ayuud11 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Early congrats to Hamilton, they are going to cash in very nice with this setup, they'll prolly downgrade the WSW into a freezing rain advisory for Nrn.Erie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'll wait for the Canadian and euro before I give up on this.. Rgem has the solution i was talking about. The op gem generally doesnt differ much imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Rgem has the solution i was talking about. The op gem generally doesnt differ much imo Good call.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Wanted to give you a guys a few storms from the book that I had no idea about that I thought were pretty amazing. The book starts with events from 1812. I'll only include the really big ones, there are tons of 1'+ storms in here. I'm missing quite a few and didn't include the ones after 1977 which most know of already. The surprising part was how many early/late season events there were throughout the last 200 or so years. Feb. 3-5 1845: 2 feet of snow across WNY. Drifts 10-12' in Buf and Roc Jan. 30-3, 1855: Deep snow pack was severely drifted. 10'+. Scenario was similar to 1977. Followed by extreme cold of -20 degs. Jan. 12-13 1856: Lake effect storm that hit Buffalo with 2 feet of snow + extreme winds with drifts over 8'. April 23 1859: 18" of general snow. Greatest April snowstorm in Buffalos history. Second major snowstorm in just over a month. Jan. 10-17 1865 31" in Buffalo Metro Dec 11, 1886: Buffalo received 26" of snow in 8 hours. A 12" general snowfall followed on the 16th. Jan 26-28 1867: Fierce winds whipped a deep snow pack (94" fell in Buffalo during Dec/Jan) 20' snow drifts. Nov. 15-19 1872- 34" of snow in suburbs of Buffalo Dec. 20-25 1878 General/LES: "The Great Christmas Storm" 39" with wind gusts of up to 72 MPH Jan. 7-9 1892 33" of snow with 44 MPH winds. April 10-11 1894. General snowfall of 30" with winds up to 26 MPH. Very heavy snow that brought down many trees/power lines. Jan. 12-15 1895: 26.5" with 40 MPH winds. Dec. 6-7, 1898: Lake effect snow of 3 1/2 feet with winds up to 54 MPH in Buffalo and suburbs Feb. 28th- March 2nd 1900: Buffalos largest ever synoptic storm. 40" of snow with winds up to 36 MPH. Dec. 15-17 1926: 3 feet of LES with winds up to 50 MPH. Blizzard conditions Dec. 17-18 1927. 4 feet of snow in Hamburg, winds up to 54 MPH. People trapped in homes. Oct. 18-19 1930: 4 feet of lake effect snow, stranding thousands of motorists and bringing down trees/power lines. Most destructive storm aside from 2006? Snowfall of 3-4' was common from Dunkirk to Hamburg. Dozens of roofs collapsed. Dec. 7-10 1937: Lake effect snow dropped 33.4" of snow. Hardest hit areas were the north towns of Buffalo. Winds up to 45 mph, with drifts approaching 20 feet. Dec. 12th, 1944. General snowstorm with 2 feet of snow throughout WNY. Dec. 15-17 1945: 71" of snow in Lancaster, 68" in Lackawanna. Buffalos third LES in under a month set a new 24 hr record if 24.3". Nov. 22-23 1956: 4 feet+ of LES with winds over 35 MPH. Nov. 22-23 1957: 4 feet of LES. Hardest hit were southtowns of Buffalo Dec. 5-10 1958: 5 feet of snow in southern tier. Nov. 29/30 1960: 3 feet of snow, hardest hit North of Buffalo/GEnesee counties. Jan. 22-23 1966: General snowstorm that dropped 36" of snow in southeastern suburbs of Buffalo. Nov 29th- Dec 2nd 1976: 4+ feet of LES in Buffalo and suburbs. Very cold temps below zero. Dec 24-25 1978: 3 feet of general snow fell throughout WNY. Up to 5" per hour was experienced in the southern tier, rates seldom received except in LES snowstorms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 1956 to 1958 were epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Also, all you northern suburbs people need to move south. Almost all of the hardest hit areas were south of Buffalo and the majority of large events feature the southtowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Well that's what the research showed. Just saying. I know, and thanks for sharing. I'm just wondering what you and others think about those numbers? Dont they seem quite high compared to past experience on ice events? I honestly start becoming very concerned about my home and trees at the .5" mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Euro is pretty much a non event imby..Looks about 0.2" of rain ..Kbuf sees a few inches but the heaviest stuff is to our NW..The storm runs from SW NY state to NE NY state, obviously not a great track.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 That's rubbish. All hell breaks lose by 1". I've seen storms with even less than that cause signicant issues. That said, this is a tough thing to quantify as there are many variables such as tree type, wind, amount of time since last ice event, time of year, Etc. But my god, to say that 1 inch isn't that bad unless there are strong winds is just crazy. I work in high voltage transmision, our experience is that we can tolerate up to 3/4" of ice pretty well, just scattered distribution level outages mainly from fallen limbs etc. At 1" or more it just gets progressively worse. At 1.5" of ZR accretion and higher, there are more widespread power outages and likely more complicated recovery with significant restoration times. I think the worst conditions are low winds and smaller droplet sizes that enable accretion to be more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I guess the concern tonight with substantial move nw with the low is that we stay below freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I guess the concern tonight with substantial move nw with the low is that we stay below freezing. You can see that icy mix line quiet nicely on the latest HRRR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Blah holy dryslot. 