dendrite Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 28.6F? Jesus. You need a good station with a FARS there because you have potential to be one of the coldest in the state at times if that's anywhere close to true. Maybe Chris at GYX can make you a COOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 6 hours ago, alex said: Finally got home. Might not have made it to 28.6 like the weather station thinks but we had a good frost. My tomatoes, squashes, corn are all fried. I got like 10 cherry tomatoes out of them and not a single squash. Yippee! The kale is doing fantastic on the other hand. Might have to stick with kale and lettuce next year... I know it's not a davis, but how far off could that station be? 1-3F? Even with that it's pretty damn cold spot. Your tomato season is like a month long up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 6 hours ago, wxeyeNH said: Alex, you are sure in a great location. Do you have a map or anything to show your exact location? I forget what your elevation is. Going to enjoy your new cam! Sure - just google "1800 rt 302 Bretton woods". I don't think it got that cold, I think we just radiate very well which makes not having a FARS problematic. My elevation is 1550 but it's also the lowest spot in the valley, which is I think what makes it particularly cold. You are already decently elevated, but also get cold drainage from the surrounding mountains. I doubt it was 29 though. I don't know how cold it needs to be for tomatoes to get killed but I imagine 34 is probably enough. Even that is a 6 degree difference from my station which is annoying. I wish I had gotten the Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 2 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: I know it's not a davis, but how far off could that station be? 1-3F? Even with that it's pretty damn cold spot. Your tomato season is like a month long up there. Yeah I'm learning. I think I'll get a small greenhouse some day and for now I'll stick with kale, spinach etc. beets came out pretty well too. The corn I planted too late, it got frozen but was close to being ready, but I didn't plant it till early July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 7 hours ago, alex said: Sure - just google "1800 rt 302 Bretton woods". I don't think it got that cold, I think we just radiate very well which makes not having a FARS problematic. My elevation is 1550 but it's also the lowest spot in the valley, which is I think what makes it particularly cold. You are already decently elevated, but also get cold drainage from the surrounding mountains. I doubt it was 29 though. I don't know how cold it needs to be for tomatoes to get killed but I imagine 34 is probably enough. Even that is a 6 degree difference from my station which is annoying. I wish I had gotten the Davis I've had tomatoes survive when there was frost on car roofs 50' away, though no thermometer in the garden patch. They're a bit hardier in late summer than when first planted. Of course, when I lived in Ft. Kent, red tomatoes on the vine were an exotic concept - ripening under newspapers in the cellar was the norm. 0.05" in the gauge this morning - yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 hours ago, alex said: Sure - just google "1800 rt 302 Bretton woods". I don't think it got that cold, I think we just radiate very well which makes not having a FARS problematic. My elevation is 1550 but it's also the lowest spot in the valley, which is I think what makes it particularly cold. You are already decently elevated, but also get cold drainage from the surrounding mountains. I doubt it was 29 though. I don't know how cold it needs to be for tomatoes to get killed but I imagine 34 is probably enough. Even that is a 6 degree difference from my station which is annoying. I wish I had gotten the Davis So you're right on the Ammonoosuc? You must be minutes away from Bretton Woods and MWN Resort? That's definitely a weenie spot for cold. I'm not kidding when I say I recommend something more "official" for temp readings there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Yes that's correct! We are on a 32 acre lot bordered by the Ammo and the National Forest, 1.1 mile from the base lodge of the ski resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Alex...this station is probably most comparable to you. http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base_dyn.cgi?stn=BETN3&time=GMT That's right on the river on 302 in Bethlehem. They were 33.5F on Fri morning, but they only report every 15 minutes. I have an unprotected temp probe that runs about 3-5F cooler than my shielded sensor at 2m so an error of a few degrees puts you in that 32-33F ballpark with possible frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This station looks super close to that location https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNHCARRO4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 minute ago, eekuasepinniW said: This station looks super close to that location https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNHCARRO4 That is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Here's why I think you have shielding problems... There is no way you had a high of 81F that day Alex. That's at least 10F too high for that afternoon. You should've seen something like 70/32 for the day...not 81/28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I was hoping it was a VP2 with FARS located next door to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ended up saving a few bucks and just drove to winni after the wedding. Low as I've ever seen it. There's boats that are going to have trouble coming out of the water. Shocked at how low it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just now, CoastalWx said: Ended up saving a few bucks and just drove to winni after the wedding. Low as I've ever seen it. There's boats that are going to have trouble coming out of the water. Shocked at how low it is. I think I heard on the news its the lowest in 100 years? .18" here earlier this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: