janetjanet998 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 REA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL 446 PM CST MON FEB 22 2016 ...A SIGNIFICANT THREAT OF SEVERE STORMS IS FORECAST OVER THE LOCAL AREA TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING... ...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR STRONG AND LONG TRACK TORNADOES TUESDAY AFTERNOON INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING... NEAR TERM /NOW THROUGH TUESDAY/ A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY EXTENDING FROM SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI UP TO THE NORTHEAST ACROSS CENTRAL ALABAMA THIS EVENING WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY OR LIFT NORTH ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT. AN AREA OF RAIN WITH A FEW THUNDERSTORMS CURRENTLY ORIENTED ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL MOVE SLOWLY EAST ACROSS WESTERN HALF OF OUR FCST AREA THIS EVENING AND INTO THE EARLY PREDAWN MORNING HOURS TUESDAY. WE ARE EXPECTING COVERAGE TO DECREASE AFTER MIDNIGHT AS WEAK SUPPORTING UPPER DYNAMICS WEAKEN OVER THE AREA...BUT THERE WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT. LIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOW CONTINUES TONIGHT...BRINGING EVER INCREASING MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. OBSERVED SFC DEWPOINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RUNNING UP TO AROUND 5 DEGREES ABOVE GUIDANCE...AND WE EXPECT THIS TO CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. WITH THIS...AREAS OF FOG AGAIN POSSIBLE TONIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND OUT OVER THE ADJACENT MARINE AREAS. LOWS TONIGHT IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S OVER INTERIOR COUNTIES. BIG CHANGES ON THE WAY TUESDAY...WITH THE AFTERNOON HOURS (AND CONTINUING INTO THE EVENING HOURS...SEE SHORT TERM DISCUSSION BELOW) EXPECT TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHANCE OF SEVERE WEATHER. THE DAY BEGINS WITH A RAPIDLY AMPLIFYING UPPER SYSTEM (BECOMING NEGATIVELY TILTED DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY) SWINGING EAST OUT OF TEXAS TO NEAR NORTHEAST LOUISIANA BY THE END OF THE DAY. JUST TO THE EAST OF THE UPPER LOW...VERY INTENSE AND DEEPENING SFC LOW PRESSURE WILL LIFT NORTHEAST OUT OF SOUTHEAST COASTAL TEXAS TO NORTHEAST LOUISIANA (WHERE SOME MODEL OUTPUTS INDICATES A PRESSURE AS LOW AS 988 MB). ALL INGREDIENTS COMING TOGETHER FOR ONSET OF A SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EVENT BY MID AFTERNOON (AND CONTINUING INTO THE EVENING). THREAT FOR SEVERE WEATHER WILL RAPIDLY INCREASE AFTER ABOUT 2 PM...ESPECIALLY OVER INTERIOR SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI AND MOVING INTO PORTIONS OF EXTREME SOUTHWEST ALABAMA THROUGH 6 PM. MODELS HAVE ALREADY BEEN NOTED TO BE UNDERESTIMATING THE INSTABILITY...ESPECIALLY THE GFS...WITH THE NAM AND ECMWF SEEMING TO ADJUST A LITTLE CLOSER WITH CURRENT TRENDS. FOR THIS REASON WE LEANED TOWARD A COMBINATION OF THESE TWO SOLUTIONS. WITH THE HIGHER MOISTURE LEVELS EXPECTED THAN MODELS SUGGEST...BELIEVE THE 1500 MUCAPES ADVERTISED TO BE DEVELOPING OVER OUR WESTERN FCST AREA BY LATE AFTERNOON BY THE NAM ARE NOT UNREASONABLE. IN ADDITION TO THESE CAPE VALUES...0-1KM SR-HEL VALUES APPROACHING 400 M2/S2 AND 0-3KM SR-HEL VALUES APPROACHING 500-600 M2/S2 OVER OUR SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI COUNTIES BY THE END OF THE DAY AS LOW LEVEL 850 JET INCREASES TO AT LEAST 55 KNOTS. AS SUCH...SPC HAS OUTLOOKED ALL OF OUR AREA UNDER A MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE WEATHER ON TUESDAY...AND STRONG AND LONG TRACKED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE. A WIND ADVISORY IS ALSO NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA ON TUESDAY...AND BOTH A HIGH SURF ADVISORY AND HIGH RIP CURRENT RISKS ALONG THE COAST. HIGH TEMPS TUESDAY EXPECTED TO BE IN THE LOW TO MID 70S. 12/DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Got to hand it to the local tv stations down this way. Local news leading off with the threat. Taking time to explain about discreet cells out ahead of the front while showing in house model. Explaining about moderate risk and what that really means. Doing a great job getting the word out to the general public with the caveat of prepare now not later. This is not relative to the TV stations but thought I would add it to go along with the graph posted above. