Stebo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Not sure if it means anything, but weak convection in SW OK is laying down an outflow boundary near a line from Quanah to Synder. Possible focal point? There is another old outflow boundary that is laying right through Frederick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX 1222 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2016 ...LATEST REGARDING THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING HOURS... UPDATE CURRENT FORECASTS WITH SEVERE POTENTIAL STILL LOOK GOOD...ALONG WITH BEST RAIN CHANCES OCCURRING ALONG AND EAST OF I-35/35W. A STRONG NEGATIVE TILTED TROUGH CONTINUES ROTATING NORTHEAST OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AT MIDDAY. A BROAD SURFACE LOW AND TRIPLE-POINT WAS NOTED FROM SNYDER TO SEYMOUR...WITH A WARM FRONT TAILING BACK ESE ALONG A BRIDGEPORT/BOWIE...TO MCKINNEY... TO COOPER/SULPHUR SPRINGS LINE. A DRYLINE TAILING SOUTH-SOUTHWEST FROM THE SURFACE LOW WAS ALREADY BULGING EAST TOWARD ABILENE IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED MID LEVEL HEIGHT FALLS ACROSS THE SOUTH PLAINS. TEMPERATURES ARE WARMING RAPIDLY THROUGH THE 70S TO AROUND 80 IN THE WARM AND HUMID SECTOR EAST OF THE DRYLINE AND SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT. A VERY MOIST AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT WILL COINCIDE WITH STRONGAFTERNOON HEATING TO PRODUCE A VERY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR THIS MORNING. IN ADDITION...LARGE SCALE ASCENT WILL INCREASE BY 2 PM CDT AND AFTER FOR THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF SEVERE STORMS ALONG OR JUST WEST OF I-35 IN AN AREA OF ENHANCED ISENTROPIC ASCENT. INITIALLY...DISCRETE SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORMS WITH LOW LCL/S WILL BE POSSIBLE...AS SURFACE DEW PT TEMPERATURES ARE HIGH AND IN THE LOWER-MID 70S WITHIN THE WARM SECTOR. ALL MODES OF SEVERE WEATHER WILL BE POSSIBLE. THE BIG WILD CARD LATER IN THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING WILL BE HOW LONG DISCRETE STORMS WILL OCCUR...AS LARGE-SCALE ASCENT OCCURS QUICKLY AT CONVECTIVE TEMPERATURE AND MAY RESULT IN INFLOW INTERRUPTION WITH IF STORMS BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD SOONER. IF ACTIVITY BECOMES TOO WIDESPREAD TOO FAST...THEN DISCRETE SUPERCELLS WILL BE LESS LIKELY. HOWEVER...BOWING LINE SEGMENTS OR LEWPS WITH TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE INTO THE EVENING HOURS DUE TO VERY STRONG LOW LEVEL WINDS AND DEEP LAYER SHEAR ACROSS THE AREA WITH CURVED LOW LEVEL HODOGRAPHS NOTED ON FORCAST SOUNDSING. VERY LARGE HAIL WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY WITH DISCRETE CELLS AS INSTABILITY WILL BE PUSHING BETWEEN 3000-4000 J/KG WITH PLENTY OF LOW LEVEL CAPE BELOW CLOUD BASE FOR POTENTIAL TORNADOGENESIS. SEVERAL OFFICES INCLUDING OURS ARE SENDING UP SPECIAL MIDDAY SOUNDINGS TO ASSESS OUR ENVIRONMENT AND POTENTIAL AND THE FEELING IS THIS COULD BE A BIG SEVERE WEATHER DAY. AFTER COLLABORATION...THE ENHANCED RISK WAS EXTENDED SOUTH ALL THE WAY INTO EASTERN CENTRAL TEXAS AND SOUTHEAST TEXAS DUE TO THE STRONG HODOGRAPHS AND INSTABILITY. ALL PARTIES SHOULD BE ON HIGH ALERT BEGINNING AFTER 2 PM AND CONTINUING THROUGH THIS EVENING FOR ALL MODES OF SEVERE WEATHER. A SQUALL LINE WILL EVOLVE BY THIS EVENING ACROSS OUR E/SE COUNTIES WITH THE A DAMAGING WIND THREAT BECOMING MORE DOMINANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0498 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1252 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2016 AREAS AFFECTED...NORTHERN AND CENTRAL TX CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY VALID 291752Z - 291945Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT SUMMARY...NEW THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED AS ONE OR MORE NORTH TO SOUTH ORIENTED BROKEN BANDS ACROSS CENTRAL INTO NORTH-CENTRAL TX...GENERALLY IN VICINITY AND WEST OF THE I-35 CORRIDOR. ALL SEVERE HAZARDS WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH SEVERE WEATHER WATCHES LIKELY FOR THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. DISCUSSION...SURFACE AND OBJECTIVE ANALYSES SHOWED RICH BOUNDARY-LAYER MOISTURE STREAMING TO THE NORTH/NORTHWEST THROUGH CENTRAL AND NORTHERN TX WITH SURFACE DEW POINTS IN THE LOWER 