BowMeHunter Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Keep in mind this is a very unusual pattern we have been in too. Think of what is common and or normal. Be it *normal* clippers dropping in from Canada, Lake cutters OV lows etc. Then there is LES as well. Makes it tough no doubt. And something that should be thought about all winter I think and see what the #'s of posters are region wide at the end of the season and work from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Nam gives Indiana nothing. Man what a switch 24 hours can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Nam gives Indiana nothing. Man what a switch 24 hours can make. if it can switch like that, just wait another 24hrs...maybe it will switch again for you. less then 24hrs ago gfs gave me 6 inches, since then 1-2 . Only thing im hoping for now is if anyone miss's in the central/OV, we can be in aww of an epic storm on the EC. It would suck if it was a bust for most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omahawx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 NAM nows gives me the 3-5" range...perfect christmas gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 if it can switch like that, just wait another 24hrs...maybe it will switch again for you. less then 24hrs ago gfs gave me 6 inches, since then 1-2 . Only thing im hoping for now is if anyone miss's in the central/OV, we can be in aww of an epic storm on the EC. It would suck if it was a bust for most If it can't hit the central/OV then we need to root for an ec storm to get this block outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 We've had a pretty snowy December as it has been but what the heck, if its going to snow, give us a dumpin If it continues to slow down, are our chances greater in the OV it will lift a bit? I noticed snow chances are completely removed from northern Indiana now, all clear for the next 7 days in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 We've had a pretty snowy December as it has been but what the heck, if its going to snow, give us a dumpin If it continues to slow down, are our chances greater in the OV it will lift a bit? I noticed snow chances are completely removed from northern Indiana now, all clear for the next 7 days in fact. You have a much better chance than me lol. I've got like a 2% chance lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Latest HPC maps are out. Barring major changes, Central Missouri is not looking too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Wow! I just woke up and checked the last few pages and am wondering what the heck happened? This miss has created a regional war. I was already feeling bad because after thinking I would at last get a decent snow, the rug was pulled out from under me. Then I have to wade through a bunch of infighting. I really enjoyed having all of us posting in one thread, from MO to MN to OH to KY. Yes, it is a little burdensome to sift through the thread, but I thought we were a better bunch than some of the EC dumbasses. I guess I was wrong. I'll just go back to lurking now and read whichever thread I decide pertains to me since I'll be in no man's land anyway. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amos83 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 LP is getting ready to move onshore in S. Califorian and WOW does it look impressive. WV loop already has moisture screaming into TX. Even with a very southern track I have a feeling this guy is going to draw up a ton of moisture. The next 24-36 hours will be interesting to see what it decides to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_IN_Wx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 So...just another "clipper system" that misses northern IN, MI, and northern OH to the south and west. I think I enjoyed the 97/98 winter more when it was pretty much in the 40s and 50s everyday. Looking forward to the dimise of this block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Wow! I just woke up and checked the last few pages and am wondering what the heck happened? This miss has created a regional war. I was already feeling bad because after thinking I would at last get a decent snow, the rug was pulled out from under me. Then I have to wade through a bunch of infighting. I really enjoyed having all of us posting in one thread, from MO to MN to OH to KY. Yes, it is a little burdensome to sift through the thread, but I thought we were a better bunch than some of the EC dumbasses. I guess I was wrong. I'll just go back to lurking now and read whichever thread I decide pertains to me since I'll be in no man's land anyway. Carry on. lol, when you wake up to 7 new pages of posts in a thread for a storm that's not supposed to get ANY of us, you know there was some drama. And I'm not a huge fan of dividing up this forum, at least not yet. Yes, we seem to have a lot more members making a lot more posts, especially during active periods. However, the storm threads would be a lot more efficient, and a lot easier to read, if we implemented something similar, although less restrictive, to SEP. With the December 12 storm, there were tons of "how much for x" and "what does it look like for x", plus the general banter. If we severed that kind of stuff, those threads would be easier to digest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUBlizzicane2007 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Ugh, LMK is insisting on a more southerly path now thanks to the models. I wanted Louisville to get the cream of the snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimChgo9 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I don't mind our region, but it is quite large. I don't mind the big region, but it does get cluttered sometimes with folks talking about storms in completely differing regions. It is hard to analyze a storm when it will have either no impact for one region or a completely different impact (for instance, snow in one region, rain in another). It makes following topics in a thread difficult. It gets confusing sometimes, so many posters from many different places around "Central/Western" part of the country, sometimes you have to check a person's location to get an idea of what area they are referring to. Perhaps if storm threads were divided up between MW, GL, and OV... I don't know. We have many knowledgeable people in this forum, and I would hate to pigeon hole any one of the experts when they have a wealth of information to offer... How about this: A general storm thread to discuss the storm's dynamics, possible track, and other technical stuff.. and then MW, GL, and OV "weenie" threads for everyone to post their feelings, wishcasts, complaints, and such regarding the storm.. Just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I may need a seat on the bus. Are there any tickets still avaiable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amos83 