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 MOB disco is out....nice write up. AFDMOBAREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL446 PM CST MON FEB 22 2016...A SIGNIFICANT THREAT OF SEVERE STORMS IS FORECAST OVER THE LOCALAREA TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING......POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR STRONG AND LONG TRACK TORNADOES TUESDAYAFTERNOON INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING....NEAR TERM /NOW THROUGH TUESDAY/...A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY EXTENDINGFROM SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI UP TO THE NORTHEAST ACROSS CENTRAL ALABAMATHIS EVENING WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY OR LIFT NORTH ACROSS THEREGION TONIGHT. AN AREA OF RAIN WITH A FEW THUNDERSTORMS CURRENTLYORIENTED ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL MOVE SLOWLY EAST ACROSSWESTERN HALF OF OUR FCST AREA THIS EVENING AND INTO THE EARLYPREDAWN MORNING HOURS TUESDAY. WE ARE EXPECTING COVERAGE TO DECREASEAFTER MIDNIGHT AS WEAK SUPPORTING UPPER DYNAMICS WEAKEN OVER THEAREA...BUT THERE WILL BE A CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AND ISOLATEDTHUNDERSTORMS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT. LIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOWCONTINUES TONIGHT...BRINGING EVER INCREASING MOISTURE INTO THEREGION. OBSERVED SFC DEWPOINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RUNNING UP TOAROUND 5 DEGREES ABOVE GUIDANCE...AND WE EXPECT THIS TO CONTINUEOVERNIGHT. WITH THIS...AREAS OF FOG AGAIN POSSIBLE TONIGHT NEAR THECOAST AND OUT OVER THE ADJACENT MARINE AREAS. LOWS TONIGHT IN THEMID TO UPPER 50S OVER INTERIOR COUNTIES.BIG CHANGES ON THE WAY TUESDAY...WITH THE AFTERNOON HOURS (ANDCONTINUING INTO THE EVENING HOURS...SEE SHORT TERM DISCUSSIONBELOW) EXPECT TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHANCE OF SEVERE WEATHER. THEDAY BEGINS WITH A RAPIDLY AMPLIFYING UPPER SYSTEM (BECOMINGNEGATIVELY TILTED DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY) SWINGING EAST OUT OFTEXAS TO NEAR NORTHEAST LOUISIANA BY THE END OF THE DAY. JUST TO THEEAST OF THE UPPER LOW...VERY INTENSE AND DEEPENING SFC LOW PRESSUREWILL LIFT NORTHEAST OUT OF SOUTHEAST COASTAL TEXAS TO NORTHEASTLOUISIANA (WHERE SOME MODEL OUTPUTS INDICATES A PRESSURE AS LOW AS988 MB). ALL INGREDIENTS COMING TOGETHER FOR ONSET OF A SIGNIFICANTSEVERE WEATHER EVENT BY MID AFTERNOON (AND CONTINUING INTO THEEVENING). THREAT FOR SEVERE WEATHER WILL RAPIDLY INCREASE AFTER ABOUT2 PM...ESPECIALLY OVER INTERIOR SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI AND MOVING INTOPORTIONS OF EXTREME SOUTHWEST ALABAMA THROUGH 6 PM. MODELS HAVEALREADY BEEN NOTED TO BE UNDERESTIMATING THE INSTABILITY...ESPECIALLYTHE GFS...WITH THE NAM AND ECMWF SEEMING TO ADJUST A LITTLE CLOSERWITH CURRENT TRENDS. FOR THIS REASON WE LEANED TOWARD A COMBINATIONOF THESE TWO SOLUTIONS. WITH THE HIGHER MOISTURE LEVELS EXPECTED THANMODELS SUGGEST...BELIEVE THE 1500 MUCAPES ADVERTISED TO BE DEVELOPINGOVER OUR WESTERN FCST AREA BY LATE AFTERNOON BY THE NAM ARE NOTUNREASONABLE. IN ADDITION TO THESE CAPE VALUES...0-1KM SR-HEL VALUESAPPROACHING 400 M2/S2 AND 0-3KM SR-HEL VALUES APPROACHING 500-600M2/S2 OVER OUR SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI COUNTIES BY THE END OF THE DAYAS LOW LEVEL 850 JET INCREASES TO AT LEAST 55 KNOTS. AS SUCH...SPCHAS OUTLOOKED ALL OF OUR AREA UNDER A MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE WEATHERON TUESDAY...AND STRONG AND LONG TRACKED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE.A WIND ADVISORY IS ALSO NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA ONTUESDAY...AND BOTH A HIGH SURF ADVISORY AND HIGH RIP CURRENT RISKSALONG THE COAST. HIGH TEMPS TUESDAY EXPECTED TO BE IN THE LOW TO MID70S. 12/DS.SHORT TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/...GLOBAL MODELSARE IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ALOFT AND AT THE SURFACE WITH THE POTENTSTORM SYSTEM LIFTING UP ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY ANDMID-SOUTH TUESDAY EVENING. A STRONGLY REFLECTED