70S AS FAR NORTH AS THE DALLAS/FORT WORTH METROPLEX. GOES-14 1-MINUTE VISIBLE IMAGERY SHOWED CU FORMING AS N-S ORIENTED CLOUD STREETS ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR...AS SURFACE HEATING BENEATH STEEPENING LAPSE RATES IS RESULTING IN A VERY UNSTABLE AIR MASS /MLCAPE 2500-3000 J PER KG/. MOSAIC RADAR IMAGERY AND LIGHTNING DATA SHOWED ONE STORM HAD DEVELOPED IN HAYS COUNTY TX...WITH ADDITIONAL CONVECTION BECOMING DEEPER FARTHER WEST THROUGH NORTHWEST FROM KIMBLE TO ERATH COUNTIES TX. THIS LATTER CORRIDOR APPEARS TO BE OCCURRING ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF STRONGER FORCING FOR ASCENT APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS SHORTWAVE TROUGH. STRENGTHENING SLY LOW-LEVEL AND SWLY MID-UPPER LEVEL WINDS WILL RESULT IN DEEP-LAYER SHEAR FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS. AS THE ASCENT CONTINUES TO SPREAD EAST THIS AFTERNOON...ADDITIONAL DEEP MOIST CONVECTION IS EXPECTED WITH ALL SEVERE HAZARDS LIKELY GIVEN AFOREMENTIONED THERMODYNAMIC AND KINEMATIC FIELDS. ESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0497 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1251 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2016 AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS OF SRN AR/NRN LA/NERN TX/SERN OK CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE VALID 291751Z - 291945Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...60 PERCENT SUMMARY...THE AREA IS BEING MONITORED FOR INCREASING SVR TSTM POTENTIAL THIS AFTERNOON...AND A TORNADO WATCH MAY BE REQUIRED DURING THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO. DISCUSSION...CONVECTION CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE/INTENSITY FROM NERN TX TO NWRN LA ALONG A ZONE OF MODEST ISENTROPIC ASCENT...WITH ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY BEING SUSTAINED NWD FROM FAR SERN OK TO SRN AR. THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...MODEST ASCENT WILL CONTINUE AHEAD OF AN UPPER TROUGH APPROACHING THE SRN HIGH PLAINS. MEANWHILE...A MOISTURE-RICH BOUNDARY LAYER WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM NWD...WITH UPPER 60S TO AROUND 70F DEWPOINTS SUPPORTING MODERATE TO STRONG INSTABILITY. THE SHV VWP IS SAMPLING AROUND 40 KT OF DEEP SHEAR THAT WILL SUPPORT ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE STRUCTURES...INCLUDING SUPERCELL CLUSTERS. SVR WIND/HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE. LOW-LEVEL SHEAR WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR SOME TORNADO RISK...THOUGH NUMEROUS INTERACTING CELLS MAY TEMPER THE OVERALL TORNADO POTENTIAL. WITH CONTINUED DIURNAL DESTABILIZATION OF STORM INFLOW...STORM INTENSITY WILL LIKELY INCREASE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS...POTENTIALLY WARRANTING TORNADO WATCH ISSUANCE SOON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 okc.png is that from the god model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 RGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 124 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 105 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2016 THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL AND CENTRAL TEXAS * EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 105 PM UNTIL 1000 PM CDT. * PRIMARY THREATS INCLUDE... A FEW TORNADOES LIKELY SCATTERED LARGE HAIL LIKELY WITH ISOLATED VERY LARGE HAIL EVENTS TO 2.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER POSSIBLE SCATTERED DAMAGING WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE SUMMARY...THUNDERSTORMS ARE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP IN MULTIPLE BANDS ACROSS CENTRAL AND N CENTRAL TX. THE STORM ENVIRONMENT WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS WITH LARGE HAIL AND POTENTIALLY A FEW TORNADOES THIS AFTERNOON...AS WELL AS A FEW DAMAGING GUSTS. STORM COVERAGE WILL INCREASE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND THE SEVERE WEATHER RISK SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THIS EVENING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 is that from the god model? It's from the 12Z SPC WRF: http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mpyle/spcprod/12/ (So IMHO, yes. