CoastalWx Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I had 44.5". The Hingham guy had 37.4". I know he lives near the water, but the totals this year seemed quite different...he may measure once daily which made a difference in marginal events, esp on 2/5. I don't know..but it bothers me when I contradict him by a decent amount. I've tried to get ruler pics in the area where I now finally feel good to measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I was around 40" if I recall. Above normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Mile stone in this fledgling transition season; the GFS's first extended range winter pattern is officially charted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 8 hours ago, dryslot said: That date over the years has produced Yea, that's what I meant...too bad Hermine didn't have another 24-36 hrs...damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 16 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: ...over 6 weeks. During that period they also had over 100 inches of snow... 16 hours ago, powderfreak said: It truly is something special. That's as rare as it gets. I guess I hadn’t thought about that number in a while, but 100”+ in 6 weeks is really quite a feat (more than double a sites annual snowfall average in 6 weeks). Looking through the snowfall numbers for my site, I’m hard pressed to find a stretch of 100” in 6 weeks. I’d say it’s fairly common for the mountains around here to pull that off, even in just a month based on the number of 50”+ months I see in my data set, but has such a stretch with 100” ever happened at any other low elevation sites in New England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 12 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I was around 40" if I recall. Above normal. 45.3" to be exact. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 hours ago, J.Spin said: I guess I hadn’t thought about that number in a while, but 100”+ in 6 weeks is really quite a feat (more than double a sites annual snowfall average in 6 weeks). Looking through the snowfall numbers for my site, I’m hard pressed to find a stretch of 100” in 6 weeks. I’d say it’s fairly common for the mountains around here to pull that off, even in just a month based on the number of 50”+ months I see in my data set, but has such a stretch with 100” ever happened at any other low elevation sites in New England? Same winter, Machias @ 20' asl: Jan 25-Feb 16 - 96.9" in 23 days Jan 25-Feb 26 - 115.5" in 33 days adding 9 more days only gains another 4.6". And while I don't have daily snowfall for EPO, their winter total was about 12" more than at Machias. The Machias average is 73", so no doubling. Of course, the higher the average, the harder to double - CAR's top winter is 20"+ below doubling its avg, so its top 6 weeks must be way short. December 5th!!! That date over the years has produced Location! Dec 5th at my place is the only day of that month having had less snowfall than the 25th. Only 1.1" (in 2009) in 18 Decembers, plus a couple days with a trace. Unlike Christmastime, 12/5 has been dry (only 0.06" in 18 yr) rather than wet/Grinchey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 16 minutes ago, tamarack said: Same winter, Machias @ 20' asl: Jan 25-Feb 16 - 96.9" in 23 days Jan 25-Feb 26 - 115.5" in 33 days adding 9 more days only gains another 4.6". And while I don't have daily snowfall for EPO, their winter total was about 12" more than at Machias. The Machias average is 73", so no doubling. Of course, the higher the average, the harder to double - CAR's top winter is 20"+ below doubling its avg, so its top 6 weeks must be way short. December 5th!!! That date over the years has produced Location! Dec 5th at my place is the only day of that month having had less snowfall than the 25th. Only 1.1" (in 2009) in 18 Decembers, plus a couple days with a trace. Unlike Christmastime, 12/5 has been dry (only 0.06" in 18 yr) rather than wet/Grinchey. Christmas was really paltry here until 2002...when we got 13.5" out of that storm (10.5" officially on 12/25 itself and 3 more inches fell after midnight). For ORH, the previous record for Christmas going back to the 1890s was 5.8" in 1978 in a storm that wasn't even all snow (it turned to sleet and freezing rain). Before Christmas finally came through with that 10.5" officially that day, only December 18th had a lower daily snowfall average for any day in the 2nd half of December. For the entire month, only December 1st, 2nd, and 10th were worse....certainly the 1st and 2nd aren't huge surprises. To take it one step further, the 5.8" record on the 25th (before 2002 of course) was the lowest daily snowfall record that deep into the winter until one found a 5.5" record on January 31st. So yeah, Christmas hasn't been a friendly day for big snowfalls...at least outside of that 2002 storm which obviously skunked your area further north. (there was a sharp cutoff though...not too far to your south did pretty well) I'm sure your region probably had some better luck on Christmas Day much further back before your own records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: So yeah, Christmas hasn't been a friendly day for big snowfalls...at least outside of that 2002 storm which obviously skunked your area further north. (there was a sharp cutoff though...not too far to your south did pretty well) I'm sure your region probably had some better luck on Christmas Day much further back before your own records. 