I think I heard on the news its the lowest in 100 years? .18" here earlier this morning. Can anyone make sense of how this fits in with the US drought monitor map? Winne is only under abnormally dry conditions.... http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/RegionalDroughtMonitor.aspx?northeast I'm at Glennis falls, in North Conway and you'd think we'd be under severe (at least) drought conditions around here the way rivers and lakes have dried up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: I think I heard on the news its the lowest in 100 years? .18" here earlier this morning. Unless 01 beat it? Anyways the venue was at the Winslow Carter house in Boscawen. What a cool place. Beautiful night too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Here's why I think you have shielding problems... There is no way you had a high of 81F that day Alex. That's at least 10F too high for that afternoon. You should've seen something like 70/32 for the day...not 81/28. Exactly! Is there any way to "fix" that or just a matter of getting a better product? The shielding just doesn't seem to cut it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Alex...this station is probably most comparable to you. http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base_dyn.cgi?stn=BETN3&time=GMT That's right on the river on 302 in Bethlehem. They were 33.5F on Fri morning, but they only report every 15 minutes. I have an unprotected temp probe that runs about 3-5F cooler than my shielded sensor at 2m so an error of a few degrees puts you in that 32-33F ballpark with possible frost. Interesting. Yes, we probably got right around 32F. Bethlehem is not far, maybe 7-8 miles, but lower in elevation and not quite as sheltered as BW, so it makes sense that if you shave off a degree or two you'd be pretty close. Argh I wish I had spent the extra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ok, just talked to Amazon. They are letting me return it! What should I get that provides better shielding? Main thing - I don't run a computer at the house so it needs to have its own server capabilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 44 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: I think I heard on the news its the lowest in 100 years? .18" here earlier this morning. News needs to do more fact checking. It's not even sorta close to being that low. It's about 7-8" below the normal level for this time of year. If the fall stays super dry, it might come close to 2001/2002 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 eek, that might be my error. I walked in right as they were ending the drought segement. They may have been talking about another lake, that's why I put the ? Keep me on the straight and narrow, you know how I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: Keep me on the straight and narrow, you know how I am! I've got my eye on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 0.02" of meh. Radar not looking promising.What happened to storms. Guess convergence didn't develop. Why are models so bad lately? This is frustrating. We had two tstorms all summer and they weren't even severe. I don't care about tstorms at this point, but damn we need real rain events. I'll predict Sunday is a pile of meh. Not to gloat, but looks like forecast for showers and clouds all day is a bust. 0.15" last night with sun coming out now. Tomorrow's precip chances looks to have decreased. The beat goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, eekuasepinniW said: News needs to do more fact checking. It's not even sorta close to being that low. It's about 7-8" below the normal level for this time of year. If the fall stays super dry, it might come close to 2001/2002 levels. It's more than 7-8". There is a rock that is almost 10" out of the water that is usually submerged by a few inches at least. There is one boat virtually bottomed out. It's almost 15-20" lower than normal by our dock. I know we've had some real wet years to skew it, but this is a first for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It's more than 7-8". There is a rock that is almost 10" out of the water that is usually submerged by a few inches at least. There is one boat virtually bottomed out. It's almost 15-20" lower than normal by our dock. I know we've had some real wet years to skew it, but this is a first for me. I said below normal for this time of year, not below full lake. If you want to get super precise we are currently 19.2" below full lake but only 4.56" below the average fall water level as of 11am. This water level is by no means rare, but is usually not seen until November when most people have left the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 2 hours ago, eekuasepinniW said: I said below normal for this time of year, not below full lake. If you want to get super precise we are currently 19.2" below full lake but only 4.56" below the average fall water level as of 11am. This water level is by no means rare, but is usually not seen until November when most people have left the area. I've been here in Novie and that rock hasn't been that exposed. Usually it's closer to this level in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The BTV AFD mentions this year will have the most 80-degree days of any year on record (1882). The BTV torch continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 6pm Really like the radar look right now. Projecting the track of the rain to our SW looks like Central sections of New England could be in the bullseye. 18Z GFS agrees. An inch of rain would be very welcomed. We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 6pm Really like the radar look right now. Projecting the track of the rain to our SW looks like Central sections of New England could be in the bullseye. 18Z GFS agrees. An inch of rain would be very welcomed. We'll see!Pretty please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 A few pictures from Katahdin yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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