0.4 qpf in the city and on the some of the other 12z models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Euro has moved from BUF to max amounts at 12z yesterday to Owen Sound/Barrie 12z today..that's pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Oh look buf going with a high of 30 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 eh at this point lets see if we can hit 70 sometime next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Looks like YYZ is gonna make out quite well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Looks like YYZ is gonna make out quite well... Yes, for a change. usually it's Buffalo that gets a lot more than us. It looks like you guys might be in for some freezing rain...hopefully not too much ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Impressive zr sounding. Precip wont be sustantial enough to cause real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's currently 25F in N.F and raining! Roads are like ice skating rink.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm estimating about .10-.15" ice accumulation so far up here in N.F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm estimating about .10-.15" ice accumulation so far up here in N.F. Awesome! 27 in Niagara Falls, 29-30 in Hamburg, 53 in Salamanca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 #BREAKING: Police shut down the Skyway in both directions as freezing rain blankets local roadways in ice. There are accidents on both the inbound and outbound Skyway and the 198 is blocked off at the Niagara Street exit due to a massive pileup. Drivers urged caution and Sabres fans urged to find different route home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I thought it was windy last night. LOCATION MAX WIND TIME/DATE COMMENTSGUST OFMPH MEASUREMENTNEW YORK...ALLEGANY COUNTY...WELLSVILLE MUNICIPAL 46 743 PM 2/29 ASOS...ERIE COUNTY...BUFFALO AIRPORT 51 304 PM 2/29 ASOS...JEFFERSON COUNTY...FORT DRUM AIRFIELD 54 745 PM 2/29 AWOSWATERTOWN AIRPORT 48 729 PM 2/29 ASOS...NIAGARA COUNTY...NIAGARA FALLS AIRPOR 54 331 PM 2/29 ASOS...OSWEGO COUNTY...OSWEGO COUNTY AIRPOR 49 748 PM 2/29 ASOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 #BREAKING: Police shut down the Skyway in both directions as freezing rain blankets local roadways in ice. There are accidents on both the inbound and outbound Skyway and the 198 is blocked off at the Niagara Street exit due to a massive pileup. Drivers urged caution and Sabres fans urged to find different route home. Man I got lucky just passed that 198 15 mins ago and it was freaking ice skate rink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Its absolutely amazing to me how quickly this system became a non-event. The Euro has been absolute garbage as of late with the GFS and NAM not even in the running. From the looks of the Satellite, this system is starting to head NE which to me looks like it may in-fact go right over the lake, Lake Erie that is. I haven't been following this system as much as I usually do because after seeing the absolute debacle that was about to happen, I simply stopped the agony in its tracks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Just about to post that.. Guess the road crews didn't pre treat after the evening rush... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Its absolutely amazing to me how quickly this system became a non-event. The Euro has been absolute garbage as of late with the GFS and NAM not even in the running. From the looks of the Satellite, this system is starting to head NE which to me looks like it may in-fact go right over the lake, Lake Erie that is. I haven't been following this system as much as I usually do because after seeing the absolute debacle that was about to happen, I simply stopped the agony in its tracks, Actually it's more of an event here than anywhere in the USA. The amount of ice that has accumulated has a greater impact than 4-8" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Of my 13 yrs of living here in CNY this by, has been the worse hands down and right behind this one is 11-12, if I'm not mistaken and I would love to see upper 60's to lower 70's as all guidance is advertising after this next Clipper debacle where in any other year this Clipper would blow up as soon as it hits the coast, but this yr they just seem to scoot by unharming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Of my 13 yrs of living here in CNY this by, has been the worse hands down and right behind this one is 11-12, if I'm not mistaken and I would love to see upper 60's to lower 70's as all guidance is advertising after this next Clipper debacle where in any other year this Clipper would blow up as soon as it hits the coast, but this yr they just seem to scoot by unharming. 11-12 and 12-13 were worse here than this year for MBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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