12/25 is one of the lower average snowfall days in December at the Farmington co-op, and the greatest storm on the 25th, 14" in 1970, actually fell on the 24th but was captured by the obs time of 7 AM on 12/25. Number 2 for 12/25 is 5.0" back in 1906. The bolded was very true - a forecast 8-12" produced 1" both at my place and the co-op, while dumping 8" just 10 miles SE in Belgrade and 15" another 15 miles farther in Augusta. That 1" on 12/25/2002 is Farmington's only measurable snowfall on the past 27 Christmases. Edit: The 6.0" recorded in Farmington as 12/26/1997 almost certainly fell on 12/25, as the switch from 7 AM obs to midnight came about Y2K. Still, 1" in 19 years is pretty slim for Christmas snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Seems like another big acorn drop year. Or I just might not be used to being pelted in my driveway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Get your shovels, plows, blowers ready-we're heading for epicosity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Get your shovels, plows, blowers ready-we're heading for epicosity... You aren't ginx, why you jinxing sht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Jerry is honking............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It seems NWS BOX has improved the past snowfall events page since last I visited it. I like the color maps and calendar search. http://www.weather.gov/box/pastevents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 You aren't ginx, why you jinxing sht?Check out my record. When I go big I win. 2014-15 I called for record snows as early as August. 2010-11 I was confident of a big winter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 #jerryknows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 14 hours ago, dryslot said: Jerry is honking............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 get your flashlights, cured meats, blankets and candles ready ...we're headed for ice-city. does that count? what if we get 30" of sleet and 7" of accreted ice across four record breaking region -panned ice storms of a winter - doesn't that count as an epic winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Today:. Licking my chops..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 On 9/2/2016 at 1:05 PM, ORH_wxman said: Christmas was really paltry here until 2002...when we got 13.5" out of that storm (10.5" officially on 12/25 itself and 3 more inches fell after midnight). For ORH, the previous record for Christmas going back to the 1890s was 5.8" in 1978 in a storm that wasn't even all snow (it turned to sleet and freezing rain). Before Christmas finally came through with that 10.5" officially that day, only December 18th had a lower daily snowfall average for any day in the 2nd half of December. For the entire month, only December 1st, 2nd, and 10th were worse....certainly the 1st and 2nd aren't huge surprises. To take it one step further, the 5.8" record on the 25th (before 2002 of course) was the lowest daily snowfall record that deep into the winter until one found a 5.5" record on January 31st. So yeah, Christmas hasn't been a friendly day for big snowfalls...at least outside of that 2002 storm which obviously skunked your area further north. (there was a sharp cutoff though...not too far to your south did pretty well) I'm sure your region probably had some better luck on Christmas Day much further back before your own records. December 26th-27th is a big day for snowstorms in the NE... 1872 from the NY Tribune... http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-5/ 1872 from the NY Sun... http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-1/ 1890 from the Evening World... http://chroniclingam...-26/ed-1/seq-1/ 1890 storm from the NY Tribune... http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-2/ 1890 from the NY Sun... http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingam...-27/ed-1/seq-2/ 1894 from the NY Tribune... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1894-12-27/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1894-12-27/ed-1/seq-4/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1894-12-27/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1894-12-27/ed-1/seq-3/ 1933 from the Brooklyn Eagle... http://fultonhistory...cale - 4142.pdf http://fultonhistory...cale - 4144.pdf 1947... http://fultonhistory...le A (2251).pdf http://fultonhistory...le A (2253).pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Enjoyed a wonderful weenie trip or ORH airport yesterday w the girlfriend.....gorgeous. I certainly see nothing to be pessimistic about, but learned a lesson last year, so all ears to other ideas. Haven't posted on it yet, but I like what I see in the analogs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 It definitely would be nice to get an early start this year. Snow on Christmas Day itself would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Christmas 1883 was the whitest Christmas in NYC...my first white Christmas was in 1959...1959, 1961, 1963, 1966 had snowstorms 6" or more just before Christmas... 