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Verbatim Bufkit data gives me almost 5" which is 2 more than it showed last night. Too bad it has a lot chance of panning out.. StnID: cai Model: nam Run: 20101222/1200 Cloud RH threshold: 85% Sleet Ratio: 2:1 || CarSnowTool Beta 5.4 101225/0000Z 60 03007KT 31.6F SNOW 18:1| 0.1|| 0.1 0.004|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 ----------------------------------------------+----++-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 101225/0100Z 61 03008KT 31.6F SNOW 10:1| 0.1|| 0.2 0.008|| 0.01 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0200Z 62 04008KT 32.0F SNOW 9:1| 0.1|| 0.2 0.008|| 0.02 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0300Z 63 04008KT 32.0F SNOW 10:1| 0.0|| 0.3 0.004|| 0.02 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0400Z 64 04007KT 31.5F 0:1| 0.0|| 0.3 0.000|| 0.02 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 0| 0| 0 101225/0500Z 65 03007KT 30.7F SNOW 15:1| 0.2|| 0.4 0.012|| 0.04 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0600Z 66 03007KT 30.9F SNOW 16:1| 0.9|| 1.3 0.055|| 0.09 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 ----------------------------------------------+----++-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 101225/0700Z 67 03007KT 30.7F SNOW 15:1| 0.6|| 1.9 0.043|| 0.13 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0800Z 68 03007KT 30.7F SNOW 13:1| 0.4|| 2.3 0.028|| 0.16 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/0900Z 69 03006KT 30.7F SNOW 13:1| 0.4|| 2.7 0.031|| 0.19 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1000Z 70 03007KT 30.7F SNOW 13:1| 0.3|| 3.0 0.024|| 0.22 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1100Z 71 02007KT 30.6F SNOW 14:1| 0.3|| 3.3 0.020|| 0.24 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1200Z 72 02007KT 30.6F SNOW 14:1| 0.2|| 3.5 0.016|| 0.25 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date/hour FHr Wind SfcT Ptype SRat|Snow||TotSN QPF ||TotQPF Sleet||TotPL FZRA||TotZR S%| I%| L% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 101225/1300Z 73 02008KT 30.2F SNOW 15:1| 0.3|| 3.8 0.020|| 0.27 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1400Z 74 02008KT 30.2F SNOW 15:1| 0.4|| 4.2 0.024|| 0.30 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1500Z 75 02008KT 30.2F SNOW 13:1| 0.3|| 4.5 0.024|| 0.32 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1600Z 76 01008KT 30.7F SNOW 13:1| 0.2|| 4.6 0.012|| 0.33 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1700Z 77 36008KT 31.5F SNOW 12:1| 0.1|| 4.7 0.008|| 0.34 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 101225/1800Z 78 36008KT 32.0F SNOW 15:1| 0.1|| 4.8 0.008|| 0.35 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 ----------------------------------------------+----++-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 101225/1900Z 79 36008KT 32.9F SNOW 16:1| 0.1|| 4.9 0.004|| 0.35 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 100| 0| 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GFS looks like a strong N stream comes in quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 LOL GFS doing something funky this run. Haven't we all said that for the past 15 GFS runs???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hold that seat!!! Around .10 for Cincy.... I atleast get a flurry now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 actually closer to .15 for CVG with decent ratios that 1-2 I will take it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Haven't we all said that for the past 15 GFS runs???? yeah it looks like it's faster and stronger with the N Stream and puts more emphasis on that. For my region that means we go from 2-4" of snow areawide on the NAM, to 35-40 degrees and some rain on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 yeah it looks like it's faster and stronger with the N Stream and puts more emphasis on that. For my region that means we go from 2-4" of snow areawide on the NAM, to 35-40 degrees and some rain on the GFS. Where is your area? Just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GFS looks like a strong N stream comes in quicker Now if only it would do that a day or two earlier.. EDIT: 958mb?!?! I definitely wish it would do that earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 That was a step in the right direction..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GFS has been bumping up qpf amounts in eastern IA/western IL the last few runs, NAM not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Less than two days away from the event and the NAM and GFS couldn't be more different for me. The NAM has dry northeast flow holding the snow back in southwest Iowa while the GFS, which had done the same thing last night, has brought back the snow to the rest of Iowa. The 12z has me back up to 0.50". Unfortunately, I have to lean toward the dry NAM, but I'll hope for the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Where is your area? Just wondering SW MO/NE OK/NW AR/SE KS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Less than two days away from the event and the NAM and GFS couldn't be more different for me. The NAM has dry northeast flow holding the snow back in southwest Iowa while the GFS, which had done the same thing last night, has brought back the snow to the rest of Iowa. The 12z has me back up to 0.50". Unfortunately, I have to lean toward the dry NAM, but I'll hope for the GFS. Actually I think its much slower, What was supposed to be a christmas storm un in OH were looking at, now a lot of the models doesn't have it even getting over near here til the 26th now. So you have a little extra time at least, maybe something can happen for you. The 0z run of the gfs gave nothing to all of Ohio, and now its reaching ILN. So you could get lucky for sure in IA. Good luck. Hope someone gets something out of this waste of energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 NAM= what the heck are you thinking snow.. GFS= it isn't much, I'm in the recession, but it'll give ya a white Christmas... Needless to say of the US models i'm sticking my stocking stuffers in the GFS box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Less than two days away from the event and the NAM and GFS couldn't be more different for me. The NAM has dry northeast flow holding the snow back in southwest Iowa while the GFS, which had done the same thing last night, has brought back the snow to the rest of Iowa. The 12z has me back up to 0.50". Unfortunately, I have to lean toward the dry NAM, but I'll hope for the GFS. NAM has a weaker N Stream while the GFS has it stronger and faster. Puts more emphasis on that. NAM has an 850ish low over SW OK, N TX area @ 54 while the GFS almost has one over NW Missouri due to the stronger N Stream energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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