NEGATIVE TILTCONFIGURATION TO THE MID LEVEL GEO-POTENTIAL HEIGHT FIELDS WILLINCREASE LARGE SCALE ASCENT WITHIN A WELL DEFINED WARM SECTOR TUESDAYEVENING OVER THE CENTRAL GULF COAST THAT IS FORECAST TO CONTAIN MODESTINSTABILITY. SUBSTANTIAL H50 HEIGHT FALLS TO BETWEEN 15 AND 20DECAMETERS ROLLING ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA RESULTSIN THE RAPID INTENSIFICATION TO A FRONTAL SURFACE LOW WHICHPROPAGATES NORTHEAST TO THE MID-SOUTH BY MIDNIGHT EARLY WEDNESDAYMORNING. BETWEEN THE MODEL SOLUTIONS...CENTRAL PRESSURES LOWER TO ARANGE OF 988 TO 993 MILLIBARS NEAR MONROE LOUISIANA BY EARLY TUESDAYEVENING. FROM THERE...THE INTENSE LOW TRACKS NORTHEAST TO BETWEENGREENVILLE AND OXFORD MISSISSIPPI BY MIDNIGHT EARLY WEDNESDAY AM TOJACKSON TENNESSEE BY DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY. THE ENSEMBLES INDICATE THATTHE STRENGTH OF THIS LOW IS AN ANOMALY WITH SURFACE CENTRAL PRESSURESSOME 3 TO 4 STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW THE MEAN. CONSIDERING THIS ANDTHE REPRESENTATION OF THE PHYSICAL SOLUTIONS IN THE SPECTRALMODELS...THE WIND PROFILES IN THE LOWER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE AREFORECAST TO BE INTENSE OVER THE LOCAL AREA DURING THE EVENING.CONSIDERING THIS...SOUTHWESTERLY 0-3 KM BULK SHEAR MAGNITUDESTRENDING BETWEEN 45 AND 55 KNOTS COUPLED WITH STRONGLY BACKED SURFACEWINDS...HODOGRAPHS ARE STRONGLY CURVED WITH 0-1 KM STORM RELATIVEHELICITY VALUES BECOMING EXTREMELY HIGH...EXCEEDING 500 M2/S2. THISFAVORS WELL DEFINED ROTATION IN STRONGLY DEVELOPED SUPERCELLS...WITHCONCERNS THAT WE COULD BE DEALING WITH INSTANCES OF STRONG AND LONGTRACK TORNADOES. OTHER SEVERE WEATHER THREATS WILL BE DAMAGING WINDSIN EXCESS OF 70 MPH AND GOLFBALL SIZE HAIL OR LARGER. FORECASTERSSTRONGLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PLAN AHEAD...BE WEATHER AWARE ANDVIGILANT INTO TUESDAY NIGHT. WITH THE EXPECTED STORM MOTION FORECASTTO BE RAPID...IT IS IMPORTANT TO MOVE QUICKLY TO A PLACE OF SAFETY INTHE EVENT A WARNING IS ISSUED FOR YOUR AREA. 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JoshM Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Wow... getting really anxious about severe weather, especially when I see colors like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Got to hand it to the local tv stations down this way. Local news leading off with the threat. Taking time to explain about discreet cells out ahead of the front while showing in house model. Explaining about moderate risk and what that really means. Doing a great job getting the word out to the general public with the caveat of prepare now not later. This is not relative to the TV stations but thought I would add it to go along with the graph posted above. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's good. Also glad to see NWS offices agreeing. What NWS Mobile said is impressive though - 1500 MUCAPE with 400 m2/s2 0-1km SRH and 500-600 0-3km. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Wow... getting really anxious about severe weather, especially when I see colors like these. Central NC is in for an active WX day on Wednesday. 4K NAM likely overdone but still impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Central NC is in for an active WX day on Wednesday. 4K NAM likely overdone but still impressive. The NAM also wants to have 2 lines of storms coming thru, both look pretty nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 You guys see the 110-120kt through Lousiana/AL? Whew! Andyhb had this to say about it: You probably cannot draw it up more textbook than that at 500 mb. Fairly low amplitude/broad-based, neutral/slightly neg tilt trough with an extremely strong vort max and 110+ kt 500 mb jet streak plowing directly over top of the warm sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 This event could be as big as 3-28-84 if the GFS verified with instability. It had -9 near CLT, with a large area of -4 or higher over much of NC and SC. Dunno if I would throw that date out there, that was and is the scariest storm night of my life....the F4 that Ted Fujita himself came to survey and was rated at 200 mph by him ( although I suspect it would be lower now) missed my house by a bit more than a mile. There was large debris coming down and the winds had to be 