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The 3 PM graze produced 0.01", but over 2" a couple dozen miles to my north.  Noisy svr-warned TS 7:40-8:20, with 8-10 close shots (2 to 6 seconds) running about 2 miles ahead of the rain - the two bolts I saw were single-shaft vertical cg.  Once rain began (came in sheets despite mostly modest winds - probably much stronger close overhead) the thunder came much less frequently.  Did have one brief gust that might've touched 30, but no twig showers or power blinks, and 0.25" in that 2nd event.

Aroostook seems to record about half of Maine's tornados, though I don't know the actual proportion.  Had several in 2012-13.  It's a huge county (a bit bigger than CT + RI) but only 20% of the state's area.

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19 hours ago, tamarack said:

Aroostook seems to record about half of Maine's tornados, though I don't know the actual proportion.  Had several in 2012-13.  It's a huge county (a bit bigger than CT + RI) but only 20% of the state's area.

I'm willing to bet they get the largest percentage because of its size, but I guessing that the distribution is closer to even than we think.

I know in the past, this office held (holds?) a very high standard for what is surveyed and what isn't.

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While things are a bit slow... I'm trying to figure out the accuracy of my new weather station. Rain gauge works great, I checked against a manual one. Temperature seems aligned with area readings, but this morning shows a low of 41, which seems too low. I have it mounted on a pole at about 10 feet. The link is https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNHCARRO4. The 2 closest PWSs had 43 and 48 for a low. How do I know which one is right, and how do I get it to be as accurate as possible? Any thoughts???  I'll be adding the new nest outdoor cam as soon as it's released in the fall!

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23 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

I'm willing to bet they get the largest percentage because of its size, but I guessing that the distribution is closer to even than we think.

I know in the past, this office held (holds?) a very high standard for what is surveyed and what isn't.

It's big but there's a large proportion of it where there are unlikely to be any observers, same for northern Piscataquis and Somerset.  I'd guess that an EF0 knocking over trees in a town has a higher percentage of a follow-up survey than one that blew a few trees across a logging road in T18R13, if only because NWS staff have limited time.  An event near people ought to have a higher priority than one amidst 5 million acres of commercial forest.

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1 hour ago, tamarack said:

It's big but there's a large proportion of it where there are unlikely to be any observers, same for northern Piscataquis and Somerset.  I'd guess that an EF0 knocking over trees in a town has a higher percentage of a follow-up survey than one that blew a few trees across a logging road in T18R13, if only because NWS staff have limited time.  An event near people ought to have a higher priority than one amidst 5 million acres of commercial forest.

Yes and no. The idea is to protect life and property, but there is also an element of scientific information about it. If we get a big meso and it produces a tornado, we would rather have it in the database than not. Makes research down the line easier too.

But if you know of any tornado damage across that logging road in T18R13, let us know! ;)

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3 hours ago, alex said:

While things are a bit slow... I'm trying to figure out the accuracy of my new weather station. Rain gauge works great, I checked against a manual one. Temperature seems aligned with area readings, but this morning shows a low of 41, which seems too low. I have it mounted on a pole at about 10 feet. The link is https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNHCARRO4. The 2 closest PWSs had 43 and 48 for a low. How do I know which one is right, and how do I get it to be as accurate as possible? Any thoughts???  I'll be adding the new nest outdoor cam as soon as it's released in the fall!

Hi Alex.  First hope the beagle is hanging in there.  As far as the weather station goes this is a cheap quick way to check temp.  Next time you are in a big box store like Walmart go to the thermometer aisle.  Usually they have tons of inexpensive thermometers. Look through all of them and note the temperature they are reading.  Some will be high, some low but try to figure the average and then buy one that seems to be close to average.  Mount it near your station and check it that way.  Cost a few bucks. Still could be off a degree or so but an easy way to always check.  Also you will have a cheap thermometer if you ever want to drive to a nearby cold spot for a quick temp read.  Maybe someone on the boards has a better way.

Outdoor nest cams coming out this fall.  About $199.  Remember its about $100 a year additional if you want to buy the cloud service.  They give you the first 2 weeks free to see if its something that you would be interested in!

Gene

 

 

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Thanks, Gene - that's a good idea. I'll try that! I do realize it's an extra 100/year for the subscription, but it seems to be the only way to get the timelapse videos, and those are SOOOO cool. Being in a snowy spot, it will be great to get timelapses of the winter storms. 

Unfortunately we had to let go of Rocky the beagle last weekend. It was time. We did the euthanesia at home and he passed away while stuffing down a tub of ice cream - beagle till the last minute! I miss him a lot, but unfortunately it was his time. And we have to move on. 

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$150-200 gets you a 3MP Hikvision and IPtimelapse software for a 1-time fee. I don't have the greatest view for my Hiki, but lots of sites make great time lapses with the software.

Is your station a version with a fan? I've heard of people with those stations claiming tey run a little too cool at night...especially without a fan. 

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13 hours ago, dendrite said:

And the nice thing about iptimelapse is you can overlay your wunderground station data over it...and oh yeah, the owner is from NH. 

http://iptimelapse.com

Alex,  I agree with Brian.  I actually like the iptimelapse better.  I had already bought a Nest.  Definitely take a look at their site and some of their clients.  

On another note looking forward to many convection chances over the medium range period.  If I get through the next 5 days with another .10-.20" of rain I'm going to have to leave the boards  I'll be complaining so much.  I did check  the lightning protection system on the house yesterday.  Having no water source  (the pond has dried up) the high open view, cedar shake roof and a volunteer fire department are all bad combinations for a lightning strike.  That's the only concerning part for me.  Heck,  to see large hail I would even give up the gardens at this point.  

