UnionWeatherWx Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Read Dsnowx's post. We're on the same page. Anyway, my area received a HECS, we are well above average in snowfall, we went below zero and got my first legit severe storm in a long long time. Winter isn't suppose to be known for severe storms, not to sure how that contributes to your score? To each their own, as orangecounty said though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Winter isn't suppose to be known for severe storms, not to sure how that contributes to your score? To each their own, as orangecounty said though. Was mostly joking. Still, I got my first severe storm since the late 1990s. Happy belated birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Was mostly joking. Still, I got my first severe storm since the late 1990s. Happy belated birthday. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Agree. C is a good call right now. I will upgrade it to a B if we do get more snow next month . Over an inch yesterday to get near 40 so B- is my grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ended up with 32 on the nose. Will keep it as a C+ Looking forward to warmth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 C+ Didnt get quite the HECS that most of you got, but 2 solid snowstorms, an awesome winter thunderstorm and lack of brutal cold made it an ok winter for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ict1523 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 C+ It was a warm winter (despite the -1F reading), and outside of the one major storm, there was barely any snow. I value sustained cold and snowcover over one big blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowBlitzkrieg Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 B+ December was awful but the January blizzard was amazing, the whole week before tracking it, the weekend before where it started showing up on every model is something i'll never forget. The storm itself was perfect, happening during the day and on a weekend where I could enjoy it. I really couldn't have dreamed up a better scenario. The storm on the Friday before the Super Bowl was also pretty good, I got about 8 inches here. So, one HECS, another SECS and we got below zero, it's unfair to ask for more than that while living on Long Island. I definitely value getting one big storm over a bunch of smaller ones like last year, because those end up making for annoying driving conditions and I have a long commute to work and my 2007 Civic isn't all that great in the snow, haha (though I do enjoy them, as well). Last 6 winters for me: 10-11: A 11-12: F 12-13: B 13-14: B 14-15: B+ 15-16: B+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Is there a letter grade for poop? I guess a D- would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 B The Good: 2 Winter Storm Warning level events that verified, each with 10"+ (14.4"/10.4"). 1 Advisory level event that verified, 4"+ (4.1"). All storms increased in snow amount/intensity with model runs leading up to the storm, positive busts. Extreme cold with well below zero temperatures and wind chills approaching -30, Wind Chill Warning verified. Snow storms were daytime storms with 2-3"/hr rates Above average snowfall ~32" and counting. Many days with high temperatures coming in less than 32F. The Bad: No sustained cold. Lots of cutters and rain throughout the winter. Ski season was awful. Not many storms to track on models. The Ugly: Record breaking warm December and very very warm going into winter. No snow throughout the holidays. Christmas/New Years it didnt feel like winter at all. Snow pack/retention was horrid most snow from storms melted very quickly. 2nd warmest met winter on record. Depending on how the rest of March goes this will either be upgraded to B+/A- or remain at B. I have a feeling this will be one of the highest scores given in the NE sub-forum as most of them had just the worst winter imaginable and I'm coming in with higher amounts than many places in MA, VT, and NH. The worst winter imaginable (F) would be 2001-2002. 7" of snow season total with one advisory (barely) level event (at night) that melted the next day. Warm throughout the entire winter and nearly 0 days <32F. An A+ would be something like 2010-2011. Extreme snow pack, back to back storms, 30"+ storm, cold etc.. Last season was an A/A- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsplex Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 A++ warm till January, then one serious storm, one brutal cold snap and now it seems to be over. I wish every winter was like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 C+ The January blizzard saved this from being a D+/C- grade. Overall I had high hopes for late January and February snowfalls but with the exception of the blizzard I am disappointed overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 B-. Any winter with a 2 foot blizzard