60-100mph at my house, a hood to a car landed across the street in the woods and there was shingles and pink insulation all over the place. We are talking 7 F4's and 5 F3's thats gonna be hard to top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackGrad05 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The SPC has central/eastern NC under a slight risk. In April 2011, central NC was upgraded to a "high" risk the day of the event, and IIRC, that was only the second time in history central NC has been placed under the high risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The SPC has central/eastern NC under a slight risk. In April 2011, central NC was upgraded to a "high" risk the day of the event, and IIRC, that was only the second time in history central NC has been placed under the high risk. the other was 3-28-1984, so they at least got it right with the high risk...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubiksDestroyer Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The SPC has central/eastern NC under a slight risk. In April 2011, central NC was upgraded to a "high" risk the day of the event, and IIRC, that was only the second time in history central NC has been placed under the high risk. They haven't updated that since 3:30 AM today. Also, the areas under the Moderate risk for tomorrow were under the slight risk in the same time frame. I'm not sure if you're trying to suggest that this isn't going to be a big deal and that comparing these outbreaks isn't logically sound because of the SPC storm rating, but if so then you'd be wrong to assume that. I'm not saying we'll be under a high risk or anything like that (we likely won't be), but I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPC upgrade the risk to moderate for an isolated area in Central NC tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5statewx Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yeah They haven't updated that since 3:30 AM today. Also, the areas under the Moderate risk for tomorrow were under the slight risk in the same time frame. I'm not sure if you're trying to suggest that this isn't going to be a big deal and that comparing these outbreaks isn't logically sound because of the SPC storm rating, but if so then you'd be wrong to assume that. I'm not saying we'll be under a high risk or anything like that (we likely won't be), but I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPC upgrade the risk to moderate for an isolated area in Central NC tomorrow morning. Yeah, doesn't really have any impact! For reference, this was the day 3 outlook for 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Dunno if I would throw that date out there, that was and is the scariest storm night of my life....the F4 that Ted Fujita himself came to survey and was rated at 200 mph by him ( although I suspect it would be lower now) missed my house by a bit more than a mile. There was large debris coming down and the winds had to be 60-100mph at my house, a hood to a car landed across the street in the woods and there was shingles and pink insulation all over the place. We are talking 7 F4's and 5 F3's thats gonna be hard to top. The NAM does have it all coming through earlier though and that would take 3-28-1984 off the table, but this could easily top, or at least rival, 4-16-2011. The area from HWY 1 and east in NC looks to be the biggest target overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5statewx Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The NAM does have it all coming through earlier though and that would take 3-28-1984 off the table, but this could easily top, or at least rival, 4-16-2011. The area from HWY 1 and east in NC looks to be the biggest target overall. I wouldn't go as far as saying 'easily top', considering it's NC's largest tornado outbreak on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 They haven't updated that since 3:30 AM today. They don't update the extended range severe forecasts as often as they do Day 1. I would expect an adjustment tomorrow, and possibly again Wed morning as the event gets closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackGrad05 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 They haven't updated that since 3:30 AM today. Also, the areas under