 

 

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16 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

Yes and no. The idea is to protect life and property, but there is also an element of scientific information about it. If we get a big meso and it produces a tornado, we would rather have it in the database than not. Makes research down the line easier too.

But if you know of any tornado damage across that logging road in T18R13, let us know! ;)

Understand both the yes and the no - the one out in the puckerbrush has equal scientific value, while the one 30 minutes down the road uses less staff time than if it were 3 hours thru the woods.  And reporting from T18R13 would've been easier when I lived in Fort Kent and worked (and hunted) in that part of the state.

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3 hours ago, dendrite said:

Ugh...bear last night 

Speaking of large animals we got a call yesterday from a neighbor of ours.  She called to say that a few days ago while driving up our rural dirt road a large "cat type animal" ran in front of the car.  I know her well, she is not a nutcase.  She said this was not a Bobcat or Lynx, it was much bigger than her medium size dog.  It was tan color and had a tail.  She was sure it was some type of cat and not a loose yellow lab etc.   I know there have been many reports over the years of cougars/mountain lions in NNE and she believes this is what she saw.  Personally I am a skeptic of mountain lions in NNE as I would have thought that over the years one would have been hit by a car or substantial clear video would have been captured.  Would love to see one cross right in front of the webcam.  Thoughts?

 

 

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13 hours ago, dendrite said:

$150-200 gets you a 3MP Hikvision and IPtimelapse software for a 1-time fee. I don't have the greatest view for my Hiki, but lots of sites make great time lapses with the software.

Is your station a version with a fan? I've heard of people with those stations claiming tey run a little too cool at night...especially without a fan. 

Those are definitely great options. Question though - I'm not very techy when it comes to IP cameras. Do those require to be connected to a PC? What kind of setup do they require. One thing that I do like about Nest is that all you need is the camera... I don't really want to have a PC running just for the camera, if that makes sense

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Good question.   I am not very techy either.  I bought the Nestcam before I knew about the IP one. The Nest is very easy and as you know does not require a PC.  I haveno idea about the IP software but like Brian says the guy is from NH and I would give him a call and ask all the questions you have.  It would be nice to have the weather data right on the picture, that is a great feature.  My older cam  (Netcam)  has its own software so my computer can be off and the cam still on.  Here's the IP site   http://iptimelapse.com/

 

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1 hour ago, tamarack said:

Understand both the yes and the no - the one out in the puckerbrush has equal scientific value, while the one 30 minutes down the road uses less staff time than if it were 3 hours thru the woods.  And reporting from T18R13 would've been easier when I lived in Fort Kent and worked (and hunted) in that part of the state.

Someday I hope we'll absorb CAR, and forecast for all the lands from PSM to PQI.

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3 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

Speaking of large animals we got a call yesterday from a neighbor of ours.  She called to say that a few days ago while driving up our rural dirt road a large "cat type animal" ran in front of the car.  I know her well, she is not a nutcase.  She said this was not a Bobcat or Lynx, it was much bigger than her medium size dog.  It was tan color and had a tail.  She was sure it was some type of cat and not a loose yellow lab etc.   I know there have been many reports over the years of cougars/mountain lions in NNE and she believes this is what she saw.  Personally I am a skeptic of mountain lions in NNE as I would have thought that over the years one would have been hit by a car or substantial clear video would have been captured.  Would love to see one cross right in front of the webcam.  Thoughts?

 

 

IMO, there have been too many sightings by folks with woods experience to dismiss all of them as false.  However, I'm also of the opinion that there is no population of breeding wild cougars in New England, for the reasons above, along with the "silence" from all the trailcams out there.  In addition, there have been no reports of probable cougar kills - like partial deer carcasses partially buried with sticks/leaves, and with much hair scraped off, classic cougar behavior.  However, there are dozens of legally possessed captive cougars in Maine - permit from Inland Fisheries and Wildlife required - and probably almost as many without-permit critters.  The only DNA-confirmed sighting of which I'm aware was 25-30 years back in Cape Elizabeth.  Good deer population eating peoples' yard shrubbery there, but hardly the place to find the incredibly shy wild cougar.

So the credible sightings could be animals dumped in the woods by people tired of the food bills, or single animals from Quebec which have wandered by, neither of which appear to be propagating in the wild.

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Thanks Tamarack.

This new update for the boards is driving me nuts, loads so slow, hopefully it is still being worked on.

I was looking through an old weatherbook I have called New England Weather by David Ludlum published in 1976.  It lists historical New England weather events by week.  Of particular note it said  for July 12 1888, " snow fell on Mt Washington almost to the base.  Also on Camel's Hump in Vermont".  I would almost guess if it was just on one mountain it could have been a freak hailstorm that made it look like snow but it lists both mountains.  That was the only mention of snow in New England for the month of July. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, alex said:

Those are definitely great options. Question though - I'm not very techy when it comes to IP cameras. Do those require to be connected to a PC? What kind of setup do they require. One thing that I do like about Nest is that all you need is the camera... I don't really want to have a PC running just for the camera, if that makes sense

The Hiki is an IP camera, but I'm pretty sure you need the comp on to capture and save the images from your camera onto your hard drive. The software makes the timelapse videos from the saved image captures. I'd contact the developer like Gene said to see if there's a workaround. I'm not up to date with my all of my technology.

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32 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The Hiki is an IP camera, but I'm pretty sure you need the comp on to capture and save the images from your camera onto your hard drive. The software makes the timelapse videos from the saved image captures. I'd contact the developer like Gene said to see if there's a workaround. I'm not up to date with my all of my technology.

Thanks, I'll do some research. Won't be too upset if I end up with a nest - they look pretty awesome even if you have to pay for it

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