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Winter Storm-Upstate NY-2/15-2/16


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Its been an Eastern NY winter so far... :axe:   Its been discussed in other threads about Albany's plight.  Putting aside the fact its not a lake effect city, its still a snowy city in its own right, on par with Worcester and Concord (except ALB does it at 200' instead of almost 1000').  Its just been running into some awful luck for some time now.  One of these winters they'll start getting some decent clippers and coast-huggers again.  I'm down in the city for work today, and it felt like the temp jumped from 31 to the 50's in a matter of minutes...

 

CNY, ENY, and far northeastern PA have been getting shafted by synoptic storms for quite a while now. It's odd when I think back to last decade when every big storm seemed to crush the far inland areas. It seems like WNY has made out pretty well with synoptic storms in recent years.

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That map doesn't show what appears to be a real maximum up around Webster. Vortmax said 20"...seeing some other reports around NE Monroe County to back that up. Maybe a little frictional convergence closer to the lakeshore there? 

 

We never mixed here at all. 2"/hr. rates for a couple of hours this morning likely helped. Still light snow here now. My 19.5" measurement was a few hours back so maybe another 1" or so. We'll see.

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Impressive totals!

 

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=buf&product=PNS&issuedby=BUF

 

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS
SNOWFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...
PERRYSBURG 11.5 1249 PM 2/16 COOP OBSERVER
ELLICOTTVILLE 9.0 1030 AM 2/16 PUBLIC
HUMPHREY 8.6 400 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ERIE COUNTY...
SARDINIA 15.2 315 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
EAST CONCORD 12.5 333 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 WSW ELMA 11.5 300 PM 2/16 COCORAHS
LANCASTER 11.0 1100 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 NNW HAMBURG 10.1 449 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 ENE ELMA 9.5 1020 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
ALDEN 9.0 1145 AM 2/16 NWS EMPLOYEE
NORTH BOSTON 9.0 352 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
BUFFALO AIRPORT 8.7 354 PM 2/16 ASOS
DEPEW 8.5 100 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 W WEST SENECA 8.0 1200 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SSW MARILLA 8.0 1130 AM 2/16 PUBLIC
1 SSW BLASDELL 8.0 1200 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST SENECA 8.0 1100 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
CLARENCE 8.0 1032 AM 2/16 NWS EMPLOYEE
TONAWANDA 8.0 1115 AM 2/16 PUBLIC
EAST AMHERST 8.0 300 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW CHEEKTOWAGA 8.0 1100 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 S BUFFALO 7.7 100 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
S LANCASTER 7.5 1130 AM 2/16 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 NW WILLIAMSVILLE 7.0 1200 PM 2/16 NWS EMPLOYEE
HAMBURG 6.0 1045 AM 2/16 COOP OBSERVER
WILLIAMSVILLE 5.5 900 AM 2/16 PUBLIC

...GENESEE COUNTY...
STAFFORD 12.0 918 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA
CORFU 8.5 100 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
HERRINGS 7.0 439 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER

...LIVINGSTON COUNTY...
5 NE GENESEO 16.5 1130 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
LIMA 14.0 343 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
LIVONIA 12.0 435 PM 2/16 SNOW SPOTTER
1 W MOUNT MORRIS 8.0 919 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER

...MONROE COUNTY...
2 ENE IRONDEQUOIT 22.0 445 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
1 SW CHARLOTTE 20.2 303 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SE FAIRPORT 18.0 330 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
ROCHESTER AIRPORT 17.9 354 PM 2/16 ASOS
PITTSFORD 17.0 126 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
3 SE FAIRPORT 16.5 140 PM 2/16 COCORAHS
3 W ROCHESTER 16.3 1245 PM 2/16 PUBLIC
FAIRPORT 16.0 400 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
HENRIETTA 16.0 115 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
W IRONDEQUOIT 15.0 1058 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA
PENFIELD 15.0 1130 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 NW ROCHESTER 15.0 1245 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
MUMFORD 14.0 1130 AM 2/16 PUBLIC
GREECE 14.0 900 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA
CHURCHVILLE 13.0 445 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
1 NW BROCKPORT 13.0 1119 AM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
IRONDEQUOIT 12.5 1004 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA
5 W ROCHESTER 12.2 1200 PM 2/16 COCORAHS
MENDON 12.0 1005 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA
N GREECE 10.0 1000 AM 2/16 BROADCAST MEDIA