the Moderate risk for tomorrow were under the slight risk in the same time frame. I'm not sure if you're trying to suggest that this isn't going to be a big deal and that comparing these outbreaks isn't logically sound because of the SPC storm rating, but if so then you'd be wrong to assume that. I'm not saying we'll be under a high risk or anything like that (we likely won't be), but I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPC upgrade the risk to moderate for an isolated area in Central NC tomorrow morning. I wasn't suggesting that at all. On the contrary, by following up my post with the historical data of an upgrade occurring the day of the April 2011 outbreak, I was suggesting that we could likely see the risk upgraded by 0 hour, if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The NAM does have it all coming through earlier though and that would take 3-28-1984 off the table, but this could easily top, or at least rival, 4-16-2011. The area from HWY 1 and east in NC looks to be the biggest target overall. While this is likely the biggest threat since then, talking about something "easily topping" an event that led to 139 tornado reports in the region is irresponsible. Even if this looked like 4/27/11 (which it doesn't), I would never bring up the thought of surpassing an event of that magnitude or even rivalling it prior to it actually happening or at least the day of. That's when the mesoscale details become most clear. For the record, unless something drastic changes at 00z, I'd definitely say SPC upgrades to enhanced for something like Columbia to Durham eastward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 While this is likely the biggest threat since then, talking about something "easily topping" an event that led to 139 tornado reports in the region is irresponsible. Even if this looked liked 4/27/11 (which it doesn't), I would never bring up the thought of surpassing an event of that magnitude or even rivalling it prior to it actually happening or at least the day of. That's when the mesoscale details become most clear. For the record, unless something drastic changes at 00z, I'd definitely say SPC upgrades to enhanced for something like Columbia to Durham eastward. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 They don't update the extended range severe forecasts as often as they do Day 1. I would expect an adjustment tomorrow, and possibly again Wed morning as the event gets closer. That is what happened with the 4/16/11 outbreak. I don't think we were in the high risk category until that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubiksDestroyer Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I wasn't suggesting that at all. On the contrary, by following up my post with the historical data of an upgrade occurring the day of the April 2011 outbreak, I was suggesting that we could likely see the risk upgraded by 0 hour, if not before. Ok, I wasn't sure if you were or not. I agree- I believe an upgrade to the severe storm risk is definitely imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 That is what happened with the 4/16/11 outbreak. I don't think we were in the high risk category until that day. Enhanced came with the 06z day 2 outlook. Moderate came with the 1730z day 2 outlook. At about Noon Eastern time, they announced via an MCD that they'd upgrade to high risk with the 1630z day 1 outlook. MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0454NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1116 AM CDT SAT APR 16 2011 AREAS AFFECTED...ERN NC CONCERNING...OUTLOOK UPGRADE VALID 161616Z - 161715Z AN UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK FOR THE 1630Z CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK UPDATE IS FORTHCOMING FOR ERN NC. THE COMBINATION OF VERY STRONG SHEAR/MODERATE INSTABILITY...INCREASING LOW LEVEL MOISTURE...AND LARGE SCALE ASCENT ACROSS THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING LENDS CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST FOR AN OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 That is what happened with the 4/16/11 outbreak. I don't think we were in the high risk category until that day. They upgraded that morning or late overnight...look at my avatar lol...that event was crazy, the line of