Guest Pamela Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Jersey City had 0.25 at 5am 1/4 inch of rain or 1/4 inch of snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I have been reading these forums for months and enjoy the posts and insights very much! Always loved weather especially winter weather,,,and you guys have helped explain a lot to me ( as I said in post number one I'm a novice ) so thank you,,,,,,trial period will be over soon but I will probably be back in the Fall to sign up for a membership,,and then you guys can once again tell me how I am reading computer runs and radars incorrectly,,,lol In keeping with the thread grass ,deck and cars were covered here in Rockland but not much else, kids went to bed with flakes falling and were disappointed no school delay today,lol. Weren't we all,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I have been reading these forums for months and enjoy the posts and insights very much! Always loved weather especially winter weather,,,and you guys have helped explain a lot to me ( as I said in post number one I'm a novice ) so thank you,,,,,,trial period will be over soon but I will probably be back in the Fall to sign up for a membership,,and then you guys can once again tell me how I am reading computer runs and radars incorrectly,,,lol In keeping with the thread grass ,deck and cars were covered here in Rockland but not much else, kids went to bed with flakes falling and were disappointed no school delay today,lol. Weren't we all,,, Welcome to the weather board...it is nice to have you among us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithB Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I often go to the intellicast snow cover maps the morning after a storm to see what areas got how much snow...( I got about 0.2 inches of snow here in rockland). Im seeing on todays snow cover map that pretty much the entire NYC metro area has a 4-8 inch swatch as of 9:37am this morning. Now clearly that's not the case. Does anyone know why their map is so off? Is it usually this off? Also, does anyone know of a good reliable snow cover map that can show what areas have what snow depths daily? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Welcome to the weather board...it is nice to have you among us! Thank you Pam,,,,,best of luck with the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Solid 2.5" in wantagh put us at 44" on the season. We were below 32 for a good portion as we stopped melting off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Solid 2.5" in wantagh put us at 44" on the season. We were below 32 for a good portion as we stopped melting off. Two El Nino back-loaded winters in a row with all the accumulation coming after January 20th and extending into March. Decembers have been really lackluster for snow here going back to 2011. We got lucky for about 10 days in December 2013 when the -EPO was able to overpower the raging +NAO/+AO pattern. After two great Decembers in 2010 and 2011, the +NAO/+AO pattern has generally been running the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Believe me; their measurements are better than they once were....up to 2006...they had a tendency to under measure severely....it has gotten better over the last 10 years. Same circumstances applied at Islip...they have been fairly accurate since 2007. Both had long term averages prior to 2007 that were at least 5 to 7 inches removed from reality. BDR for the Blizzard of 96 had 14 inches. I'm 7 miles from there and we had a solid 20-25. I could list another 10 examples. Just ridiculous. Not sure I've seen an improvement since 2006 though. Only big event I've ever seen measured decently was the blizzard of Feb 2013-they came in with 30 inches and that seemed spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Today's climate summary indicated Central Park picked up 0.5" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Today's climate summary indicated Central Park picked up 0.5" of snow.So 32.3 for the season correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 So 32.3 for the season correct? 32.1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Today's climate summary indicated Central Park picked up 0.5" of snow. LOL...it was quite the feet of legerdemain how they magically transmuted from a "trace" at 8 AM on all previous PNS's...until the latest one...which now lists them with "0.5" inches at that same 8 AM. This implies the physically impossible...0.5 inches falling at one instantaneous moment in time. For the eyes of Pamela see everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 LOL...it was quite the feet of legerdemain how they magically transmuted from a "trace" at 8 AM on all previous PNS's...until the latest one...which now lists them with "0.5" inches at that same 8 AM. This implies the physically impossible...0.5 inches falling at one instantaneous moment in time. For the eyes of Pamela see everything... More than likely, the 8 am figure was incorrect. A coating on grassy surfaces > a trace. It would be interesting to know whether the 0.5" figure was assigned based on LGA's measurement or whether it was the figure when the snow stopped falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 More than likely, the 8 am figure was incorrect. A coating on grassy surfaces > a trace. It would be interesting to know whether the 0.5" figure was assigned based on LGA's measurement or whether it was the figure when the snow stopped falling. Soo sad when snow amounts must be "assigned"...even when an observer is on active duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Soo sad when snow amounts must be "assigned"...even when an observer is on active duty. I strongly agree. Hopefully, that's not what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Soo sad when snow amounts must be "assigned"...even when an observer is on active duty. it seems like most of the errors (of omission) always happen late at night and early am hours...It makes me think who ever is responsible to take measurements is either not there or asleep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 it seems like most of the errors (of omission) always happen late at night and early am hours...It makes me think who ever is responsible to take measurements is either not there or asleep... There are third and fourth possibilities here. If there is anyone on duty and that is questionable at various times, be it the Conservancy or Zoo, they are either incompetent or they just don't give a sh!t. I have found through the years the latter to be mostly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Lol there were some cartops with a bit of snow when I woke up...virtually nothing stuck as I thought...marginal temps and marginal rates. Why people keep buying into the snowier models and tossing the least snowy is our great mystery. March snow is not about hugging snow maps...kudos to NWS in Mt Holly for their accurate reasoned forecast What models where thrown out? All of them had a inch at best for u Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 We didn't get more snow because of the lack of precip. Not the temps. NYC metro saw under .15" of total precip. That has nothing to do with climatology or sun angle. Lol at people trying to spin it that it was because of temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 We didn't get more snow because of the lack of precip. Not the temps. NYC metro saw under .15" of total precip. That has nothing to do with climatology or sun angle. Lol at people trying to spin it that it was because of temps. Uncomfortable truths that reveal unpleasant realities are *always* denied with the utmost vigor... Urban areas on the Eastern Seaboard between 39 N & 41 N have a very difficult time seeing accumulating snowfalls after 15 March. The climate record is very illustrative of this assertion. We can deny the veracity of this fact; but ultimately, we are just fooling ourselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Uncomfortable truths that reveal unpleasant realities are *always* denied with the utmost vigor... Urban areas on the Eastern Seaboard between 39 N & 41 N have a very difficult time seeing accumulating snowfalls after 15 March. The climate record is very illustrative of this assertion. We can deny the veracity of this fact; but ultimately, we are just fooling ourselves... Of course. But with this specific storm, it was the lack of precip. Not the temps. LI saw more snow because of the qpf amount. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Of course. But with this specific storm, it was the lack of precip. Not the temps. LI saw more snow because of the qpf amount. Simple. Last year we had 6-8 inches on 3/21 and some of it was during the day. It's all about QPF and to a secondary extent day vs night this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Soo sad when snow amounts must be "assigned"...even when an observer is on active duty. some of these observers are not that good. See Central Park and BDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Last year we had 6-8 inches on 3/21 and some of it was during the day. It's all about QPF and to a secondary extent day vs night this time of year. Of course. Get the rates high enough and it will accumulate in June at 12pm. We had about 2.5" in Eastern nassua but it fell so slow it never accumulated on the pavement. Even it was January I think we were looking at about 3-6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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