avoids a C grade in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Still sticking with my B+ 42" total so far Spring birds are chirping hard. And I just turned over the soil in my veggie garden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 B+ 38 or so inches of snow, not terrible cold, hit below zero. Also saw some good winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 B- or C+. Despite the "official" numbers we got maybe 15" of snow in mid-Westchester. And We did have the five-day cold snap in February, culminating in a subzero morning and a nice front-end dump of snow during the warmup. Otherwise, torchy December and mild weather the rest of the time made it mediocre; not a fail like 1971-2, 1972-3, 1975-6, 1988-9, 1990-1, 1991-2, 1996-7, 1997-8, 2001-2, 2011-2 and whatever other abortions I am forgetting, but nothing special either. The readers of the record books will be sorely disappointed in the rest of the winter, other than the high points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 B- or C+. Despite the "official" numbers we got maybe 15" of snow in mid-Westchester. And We did have the five-day cold snap in February, culminating in a subzero morning and a nice front-end dump of snow during the warmup. Otherwise, torchy December and mild weather the rest of the time made it mediocre; not a fail like 1971-2, 1972-3, 1975-6, 1988-9, 1990-1, 1991-2, 1996-7, 1997-8, 2001-2, 2011-2 and whatever other abortions I am forgetting, but nothing special either. The readers of the record books will be sorely disappointed in the rest of the winter, other than the high points. 2006-07 & 2007-08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2006-07 & 2007-08. I left those out since February 2007 featured the Valentine's Day sleet-fest, spectacular if not pretty and a good dump in March (that cancelled my older son's birthday party). February 23, 2008, I believe also had a good snowstorm. But I was wavering on those two, I'll admit. 1999-2000 comes closer to an "official bummer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 B- or C+. Despite the "official" numbers we got maybe 15" of snow in mid-Westchester. And We did have the five-day cold snap in February, culminating in a subzero morning and a nice front-end dump of snow during the warmup. You just went through the second warmest winter ever and you received less than half of your average seasonal snowfall and this is a C+/B- winter? I realize this is all subjective but in my book you just described a D- winter. I'm not picking on any one individual but I find many of these high grades perplexing. Even if I had near average snowfall like many in LI did, the ridiculous warmth and lack of any sustained snow cover makes this a D+/C- winter at best, but I'll stick with my F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You just went through the second warmest winter ever and you received less than half of your average seasonal snowfall and this is a C+/B- winter? I realize this is all subjective but in my book you just described a D- winter. I'm not picking on any one individual but I find many of these high grades perplexing. Even if I had near average snowfall like many in LI did, the ridiculous warmth and lack of any sustained snow cover makes this a D+/C- winter at best, but I'll stick with my F. He got more than 15" in Westchester...the Blizzard alone was 16-18" there, then 5-6" from the anafrontal early Feb event, 2-3" on 2/15 before changeover, 1" on March 4th...he should have 25-30" in his location. JBG is notorious for underestimating snowfall amounts and arguing with official records solely to be contrarian.I still think a C/C+ is a fair grade for this winter, so I don't completely doubt JBG's argument. It's hard to put this winter in the category of true ratter like 11-12, 01-02, 99-00, 98-99, 97-98, 96-97, 88-89, 72-73, etc...that group of winters had no major snowfalls and lacked extreme cold. The winter minimum was 19F in 01-02 compared to -1F this year. This winter was more like 82-83 in being a one storm winter, but as Isotherm pointed out, the Arctic blocking pattern was slightly more favorable with the extreme Kara Sea ridge leading to a brief but powerful -AO. Instead of one storm, we got three weeks: From January 23 to February 15 was a solid stretch of winter with a 26" blizzard, two other events, and a below zero night in an exceptionally cold weekend. However, the rest of the winter was dreadfully mild and echoes 01-02, 11-12, and 97-98. We had very little sustained snowpack for a winter that featured 35-40" in NYC. 08-09 had 25" but had significantly more snow cover. The 26" blizzard melted in 5 days like Jan 96. December was the warmest ever, and it should be a long time before we see another December without any 32F nights in Central Park. Late February failed to deliver, and March is looking more like a spring month. Overall, a winter of extreme contrasts. Unfortunately, a winter that rarely felt wintry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 the closest winter to an A+ imo is 1995-96...But it had its faults...the second half of January was a major thaw...the last week in February was a major thaw...if all the precipitation from noreasters fell as snow NYC would have picked up 100"...I think 1997-98 should get the lowest rating possible...F...is there a F-?... 