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Looking at vis sat, KFDR, and the latest HRRR runs, I still feel like the storms responsible for these ominous UH tracks in OK will probably be undercut and slightly elevated. But it will be close, and the sfc map is very hard to diagnose - even NWS OUN seems to be unsure what to make of it in their latest mesoscale discussion! Plus, we've seen tornadoes from storms right along advancing cold fronts plenty of times in C OK over the years - usually not long-track sigtors, but a threat still exists. FWIW, the 17z HRRR already has the sfc low on the Red River SW of Ardmore by 22z (5pm CDT), which is not very encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurora Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I haven't chased OK before, though I do wish to in a week and a half when I have vacation, this is a good tip in case I find myself in Frederick. Another note is that there's like one road through the Wichita Mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswx Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Another note is that there's like one road through the Wichita Mountains. Yeah, chasing down in the Lawton area is pretty rough. The one road that you speak of has a 45 mph speed limit because of the buffalo and antelope. Then you have Ft. Sill in which there aren't any roads that cut through there. I usually try to stay north of there whenever I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Looking at vis sat, KFDR, and the latest HRRR runs, I still feel like the storms responsible for these ominous UH tracks in OK will probably be undercut and slightly elevated. But it will be close, and the sfc map is very hard to diagnose - even NWS OUN seems to be unsure what to make of it in their latest mesoscale discussion! Plus, we've seen tornadoes from storms right along advancing cold fronts plenty of times in C OK over the years - usually not long-track sigtors, but a threat still exists. FWIW, the 17z HRRR already has the sfc low on the Red River SW of Ardmore by 22z (5pm CDT), which is not very encouraging. The cell west of FDR looks like it is catching up to the outflow boundary, once it starts to ingest that warm/moist air it should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Preliminary data from a friend's 18Z sounding launch across the Red River from Burkburnett, TX. https://twitter.com/RumblinMatt/status/726112873903063040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 A lot of VBV in the Frederick VWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjc3395 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Could be associated with mid-level wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 ESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0499 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0140 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2016 AREAS AFFECTED...SW/S-CNTRL/CNTRL OK...FAR NW/FAR N-CNTRL TX CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY VALID 291840Z - 291945Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT SUMMARY...SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF ALL SEVERE HAZARDS ARE PROBABLE FROM SW OK EWD/NEWD TO CNTRL/S-CNTRL OK AND FAR N-CNTRL TX. A TORNADO WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS SEVERE THREAT. DISCUSSION...RECENT GOES-14 1-MINUTE VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY REVEALS SCATTERED CLEARING ACROSS MUCH OF THIS REGION WITH THIS FILTERED SUNSHINE CONTRIBUTION TO A JUMP IN SURFACE TEMPERATURES FROM THE MID 60S AT 15Z TO LOW/MID 70S AT 18Z ALONG THE RED RIVER. DEWPOINTS HAVE ALSO INCREASED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS AS MOISTURE CONTINUES TO STREAM NWD. LATEST SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED THE LOW ABOUT 50 MI SSE OF CDS WITH A WARM FROM EXTENDING NEWD TOWARDS CHK AND THEN EWD TO ADR AND SEWD TOWARDS DEQ IN SE OK /DEMARCATED FAIRLY WELL BY THE 65 DEG F ISODROSOTHERM/. SURFACE ANALYSIS ALSO REVEALS A CONVERGENT WIND FIELD AND A MORE BAROCLINIC BOUNDARY EXTENDING FROM JUST S OF AXS NEWD TO BVO. OVERALL SEVERE THREAT...AND LOCALIZED TORNADO THREAT...WILL DEPEND LARGELY ON HOW THE SURFACE PATTERN EVOLVES OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. CURRENT EXPECTATION IS THAT THE BAROCLINIC BOUNDARY WILL ACT AS THE NRN BOUND TO MOISTURE