allgame830 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Allsnow said: You need to click on the post to see the full quote. He basically said that it's odd that none of them show the loop back towards to coast and it could be because of the storm going from tropical to non tropical. Thanks for clearing that up. Saw what you were referring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrye Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 4 hours ago, NJwx85 said: Have you even looked at the 4k NAM? It's showing 950mb at landfall. Like I said, enough with the NAM nonsense. It's less useful than **** on a bull with tropical systems over the ocean. It might be useful once it comes onshore. Look, the mods don't want the N_M discussed here, LOL. Yes it overdoes intensity and precip ... almost always. But so does the HWRF. I think it's kind of hypocritical to wishcast using the HWRF and then be critical of someone who does it using the N_M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 minute ago, larrye said: Look, the mods don't want the N_M discussed here, LOL. Yes it overdoes intensity and precip ... almost always. But so does the HWRF. I think it's kind of hypocritical to wishcast using the HWRF and then be critical of someone who does it using the N_M. Nothing hypocritical about using a tropical model to forecast tropical weather. Sorry but you're wrong. You wouldn't use the HWRF to forecast a nor'easter in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaPo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Any word on the MAM? It nailed a number of storms this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 wait so there are models totally having this east...can someone do a quick recap...hoping for a sunny weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: wait so there are models totally having this east...can someone do a quick recap...hoping for a sunny weekend Sorry there not east enough where nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Pressure down to 998.8 mb per air force recon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 No nam talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rjay Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 No more trolling or bickering. If the 0z suite as a whole continues to show something interesting for our area, someone feel free to start a storm thread. ***But please wait until after the 0z suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Upton tidal update at 11 .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... -- Changed Discussion -- Depending on future track and intensity...Hermine could produce significant coastal flooding, battering surf and dune erosion, and dangerous rip currents this Labor Day weekend. Given predicted astronomical high tides for Saturday Evening into Monday, most places would require surge of 1.5 to 2.5 ft at high tide for minor flooding, 3.0 to 3.5 ft for moderate flooding...and 4 to 5 ft for major flooding. At this point...a reasonable worst case scenario would include potential for moderate to major flood thresholds to be reached. Still considerable uncertainty with the track and intensity of this system...so continue to monitor the latest forecasts. -- End Changed Discussion -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrye Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 2 hours ago, NJwx85 said: Nothing hypocritical about using a tropical model to forecast tropical weather. Sorry but you're wrong. You wouldn't use the HWRF to forecast a nor'easter in January. Never mind, you're missing the point. It's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Gfs is east but retrogades back near LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrye Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 On this 0Z GFS run, it seems to retrograde and looks to me like the heavier precip actually gets up north of NYC on Sunday afternoon/evening. Then doesn't head E/NE until Monday morning/afternoon and still affects LI until late Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, larrye said: On this 0Z GFS run, it seems to retrograde and looks to me like the heavier precip actually gets up north of NYC on Sunday afternoon/evening. Then doesn't head E/NE until Monday morning/afternoon and still affects LI until late Monday. Same as the GGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Ukie is way further east and doesn't retrogade back Every model went east tonight Check back tomorrow for new solutions lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Navgem is also east and stalls near the mid atlantic with barely any rain from NJ northward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Ukie is way further east and doesn't retrogade back Every model went east tonight Check back tomorrow for new solutions lol It was def further east but it does retrograde very late and backs in towards CC between hrs 96 and 120 before going OTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Ukie is way further east and doesn't retrogade back Every model went east tonight Check back tomorrow for new solutions lol It was def further east but it does retrograde very late and backs in towards CC between hrs 96 and 120 before going OTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 From the tropical thread, click on the thread title to read the full version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The Euro stalls south off us on its latest run. There will be some impacts along the coast if this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The eps mean is pretty far south east and then stalls it off the mid Atlantic coast. Verbatim it's a easterly flow and showery here for two days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The trend the last few days has been 12z west and 00z east see if that continues today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 And just like that the GFS is back west again from 00z. Hr 69 just east of the Delmarva dumping rain on snj and costal mid Atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Stalls just east of acy pretty bad run for the jersey shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Really tough forecast going into the weekend that is for sure, I think today and tomorrow's model runs will be critical. Also doesn't help that we are going into a new moon with tides expected to be astronomically high on top of it being the last true shore weekend of the summer, alot for forecasters and emergency managers to take into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Stalls just east of acy pretty bad run for the jersey shore explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: explain Easterly fetch will cause beach erosion, coastal flooding especially with high tide and those areas were affected pretty bad by sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: explain For 24 hours and that water has no place to go. It's a pretty wet run also for the majority of the area. Two inches of rain for the city and 4-8 for the jersey shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 GFS has winds of 60+ on the jersey shore tropical storm strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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