1995-96...A+ 2002-03...A 2010-11...A 2009-10...A 2013-14...A 2014-15...A 1993-94...A 2000-01...B+ 2003-04...B+ 2004-05...B+ 2005-06...B 2008-09...B 2015-16...B 2012-13...B- 1999-00...D 2006-07...D 2007-08...D 1994-95...D 1998-99...F 1996-97...F 2011-12...F 1997-98...F 2001-02...F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 With 11 of the last 22 winters featuring more than 50 inches of snow out here in Port Jeff (1993-94 through 2014-15)...lot of A or B winters in the last generation...('94, '96. '01, '03, '04, '05, '10, '11, '13, '14, '15). Even '09 must be deemed a fairly decent winter as we just broke 40 inches and saw some extreme cold in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I really liked 08-09, had 45" in Westchester with a very cold January. It was a great winter in college at Middlebury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 You just went through the second warmest winter ever and you received less than half of your average seasonal snowfall and this is a C+/B- winter? I realize this is all subjective but in my book you just described a D- winter. I'm not picking on any one individual but I find many of these high grades perplexing. Even if I had near average snowfall like many in LI did, the ridiculous warmth and lack of any sustained snow cover makes this a D+/C- winter at best, but I'll stick with my F. Sorry, I was counting only the January 23, 2016 storm in my totals. With the nickel and dimers it was maybe 22" for the winter. And the big cold of mid-February did happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 JBG is notorious for underestimating snowfall amounts and arguing with official records solely to be contrarian. I am on the Connecticut border, 3.3 miles south of KHPN. However we are close enough to the Sound that we often get less snow than KHPN and warmer temperatures. Also I think the "snowboard" method of measuring overestimates a storm's impact. The impact on the Lindsay Storm on KNYC was crippling; this one caused barely a ripple. Yet the Lindsay Storm officially produced 15.2" compared to 26.8 in this one. Better labor relations and snow removal were not the whole story. The measurements are inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 A+. From the 70s on the beach Christmas Eve to capturing thunder snow during a live hit in the middle of covering the blizzard at 6:30 am at the beach to now 80 degrees one week after 5 inches of snow and catching a tan today plus missing the Valentine's weekend cold on vacation in Daytona Florida. Best....winter....ever. A+ for Point Pleasant Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygar Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 29 inches vs 45 average. Bad season. Got 24 from the one storm, which was great of course. C- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I am on the Connecticut border, 3.3 miles south of KHPN. However we are close enough to the Sound that we often get less snow than KHPN and warmer temperatures. Also I think the "snowboard" method of measuring overestimates a storm's impact. The impact on the Lindsay Storm on KNYC was crippling; this one caused barely a ripple. Yet the Lindsay Storm officially produced 15.2" compared to 26.8 in this one. Better labor relations and snow removal were not the whole story. The measurements are inflated. Yet three airports within 6 miles of Central Park all reported between 28-31 inches and you believe the 26.8 is inflated? You obviously don't know the history of snowfall measurements in Central Park, most storms there big and small are under measured and despite NOAA's attempts to fix it, it has continued this year with the Conservancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 a storms impact should be considered as part of the criteria...this year's blizzard was gone in a week or so...It did screw things up for a few days...The storm in 1983 was similar...the one in Feb. 1978 was on the ground with reinforcements until mid March...Boxing day six also...I think the biggest impact storm was Boxing day four in 1947...other great impact storms were in Feb. 1920...December 1960...January 1961...February 1961...January 1964...Feb. 1967...Feb. 1969...March 1993...January 1996... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 C-. Below normal snow and basically three weeks of winter weather . And for those that do winter outlooks please stop they are a waste of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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