CapturedNature Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 In other years where the pattern allows for it, sure. No arguments there. In fact, I'd be driving that bus.. But this was not New england's winter, and pattern persistence says we are done. We're not just going to whip up a magic 8 ball snowstorm in a warm pattern. The last week of March 1997 was well above average as well. Save for one December storm, we had less snowfall that winter than we did this winter. I'm all for persistence but if everything was persistent, weather patterns wouldn't change and we wouldn't have events like October 2012 that are anomalous in their patterns. I'm just saying that you can't say it will never happen. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I saw 00z temps. I missed the aftn temps. My bad. You really need to learn how to view models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Even Dendrite had to call you out yesterday. You are doing everything in your power to try and wish cold and snow in a warm pattern. It's spring and it's an Above normal pattern for the rest of the month sans a few day period of normal. Wishing cold and snow and getting emotional about it isn't going to change what's shaping up to be an exceptional AN month of Morch Deal With It -Cosgrove Man you are out of control. You had others including Will say the same. Learn models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Man you are out of control. You had others including Will say the same. Learn models. KGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 You really need to learn how to view models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Even Dendrite had to call you out yesterday. You are doing everything in your power to try and wish cold and snow in a warm pattern. It's spring and it's an Above normal pattern for the rest of the month sans a few day period of normal. Wishing cold and snow and getting emotional about it isn't going to change what's shaping up to be an exceptional AN month of Morch Deal With It -Cosgrove The opposite is true as well. Wishing it to be constantly 30° above normal isn't going to change what is going to happen. Personally, I wish the cooler period was coming next week but I can't change that. I'm still getting good sap for my maple season but by the time things cool off the trees may be done and I'm stuck losing out. It's the nature of the beast though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 You really need to learn how to view models. I did view the model. That was the 00z temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Lock the Euro in for Maine please, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Even Dendrite had to call you out yesterday. You are doing everything in your power to try and wish cold and snow in a warm pattern. It's spring and it's an Above normal pattern for the rest of the month sans a few day period of normal. Wishing cold and snow and getting emotional about it isn't going to change what's shaping up to be an exceptional AN month of Morch Deal With It -Cosgrove You don't seem to understand how spring snowfalls work...all it takes is a FROPA and well timed shortwave. I bet if you looked almost snowfalls in the second half of March or early April, most would have had a few mild days preceeding it. Theres a trough coming in that has some potential. Doesn't have to mean people have to lock in snows or say there's absolutely no chance. We know the KFS doesn't like uncertainty, that it prefers to be told either yes it will snow, or no it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Lock the Euro in for Maine please, thanks They hog all the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Kevin, you are completely off the rails. Trying to squash discussion of a snow event in some period around or after the Equinox when the pattern could clearly support it just ridiculous. It's fine to say you may not think it will happen...but to suggest that we aren't looking at models or a forecasted pattern correctly is laughably ignorant. Why does everything have to be an extreme or a black and white forecast? That isn't how metrology works and it has never been how it works. Take a break from the forum or simply remove yourself from these particular pattern threads if you can't handle the nuances of pattern discussion and recognition. Hey guess what? A snowstorm probably won't happen in your backyard. But speaking in certainties is the same is guessing with no scientific basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I would suggest you need a break or something to get your mind off of snow and cold . The birth of the baby is good timing for you I think. Anyway Euro confirms that far NNE is in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I would suggest you need a break or something to get your mind off of snow and cold . The birth of the baby is good timing for you I think. Anyway Euro confirms that far NNE is in the gameEuro actually hits CNE hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Euro actually hits CNE hardHope it's right for Will's sake then. Seems like he needs it. But ill continue in spring mode . I mean God forbid folks are allowed to discuss spring weather while still acknowledging NNE is in the game still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Could be a nice finale for CNE and N. I'm sure most have moved on but a sneaky snowstorm this late can be a pleasant sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 They hog all the snow I know right? NYC 31.6" GYX 39.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Pattern persistence? It does a 180 by next weekend. Model SPED. That's a fun new one. Kevin would be a great met in San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Kevin, you are completely off the rails. Trying to squash discussion of a snow event in some period around or after the Equinox when the pattern could clearly support it just ridiculous. It's fine to say you may not think it will happen...but to suggest that we aren't looking at models or a forecasted pattern correctly is laughably ignorant. Why does everything have to be an extreme or a black and white forecast? That isn't how metrology works and it has never been how it works. Take a break from the forum or simply remove yourself from these particular pattern threads if you can't handle the nuances of pattern discussion and recognition. Hey guess what? A snowstorm probably won't happen in your backyard. But speaking in certainties is the same is guessing with no scientific basis. Great post. Give him a time out why don't ya...he is always like this...shootin his mouth of like he knows more than the Pros. You guys tolerate way to much BS from him...Period!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hope it's right for Will's sake then. Seems like he needs it. But ill continue in spring mode . I mean God forbid folks are allowed to discuss spring weather while still acknowledging NNE is in the game still Except if you actually reads your posts...you aren't doing that. Stop with your straw men. You basically called out is for not being able to read models saying that the pattern doesn't show any potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Except if you actually reads your posts...you aren't doing that. Stop with your straw men. You basically called out is for not being able to read models saying that the pattern doesn't show any potential.Thats not true at all. Link the post where I brought your name up. I was having a discussion with Scooter and then you lost it on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hope it's right for Will's sake then. Seems like he needs it. But ill continue in spring mode . I mean God forbid folks are allowed to discuss spring weather while still acknowledging NNE is in the game still You do realize that it snows in the spring in SNE too, right? We are all in spring mode and that means a variety of weather from snow to heat. It doesn't mean that it has to be 80° every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 You do realize that it snows in the spring in SNE too, right? We are all in spring mode and that means a variety of weather from snow to heat. It doesn't mean that it has to be 80° every day.Sure. It snows all the time In the spring of the setup is right. 100% on the same page. And if we see the right setup modeled then it could this year or any other year. Unfortunately we're just not seeing that currently. But that could always change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Sure. It snows all the time In the spring of the setup is right. 100% on the same page. And if we see the right setup modeled then it could this year or any other year. Unfortunately we're just not seeing that currently. But that could always change Actually, according to you we are 100% done and that the pattern is set and persistent and it will not change and there are no changes possible. You can't have it both ways and say that we are out and the pattern won't allow it to snow here any more and claim it can change. Like others have said, it's not black or white (hot or cold/snowy or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Damage In Tolland Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Actually, according to you we are 100% done and that the pattern is set and persistent and it will not change and there are no changes possible. You can't have it both ways and say that we are out and the pattern won't allow it to snow here any more and claim it can change. Like others have said, it's not black or white (hot or cold/snowy or not).Well since I was accused of straw man.. I was trying to keep that poster happy. But my opinion is south of Route 2 is done with accumulating snow. That doesn't mean it's right. It's simply my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Sure. It snows all the time In the spring of the setup is right. 100% on the same page. And if we see the right setup modeled then it could this year or any other year. Unfortunately we're just not seeing that currently. But that could always change Same could be said of November, December, January, February... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thats not true at all. Link the post where I brought your name up. I was having a discussion with Scooter and then you lost it on me. Scooter said the exact same thing as me so you are saying my analysis was incorrect by default. It's fine...keep the extremes and black and white statements coming. They have no credibility though just if you still weren't aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I know right? NYC 31.6" GYX 39.6" Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I know right? NYC 31.6" GYX 39.6" 28.4" here...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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