ADVECTION...EFFECTIVELY BECOMING THE WARM FRONT AS SECONDARY SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS OCCURS IN THE VICINITY OF LOGAN COUNTY. CONVECTIVE INITIATION HAS ALREADY OCCURRED OVER SW OK WITH ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLE AS THE SURFACE LOW NEAR CDS CONTINUES EWD. MESOANALYSIS ESTIMATES MLCAPE EWD ALONG THE RED RIVER FROM SW OK IS 2000 J PER KG WITH EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR AROUND 40 KT. SOME BACKING IS NOTED AROUND 3 KM ON THE FDR AND TLX VAD PROFILES BUT BACKED SURFACE WINDS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO 0-1 KM SRH OVER 100 M2/S2. THIS THERMODYNAMIC AND KINEMATIC ENVIRONMENT IS SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF ALL SVR HAZARDS. A WW WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED TO COVER THIS THREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The cell west of FDR looks like it is catching up to the outflow boundary, once it starts to ingest that warm/moist air it should go. shouldn't take too long... Interestingly that cell would be on a similar trek as a lot of those intense UH tracks. Also no obvious VBV on the OUN VWP, so the wind profile should only get better as it progresses eastward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That cell west of KFDR , that Stebo was talking about, is now sitting right on the OFB. Once it starts to ingest it that UH track shown by many high res models might verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Wall cloud with the Altus storm per Charles Peek's stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That cell west of KFDR , that Stebo was talking about, is now sitting right on the OFB. Once it starts to ingest it that UH track shown by many high res models might verify. that supercell has a pretty nice radar presentation as of now.EDIT: 60/20 on the new TOR watch... Includes OKC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Definite interaction with the OFB can easily be seen on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Wall cloud with the Altus storm per Charles Peek's stream. Very strong rotation aloft with that cell on tilts 2 and 3 from KFDR. Also showing up from KTLX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 If it deviates a hair to the east it will produce in a big way, it is so close right now to getting to and ahead of the OFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Cell out in front could be impeding the progression of the supercell. It is stuck right where inflow should be entering the storm. However the supercell looks to overtake it and conditions for a tornado should improve shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjc3395 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 If it deviates a hair to the east it will produce in a big way, it is so close right now to getting to and ahead of the OFB. Should deviate some with supercell dynamic effects beginning to take over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Pretty volatile 18z sounding at FWD here, just introduce some surface backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 A storm is getting going around Denton. This could develop rotation soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 A storm is getting going around Denton. This could develop rotation soon. Speak of the devil, latest scan shows rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherextreme Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah, chasing down in the Lawton area is pretty rough. The one road that you speak of has a 45 mph speed limit because of the buffalo and antelope. Then you have Ft. Sill in which there aren't any roads that cut through there. I usually try to stay north of there whenever I can. Charles Peek lost control of his car on one of those roads driving 25 mph http://www.stormviewlive.com/charles-peek.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 79/70 at Lawton with backed se winds. This cell should really take off it it plays the warm front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Wonder why there isn't any data posted yet from the OUN special sounding. They were either doing it at 1830 or 1900Z I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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