1961 in Boston... http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?14100 1883... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1883-12-26/ed-1/seq-5/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1883-12-26/ed-1/seq-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 We didn't have snow on Christmas Day in 1995, but that's probably the deepest "White Christmas" I can remember. We had about 10-12" on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 18 hours ago, uncle W said: December 26th-27th is a big day for snowstorms in the NE... 1947... http://fultonhistory...le A (2251).pdf http://fultonhistory...le A (2253).pdf Maybe you can untangle the numbers riddle for the 1947 storm. My data from the Utah Climate Center for 12/25-29/47 is below, with more recent data downloaded from the CLIMOD2 site to its right. Temps are identical form both, as is total precip and snowfall. Just the timing changes: 12/25....33...19.......0........0........1".....CLIMOD.........0.........0...2" 12/26....31...25...2.36"...25.5"...msg....CLIMOD....0.26".....3.7"...4" 12/27....35...29...0.04".....0.3"...msg....CLIMOD....2.14"...22.1"...26" 12/28....33...26...0.03".....0.3"...msg....CLIMOD.........0.........0....25" 12/29....28...21.......0........0......msg....CLIMOD.....0.03"....0.3"...24" Added note: The UCC timing fits with my old Uncle Wethbee Wx Almanacs. The CLIMOD timing would perhaps fit for a 7A obs time, as the storm began in the wee hours of 12/26 and ended not quite 24 hr later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 56 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We didn't have snow on Christmas Day in 1995, but that's probably the deepest "White Christmas" I can remember. We had about 10-12" on the ground. Yeah we had something like 18" OTG in ORH that Christmas. Next closest for me personally is probably 1997 just two days after the 18" 12/23 storm. It had probably compacted to about 12-14" by then, but that's still good enough for 2nd place. 2007 had a refrozen glacier that was probably about 8-10" after the 12/24/07 Grinch Storm. 2002 did have over a foot OTG at one point, but not until late at night...in the morning at 12z we had about 2" right as the snow started. You must have had pretty good snow OTG there in 2009...that was a good storm for SE MA. I think we had about 8" OTG...about 6" of sand on top of a 2" glacier. Going before my time, the best years are probably 1970 (crushed in the 10 days leading up to Christmas...think 2007 and 2008 without the Grinch storm), 1975 (back to back big SWFEs on 12/20-12/22), and 1961. 1961 had the monster 12/23-12/24 storm. Probably one of the more underrated storms in eastern SNE history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah we had something like 18" OTG in ORH that Christmas. Next closest for me personally is probably 1997 just two days after the 18" 12/23 storm. It had probably compacted to about 12-14" by then, but that's still good enough for 2nd place. 2007 had a refrozen glacier that was probably about 8-10" after the 12/24/07 Grinch Storm. 2002 did have over a foot OTG at one point, but not until late at night...in the morning at 12z we had about 2" right as the snow started. You must have had pretty good snow OTG there in 2009...that was a good storm for SE MA. I think we had about 8" OTG...about 6" of sand on top of a 2" glacier. Going before my time, the best years are probably 1970 (crushed in the 10 days leading up to Christmas...think 2007 and 2008 without the Grinch storm), 1975 (back to back big SWFEs on 12/20-12/22), and 1961. 1961 had the monster 12/23-12/24 storm. Probably one of the more underrated storms in eastern SNE history. Tallest snowpack for 12/25 here is 14" in 2008 - was 17" the day before but a (lower case) Grinch - upper 30s with -RA - knocked it down a bit. Had about the same in NNJ on 12/25/66, the day after about 15" with thunder. Tops at Farmington co-op is 44" in 1970. That's probably 18" more than for any Christmas at Fort Kent; tops there is probably mid-20s in 1983 (data is elsewhere atm.) It's also 18" higher than the co-op's #2, 26" in both 1972 and 1995. In about 75 years of record (snow depth data is hit-or-miss 1941-65, absent before '41), they've had 20"+ on 12/25 only 6 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 On September 4, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Typhoon Tip said: get your flashlights, cured meats, blankets and candles ready ...we're headed for ice-city. does that count? what if we get 30" of sleet and 7" of accreted ice across four record breaking region -panned ice storms of a winter - doesn't that count as an epic winter? There isn't a poster here that doesn't like/want a massive ice storm. Man are we overdue for one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Who is we? There is more to SNE weather than Tolland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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