dmillz25 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 51 at the park. Sidewalks are a mess here. Almost fell 4 times walking to my car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 51 at the park. Sidewalks are a mess here. Almost fell 4 times walking to my car Pretty extreme to see a +50 degree temperature rise in just 48 hours. This is like a NYC version of the Chinook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Pretty extreme to see a +50 degree temperature rise in just 48 hours. This is like a NYC version of the Chinook. I remember back in January 1972 when the temperature was 62 at midnight on the 14th...it was the high for the 13th-14th...on the 16th the temperature dropped to 5 with a max of 15...the temperature rose to 57 on the 19th with some rain...We are in an up and down pattern and have been since early January... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 50 here now with winds picking up...snow pack being vaporized even w/o any rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I remember back in January 1972 when the temperature was 62 at midnight on the 14th...it was the high for the 13th-14th...on the 16th the temperature dropped to 5 with a max of 15...the temperature rose to 57 on the 19th with some rain...We are in an up and down pattern and have been since early January... That's why its so tough to see a negative departure month here since last spring as the cold shots have been transient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 That's why its so tough to see a negative departure month here since last spring as the cold shots have been transient. I said all along if we average 33.9 for February it would be 10 degrees warmer than February 2015 but still below average...as of yesterday February is averaging 34.0...It will go up this week and down next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I said all along if we average 33.9 for February it would be 10 degrees warmer than February 2015 but still below average...as of yesterday February is averaging 34.0...It will go up this week and down next week... It was pretty cool how the Arctic shot this past weekend blew away anything that we saw last February which was so much colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Looks like everyone saw the same 1.5"-3" of snow, including all 4 NYC metro stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Looks like everyone saw the same 1.5"-3" of snow, including all 4 NYC metro stations. The difference is that the interior held onto the freezing rain longer. It became pretty clear yesterday afternoon that just about everyone was going to lose the snow after 7PM give or take an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Looks like everyone saw the same 1.5"-3" of snow, including all 4 NYC metro stations. In the end it was almost like 2 storms, 1st part yesterday (overrunning/cold part) PM and 2nd part today mid-day on (warm part) The difference is that the interior held onto the freezing rain longer. It became pretty clear yesterday afternoon that just about everyone was going to lose the snow after 7PM give or take an hour. Some nasty ZR here last evening especially with the cold ground-we held onto icy surfaces longer due to the 2 days of 0-10 degree weather that preceded it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The difference is that the interior held onto the freezing rain longer. It became pretty clear yesterday afternoon that just about everyone was going to lose the snow after 7PM give or take an hour. It became clear 2-3 ago, that this would be an evenly split 1"-3" event for everyone , including the interior. Ice threat was minimal because it mostly occurred after 8pm yesterday and today's morning commute was fine for 95% of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It became clear 2-3 ago, that this would be an evenly split 1"-3" event for everyone , including the interior. Ice threat was minimal because it mostly occurred after 8pm yesterday and today's morning commute was fine for 95% of the population. The ice was a real problem for many areas North and West. It was only 34 degrees at home when I left for work at 7:45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The Washington DC radar looks very intense. Some of that will miss to the West but a good chunk of it should at least clip Western areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Was still 32 degrees here at 3:30 am but 43 at 4 am....currently 48 with light rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The Washington DC radar looks very intense. Some of that will miss to the West but a good chunk of it should at least clip Western areas. and also down to VA Beach area, that's the stuff that will get us later. Models in pretty good agreement of a 1.5-2 inch soaking in a short period of time this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The 4km brings the squall line through between 2 and 5 pm for most spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The ice was a real problem for many areas North and West. It was only 34 degrees at home when I left for work at 7:45. On my ride into work this morning, the temperature went from 31 to 48 degrees over a span of about 10 miles (Poughkeepsie to Fishkill). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Impressive 80 m winds on the 4km NAM with the squall line especially across the Long Island South Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 12Z RGEM ran totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The ice was a real problem for many areas North and West. It was only 34 degrees at home when I left for work at 7:45. I almost slipped today like 3 times and it was already 46° out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I almost slipped today like 3 times and it was already 40° out The ground was completely frozen and the departing airmass was extremely cold, so any untreated surfaces supported ice even with temps above freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Just had a downpour here. The rain is very convective in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The ground was completely frozen and the departing airmass was extremely cold, so any untreated surfaces supported ice even with temps above freezing. That's why it was smart for all districts to start late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I almost slipped today like 3 times and it was already 46° out Me too when it was in the 50s. I figured everything was melted but the walkway still had icy patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'm quite curious, (I may go outside and actually see if it's in fact true), with how long/cold it had been for past week or 2 and frozen ground/snow cover, I wonder if the ground is now 100% thawed out or not. I would think it was several inches thick frozen,maybe more or less, and that several inches at the surface only thawed?how long does it take the ground to actually thaw,with not much sun? Never actually looked before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The top inch or two might be a muddy mess, but it's unlikely the ground is thawed. I'm not sure where Orient, N.Y. is, but in northwest NJ, its not uncommon to have the frost line 2-3 feet deep. Granted this winter hasn't had sustained cold which may permit that, but I would think an easy 10-12 inches deep is rock hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'm on long island. We went as low as -5 almost -6, though my truck said -8... we had snow cover for majority of week.was looking around online, frost line for most in the forum ranges from 36-72 inches... from about the bottom of new Jersey all the way up to Canadian border. From below 0℉ to 50℉ minimal sunlight,(1.2 on UV sensor) ID imagine it would need to be warmer/warm and sunny for several days? ***Edit:average frost line during winter months...*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 The ice was a real problem for many areas North and West. It was only 34 degrees at home when I left for work at 7:45. Yeah was pretty bad this morning. They closed all schools up here. No way school buses were getting up these hills in those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I would tend to agree with you. Absent a prolonged warm period, without sub freezing nights, we are several weeks away from the ground being completely thawed. Mid/late March I would think. Last year may have been mid-April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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