...NIAGARA COUNTY...
LOCKPORT 8.5 250 PM 2/16 COCORAHS
3 E RANSOMVILLE 7.0 115 PM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 WNW RAPIDS 5.5 945 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 S WILSON 5.5 1030 AM 2/16 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ONTARIO COUNTY...
FARMINGTON 11.0 349 PM 2/16 4 INCHES SINCE 920AM
N PHELPS 9.0 328 PM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
HOLLEY 9.0 1158 AM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA
WATERPORT 6.0 924 AM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA

...WAYNE COUNTY...
3 ESE MACEDON 10.7 112 PM 2/16 COCORAHS
LYONS 8.0 948 AM 2/16 SOCIAL MEDIA

...WYOMING COUNTY...
3 SE ORANGEVILLE CEN 15.0 1230 PM 2/16 COCORAHS

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CNY, ENY, and far northeastern PA have been getting shafted by synoptic storms for quite a while now. It's odd when I think back to last decade when every big storm seemed to crush the far inland areas. It seems like WNY has made out pretty well with synoptic storms in recent years.

 

I recall a series of winter storms in Feb 14 - one of them brought 6-12 to WNY and did a bit better in CNY, and then there were a couple more that did better than that in CNY and ENY and barely grazed WNY. Albany had a snowfall that month that was bigger than any synoptic storm that I have seen in Buffalo since I moved here in 2012.

 

I don't think WNY has done all that great with synoptic storms since I've been here - Rochester got nailed this time, but memories are short among us weenies and I'm sure that by this time next winter ROC people will be just as annoyed as the rest of us at the annual Miller A 2 foot bomb along the I-95 corridor.

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That said, I see you're in Ithaca, which seems to be a particularly bad site for any kind of snow. So, yeah, frustration. 

Man it's been a crazy day here on the west side, i pushed at least 15 stuck cars on my street.. there is still a slushed up 6" on the side streets. We ended up with 9.8"..

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I recall a series of winter storms in Feb 14 - one of them brought 6-12 to WNY and did a bit better in CNY, and then there were a couple more that did better than that in CNY and ENY and barely grazed WNY. Albany had a snowfall that month that was bigger than any synoptic storm that I have seen in Buffalo since I moved here in 2012.

 

I don't think WNY has done all that great with synoptic storms since I've been here - Rochester got nailed this time, but memories are short among us weenies and I'm sure that by this time next winter ROC people will be just as annoyed as the rest of us at the annual Miller A 2 foot bomb along the I-95 corridor.

 

I know in 2008 WNY got hit really hard with a synoptic event with a similar track to this one but 50 miles west with the jackpot. The area received 20-30" storm totals. There was also the Blizzard in March of 2014 that brought pretty heavy totals. I'm sure there was more between 08 and 14 but those 2 stand out. It's tough to keep track of synoptic as large lake effect events are kept track of by KBUF.

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I don't know what the deal was this morning but the roads were nearly impassable. Cars stuck on flat pavement simply because the snow was so deep. It was coming down fast, Rochester isn't quite as prepared as buffalo for high intensity snow it would seem

It was a interesting ride this morning bat-syr and back....

330am 28F batavia- snow

445 29F clifton springs rest area F-rain,

600am 34 syr-heavy rain

Coming back just before 8am started getting like golf ball sized snow flakes  between Canadiagua and Victor..

I got off the thruway at the henrietta exit about 830 this morning..Took about 10mins to go the length of the W-bound off ramp, and it was a massive cluster #$$%. There was 2 accidents, a handful of cars spun out all over trying to go over the bridge to get on 390N or 253 and a wrecker yanking pretty hard on a stuck semi to get him to the booth.. There easily was 6-8 in and around the booth at that time. Glad for new tires and locking differential's to mash threw it and head to Avon which was just as much of a disaster...

