Randy4Confluence Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'll disagree there. The cold never makes it east of the Apps..I'm not saying Maine or N VT won't get a storm..but from about Rt 2 south is certainly done ??? It's not even spring yet dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well since I was accused of straw man.. I was trying to keep that poster happy. But my opinion is south of Route 2 is done with accumulating snow. That doesn't mean it's right. It's simply my opinion Seeing as the average last dates of GTE 1" for PVD, BOS, and HFD are 3/14, 3/17, and 3/20 respectively, it's early to be ruling out accumulating snow. Especially out your way given the HFD number. Or should I check ORH too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Seeing as the average last dates of GTE 1" for PVD, BOS, and HFD are 3/14, 3/17, and 3/20 respectively, it's early to be ruling out accumulating snow. Especially out your way given the HFD number. Or should I check ORH too? I'm just north of him and my average last date for 1" is 3/26. Trace is 4/13. I agree that it's early to rule it out. Besides, my professor in college told me never to forecast in absolutes because we don't know unless it's actually occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'm just north of him and my average last date for 1" is 3/26. Trace is 4/13. I agree that it's early to rule it out. Besides, my professor in college told me never to forecast in absolutes because we don't know unless it's actually occurred. ORH 3/29. In and up is better, but it's not over for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 ORH 3/29. In and up is better, but it's not over for anyone. And if you know there's a somewhat favorable pattern after 3/20 those numbers are probably conservative. Averaged into those are the times where we torch after mid March and never come back for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 And if you know there's a somewhat favorable pattern after 3/20 those numbers are probably conservative. Averaged into those are the times where we torch after mid March and never come back for snow. March 2012. ORH pulled a +9 and had 5.1" of snow on the 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 March 2012. ORH pulled a +9 and had 5.1" of snow on the 31st. Common sense should not be inserted in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 ORH 3/29. In and up is better, but it's not over for anyone. Well this is where there's a disconnect. Theoretically no..it's not over. But there are years when "you know" it's over or can recognize it's probably not happening..and then there are years where "you know"or recognize it is going to happen. That to me is the difference. IMO again..this is just my own personal opinion, the pattern to me will not allow for a snow event that means something in SNE. As I've said 4x now..that's not necessarily the case for NNE. Why my opinion matters or makes people angry or upset or whatever is baffling to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Great post. Give him a time out why don't ya...he is always like this...shootin his mouth of like he knows more than the Pros. You guys tolerate way to much BS from him...Period!! Who do you think you are posting something like this? Get a grip on yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well this is where there's a disconnect. Theoretically no..it's not over. But there are years when "you know" it's over or can recognize it's probably not happening..and then there are years where "you know"or recognize it is going to happen. That to me is the difference. IMO again..this is just my own personal opinion, the pattern to me will not allow for a snow event that means something in SNE. As I've said 4x now..that's not necessarily the case for NNE. Why my opinion matters or makes people angry or upset or whatever is baffling to me The issue is that you are basing it on nothing more than your personal feeling (speaking of bringing emotions into it). Instead of adding value to the discussion as to why the upcoming pattern may fail, you are basically saying "it won't snow because it hasn't snowed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It's doing it again, tho - no sooner than a veracious observation is made regarding any potential cold storminess at all, and the models seemingly in wait ... go out of their way NOT to model that possibility. The GFS was flirting nicely with it for almost 3 straight days worth of run, and the 00z Euro was really into as well... Nothing now. This has been the creepy plight for months. Spring is a fickle time - duh - but scenarios can be lost in the seasonal shuffle; probably should just keep an eye out there. But I could also see the first week of April really going warm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 The issue is that you are basing it on nothing more than your personal feeling (speaking of bringing emotions into it). Instead of adding value to the discussion as to why the upcoming pattern may fail, you are basically saying "it won't snow because it hasn't snowed." Well if you haven't been reading or following along and seen the countless reasons why I think that, then I'm not sure what to tell you. I've posted them several times in different threads. I'm not going to rehash them again. If that's what you think then ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well if you haven't been reading or following along and seen the countless reasons why I think that, then I'm not sure what to tell you. I've posted them several times in different threads. I'm not going to rehash them again. If that's what you think then okanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 angerNot at all man. I just get weary defending myself sometimes. My opinion apparently isn't a popular one this year. If I've offended anyone with that I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Not at all man. I just get weary defending myself sometimes. My opinion apparently isn't a popular one this year. If I've offended anyone with that I apologize I gave you credit for your seasonal call....schooled mine. Very good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Not at all man. I just get weary defending myself sometimes. My opinion apparently isn't a popular one this year. If I've offended anyone with that I apologize Your opinion is based on emotion and no science. So yeah, it's tossed and ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 28.4" here...lol I didn't even think we got that much. Probably would have guessed like 19" or something. The snow is almost fully melted out of the backyard now. Tulips popped up out front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteradiator Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 still scratching your heads.. aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Who do you think you are posting something like this? Get a grip on yourself. You get a grip on yourself! I'll say what I want! Keep speaking in absolutes on something you have no control over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 You get a grip on yourself! I'll say what I want! Keep speaking in absolutes on something you have no control over!Why all the exclamations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Beaut of a cutter on Euro day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 But there are years when "you know" it's over or can recognize it's probably not happening..and then there are years where "you know"or recognize it is going to happen. That to me is the difference. IMO again..this is just my own personal opinion, the pattern to me will not allow for a snow event that means something in SNE. As I've said 4x now..that's not necessarily the case for NNE. Why my opinion matters or makes people angry or upset or whatever is baffling to me Well if you haven't been reading or following along and seen the countless reasons why I think that, then I'm not sure what to tell you. I've posted them several times in different threads. I'm not going to rehash them again. If that's what you think then ok Just scanning back in this thread several pages, the issue is not that your opinion makes people upset or angry... its that you've stated your opinion so many times with no additional added value. And you can think you've stated your reasons... but if you read the threads all the posts are "its done south of RT 2" or "the pattern isn't going to allow it" or "its done south of RT 2" or "the pattern isn't going to allow it." There's no actual discussion there. Every time someone makes a post about potential you make a counter post about how its not going to happen. No one is saying IT WILL HAPPEN, but the pattern thread is about potential. If you don't want "the anger" then add something to the discussion or just let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I don't see any changes really. It's a flip to a much different look then we have seen by next weekend and especially near the equinox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just read through the last few pages What a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 again lack of snow and beautiful but somewhat dull spring like weather causing trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 i was trying to find information on the easter sunday snowstorm 1970 but am only coming up with a few hits in sw ct and the nyc area...4-8 inches of snow followed by teens the next morning...anyone know if that event spread the love to new england further north or was it a nyc/sw ct special?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 i was trying to find information on the easter sunday snowstorm 1970 but am only coming up with a few hits in sw ct and the nyc area...4-8 inches of snow followed by teens the next morning...anyone know if that event spread the love to new england further north or was it a nyc/sw ct special?? From 3-29-3/31, my local COOP had 16.5" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 We also had a hell of a snowpack before Christmas too. Snowiest December ever near my locale with over 31" that month. Nina FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 From 3-29-3/31, my local COOP had 16.5" of snow. I want to say I remember my dad saying it was a big storm in central ct but I cannot remember with certainty but sounds region wide...probably redeveloper miller b type thanks for responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 We also had a hell of a snowpack before Christmas too. Snowiest December ever near my locale with over 31" that month. Nina FTW. It would be nice to get a good snowy December one of these seasons. For one it's nice for the holiday feel between Turkey and Christmas...but also gives that feeling of potential for the rest of the winter. It's one thing to bank on second half snow but sometimes nice to get snow early and hope for a huge season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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