pathetic storms headed east into central NC and then went discrete I have never seen that like that before. Usually discrete cells form into lines or line segments this did the opposite. This is a pretty cool map that kind highlights North Carolinas "tornado" alley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 While this is likely the biggest threat since then, talking about something "easily topping" an event that led to 139 tornado reports in the region is irresponsible. Even if this looked liked 4/27/11 (which it doesn't), I would never bring up the thought of surpassing an event of that magnitude or even rivalling it prior to it actually happening or at least the day of. That's when the mesoscale details become most clear. For the record, unless something drastic changes at 00z, I'd definitely say SPC upgrades to enhanced for something like Columbia to Durham eastward. I've noticed from an amateur/non experienced severe view.. that some parameters are looking worse towards the NE SC area from about Florence SC, into NC. Am I looking at things correctly with that? I was thinking that would be the area with the highest risk/spc wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 They upgraded that morning or late overnight...look at my avatar lol...that event was crazy, the line of pathetic storms headed east into central NC and then went discrete I have never seen that like that before. Usually discrete cells form into lines or line segments this did the opposite. This is a pretty cool map that kind highlights North Carolinas "tornado" alley NC tonado alley.png ^ That map is the frequency of long-track violent tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I've noticed from an amateur/non experienced severe view.. that some parameters are looking worse towards the NE SC area from about Florence SC, into NC. Am I looking at things correctly with that? I was thinking that would be the area with the highest risk/spc wording. From CAE east looks good to me. How far south the "wedge" goes, before moving north (as a warm front) will decide the place for the best dynamics here in the midlands early in the day wed. Then we get more fun as the front rolls through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 For tomorrow (Tuesday) Jim Cantore @JimCantore 4m4 minutes ago Latest @NWSSPC probabilities for SEVERE WX which include the potential for tornadoes AFTER DARK TUESDAY into Wed AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Someone on Accuweather forums from northwest of New Orleans (Pride, LA): School closures for Louisiana have been announced: For Baton Rouge: http://theadvocate.com/sports/preps/14952378-148/baton-rouge-area-schools-announce-tuesday-closures-enhanced-risk-of-severe-weather-in-south-louisian All over southeast La: http://www.wwltv.com/story/weather/2016/02/22/multiple-parishes-close-schools-due-severe-weather-threat/80782856/ http://theadvocate.com/sports/preps/14952378-148/baton-rouge-area-schools-announce-tuesday-closures-enhanced-risk-of-severe-weather-in-south-louisian http://www.nola.com/weather/index.ssf/2016/02/tangipahoa_washington_parish_s.html This is pretty significant. It's one thing for us to close over an inch or two of slush, but to close over anticipated severe weather is rare down here. We've closed schools more often over hurricanes than over severe weather outbreaks (not like those are that common this close to the GOM however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weunice Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yes, and there is much gnashing of teeth going on about it here. The school closings are very thorough on the I-12 corridor from West Baton Rouge all the way over to the LIX office in Slidell. LSU is even closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 This could be major if morning convection clears, but it is still not certain. Even though the 4K at 0z has much less instability, this is still a very volatile setup. Starting to near HRRR range, and almost in the range of the RAP. The HRRR advertises no convection until at least 15z based on the 0z run. Once the morning hits it will be time to go to the good ole soundings and surface charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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