 

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I know in 2008 WNY got hit really hard with a synoptic event with a similar track to this one but 50 miles west with the jackpot. The area received 20-30" storm totals. There was also the Blizzard in March of 2014 that brought pretty heavy totals. I'm sure there was more between 08 and 14 but those 2 stand out. It's tough to keep track of synoptic as large lake effect events are kept track of by KBUF.

 

March 2014 was a good one - 13.8" at KBUF, which was about average for the area. That was the top event since I've been here. The ENY storm the month before was a bit more impressive with totals, but certainly not for disruption. 

 

WNY is an awesome place for LES, even in the relatively sheltered part of town where I am, but we're not really a great synoptic location. The frequency interval for the last two synoptic whoppers hitting the region - let alone one spot - has been eight years. And there are places that didn't get 15"+ totals from either the 2008 or today's storm.

 

Point is: I don't think WNY, CNY, ENY are really better positioned for synoptic storms, so this envy of different parts of non-downstate NYS seems misplaced. Nobody far inland is going to get the opportunities that coastal locations are going to get for wound-up, ocean-fed low pressure systems that track northeastward. They've gotten lucky in recent years with the precip type, but given enough chances, they're going to get big synoptic storms that we won't see in a century. 

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I know in 2008 WNY got hit really hard with a synoptic event with a similar track to this one but 50 miles west with the jackpot. The area received 20-30" storm totals. There was also the Blizzard in March of 2014 that brought pretty heavy totals. I'm sure there was more between 08 and 14 but those 2 stand out. It's tough to keep track of synoptic as large lake effect events are kept track of by KBUF.

2008

March 7th-9th...One of the worst storms of the 2007-2008 winter season occurred on from the 7th through the 9th. This was an extended two part event but totals of one to two feet were common, with some isolated higher amounts. The storm occurred over a weekend so impact to daily activities (school and businesses) was minimal. Numerous automobile accidents were blamed on the slippery conditions and poor visibilities in falling and blowing snow. The 21.6 inch total measured at the Buffalo Airport was the greatest general (non-lake effect) snowfall in Buffalo in 24 years.

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March 7th-9th...One of the worst storms of the 2007-2008 winter season occurred on from the 7th through the 9th. This was an extended two part event but totals of one to two feet were common, with some isolated higher amounts. The storm occurred over a weekend so impact to daily activities (school and businesses) was minimal. Numerous automobile accidents were blamed on the slippery conditions and poor visibilities in falling and blowing snow. The 21.6 inch total measured at the Buffalo Airport was the greatest general (non-lake effect) snowfall in Buffalo in 24 years.

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Yep that's the storm I got in a really bad car accident in.

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Man it's been a crazy day here on the west side, i pushed at least 15 stuck cars on my street.. there is still a slushed up 6" on the side streets. We ended up with 9.8"..

 

 

I'm going to use your measurement for the official BUF storm total!! ;) ;p

 

My final call:

 

SYR: 6.8"

ROC: 17.5"

BUF: 9.8"

 

Whole storm..(ie, both  front end and back end for SYR)

 

Maxes of 27"...somewhere in the central finger lakes

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I recall a series of winter storms in Feb 14 - one of them brought 6-12 to WNY and did a bit better in CNY, and then there were a couple more that did better than that in CNY and ENY and barely grazed WNY. Albany had a snowfall that month that was bigger than any synoptic storm that I have seen in Buffalo since I moved here in 2012.

 

I don't think WNY has done all that great with synoptic storms since I've been here - Rochester got nailed this time, but memories are short among us weenies and I'm sure that by this time next winter ROC people will be just as annoyed as the rest of us at the annual Miller A 2 foot bomb along the I-95 corridor.

dont feel bad some of us not that far nw of that corridor are sick of watching that too while 50 to 100 miles nw chokes on arctic sand or cirrus

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