friday will be the hottest day at ORD since July 2012.  As far as how hot, not going to guess a number yet but normally for 100 degree potential, I look for 850 mb temps of at least 24C (given sufficient mixing).  GFS/ECMWF both have 850 mb temps around 26C so that gives some idea of where things may go if they hold.

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17 minutes ago, Stebo said:

Our point is up to 94 here, TWC though is going with 98... I could see it actually fall between the two to be honest.

100*F+ potential is there for DTW and DET Friday if we can keep convective debris to a minimum. 

We had similar (if not somewhat cooler) profiles on 7/4/12, but also full sunshine aside from towering CU until the severe weather outbreak late that afternoon.

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Was wondering how the frequency of 100+ degree weather in Chicago compares to the frequency of days with high temperatures at or below zero.  

Turns out 100 degree days are more common.  Officially, Chicago has had 65 days with a high of 100 or greater and 61 days with a high of zero or colder.  Since the official observation site moved to ORD in 1980, there have been 22 days with a high of 100 or greater and 14 days with a high of zero or colder.  

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4 hours ago, Powerball said:

100*F+ potential is there for DTW and DET Friday if we can keep convective debris to a minimum. 

We had similar (if not somewhat cooler) profiles on 7/4/12, but also full sunshine aside from towering CU until the severe weather outbreak late that afternoon.

The big question is, will we pull another 90+, 90+, 89 trio again?

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The Midwest is going to be very hot and humid this week.  Stay hydrated you guys! ;)

Could Sioux Falls, SD reach 100F on Thursday? eek.gif

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Very hot temperatures in Eau Claire, WI with highs in the mid 90's on Wednesday and Thursday. Lows are in the mid 70"s very warm! And don't forget it will be humid!

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Just now, Thunder98 said:

Why do MCSs die in Southeast Michigan?

Countless reasons, usually they start far west of here and arrive overnight or in the morning where the dynamic/thermodynamic support is at its weakest. Sometimes we have issues with downsloping weakening MCS as they move into the area as well. Lastly having a close proximity to the lakes tends to knock down instability locally.

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5 hours ago, Thunder98 said:

Why do MCSs die in Southeast Michigan?

 

5 hours ago, Stebo said:

Countless reasons, usually they start far west of here and arrive overnight or in the morning where the dynamic/thermodynamic support is at its weakest. Sometimes we have issues with downsloping weakening MCS as they move into the area as well. Lastly having a close proximity to the lakes tends to knock down instability locally.

A couple things.

1. There's a difference between "Southeast Michigan" and "Detroit." "Southeast Michigan," in its broadest definition, includes areas along the Ohio Border, Flint, the Thumb Region and the Tri-Cities. With that said, the aforementioned areas (especially the Thumb region, Flint and the Tri-Cities) haven't had too bad of a thunderstorm / severe weather season, probably thanks in large part to the extra bout of lift they get from being at a higher elevation. It's Detroit proper and the immediate suburbs that have been getting ****ed in the ass. The little action that has occurred in Metro Detroit has mostly favored the far southern and far northern suburbs.

2. As far as the poor timing of individual shortwaves, that can be blamed entirely on a ridiculously long streak of bad luck. I fondly remember back in the late 90s and early 2000s when it was far more common for shortwaves to come through during peak severe weather hours and deliver modestly well. 

3. Besides the microclimate issues Stebo detailed, the simple fact is the overall pattern (I.E. lack of death ridges and persistent NW flow) for thunderstorms / severe weather has also sucked. The microclimate issues just exasperates the overall crappy pattern we've had. Our most prolific thunderstorm / severe weather episodes in Detroit proper occur when we're under the influence of a death ridge with extreme heat for an extended time, which unfortunately has been sorely lacking for the past few years. 

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41 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Wonder if anybody is going to pull off the rare 100/80 temp/dewpoint combo in the next few days.  Might be a little tough as 100 degree temps may mean a little too much mixing with drier air aloft.

 

Can't wait until we're within RAP's range.  Will probably show a huge swath of 110+ all over the MW lol.

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