UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm not trying to be an ass, I just dont think you understand what your looking at, your posting the inverted trough and upper level low, blowing up precip... It has nothing to do with the INITAL low being west... Cause it was not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 At 18Z on Monday, the low is 50 plus miles closer to the coast on 18Z GFS run. Precip shield looks unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 most of will mis the coastal. If we get the norlun trough..a few inches are possible. Big story will be the cold end of next week. Yeah, very brutal cold next weekend is possible. It's pointless though, because without snow it might as well be 40° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Anyway, GFS is very spotty with its snow totals, city still sees 4-6+ most are 2-4"/1-3" from the trough, who lollies of 6.. Easter Pa really makes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemost Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 fwiw... this is prob what psv was seeing with regards to the precip shield shifting west a bit... But getting back to reality, I'm inclined to weigh the meso's over the globals based on recent performance. Let's see what the 0z suite holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Yeah, very brutal cold next weekend is possible. It's pointless though, because without snow it might as well be 40° noruln trough on the GFS in 3-5 north. central Jersey and philly area 8-15 on the GFS If we get some snowpack, temps will be brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 fwiw... this is prob what psv was seeing with regards to the precip shield shifting west a bit... But getting back to reality, I'm inclined to weigh the meso's over the globals based on recent performance. Let's see what the 0z suite holds. That lightest green those maps show, is not precip that would be making it to ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 noruln trough on the GFS in 3-5 north. central Jersey and philly area 8-15 on the GFS If we get some snowpack, temps will be brutal We'll see if we can get any negative temperatures North and West. I probably won't beat my record low last year, but it will be downright cold nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemost Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 That lightest green those maps show, is not precip that would be making it to ground I don't disagree... just noting the difference (negligible at best) from the tropical tidbits map which could've been the discrepancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Most see .50, central jersey through EPA see .75+, a general 4-6 Norlun on GFS.... Still lots of time ahead, and the nam/RGEM intrigue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 If we can get That IVT to set further north, were in business with warning snows for most on GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The west shift people saw was the snow from a subtle lead vort in the main approaching upper wave from the west semi interacting with the coastal and or producing some light snow on its own. We have seen that occur before, most notably with 12/20/95 as the system pulled out and 12/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 18 GFS QPF through 120 hours. We will get snow going off this model run. Hoping to get 2-4 in my area for the cold end at the end of the week to get below zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I know the expressions been beat into the ground, but this will 100% be a nowcast radar watching event... Some will cash in with warning snows for sure IMO, no way us, or the models nail this down ahead of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I know the expressions been beat into the ground, but this will 100% be a nowcast radar watching event... Some will cash in with warning snows for sure IMO, no way us, or the models nail this down ahead of time I think there is a better chance this ends up more like a true coastal low than a norlun event, it won't really take that much of a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The west shift people saw was the snow from a subtle lead vort in the main approaching upper wave from the west semi interacting with the coastal and or producing some light snow on its own. We have seen that occur before, most notably with 12/20/95 as the system pulled out and 12/2004 Both decent storms no? And I remember 12/04 catching a lot of us off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I think there is a better chance this ends up more like a true coastal low than a norlun event, it won't really take that much of a change Almost every model takes the storm well east to not impact 80 % of this portal currently. Norlun event with the upper level low dropping down has been there for days. It will snow next week for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Discussion containing changed information from previous version are highlighted. -- 956 FXUS61 KOKX 062104 AFDOKX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 404 PM EST SAT FEB 6 2016 .SYNOPSIS... -- Changed Discussion -- HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS OVER THE REGION THROUGH SUNDAY. INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE SOUTHEAST US COAST WILL TRACK NORTHEAST...MOVING SOUTHEAST OF THE REGION SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. AN ACTIVE WINTER PATTERN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT WEEK AS SEVERAL WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE MAY IMPACT THE REGION. HIGH PRESSURE MAY RETURN AT THE END OF THE WEEK. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/... TRANQUIL CONDITIONS TODAY AS HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES IN JUST TO OUR SOUTH. A FILTERED SUNSHINE THROUGH HIGH CLOUDS AND WEAK WAA ON SW WINDS WILL HELP TEMPS RISE CLOSE TO SEASONAL NORMS. && .SHORT TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... -- Changed Discussion -- SPLIT FLOW WITH MODEL IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH A CLOSED UPPER LOW OFF THE SE US COAST SUN EVENING PIVOTING NE SUN NIGHT TO SE OF THE 40/70 BENCHMARK MONDAY MORNING. MEANWHILE A SECOND LARGER CLOSED LOW DEVELOPING LOW DIGS INTO THE EASTERN 1/2 OF THE COUNTRY THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THESE TWO SYSTEMS CONTINUES TO RESULT IN SUBTLE DIFFERENCES (150 MILE SPREAD) IN TRACK OF AN INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AS IT MOVES FROM OFF THE NC COAST SUN EVENING AND THEN SE OF THE 40/70 LAT/LON BENCHMARK ON MONDAY. THIS IS ACCENTUATING DIFFERENCES IN THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THE DEFORMATION BANDING AND PRECIP SHIELD...WITH SNOWFALL VARYING ANYWHERE FROM A TRACE TO INCH FROM W TO E (GFS/ECMWF)...OR TRACE TO 2 INCHES WEST TO 2 TO 4 INCHES EAST (GEM/NAM). OVERALL...A SLIGHT EASTWARD AND DRIER TREND HAS BEEN NOTED WITH THE 12Z GUIDANCE VERSUS 00Z. IN TERMS OF ENSEMBLES...WESTERN LYING 15Z SREF MEAN IS HOLDING FIRM WITH AROUND 1/2 TO 1 INCH QPF ACROSS THE REGION WITH MEAN LYING IN THE MIDDLE OF A TRI- MODAL PATTERN. MEANWHILE 12Z GEFS HAS MEAN OF .05 TO .1 INCH QPF AREAWIDE...WHICH IS BETWEEN THE STRONG CLUSTERING AROUND THE OPERATIONAL GFS OF ONLY A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH AREA WIDE...TO A HANDFUL OF MEMBERS WITH 1/4 TO 1/2 INCH QPF. 00Z AND 12Z SBU ENSEMBLE SENSITIVITY INDICATING ENSEMBLE SPREAD IS ON THE NW SIDE OF THE GEFS/ECMWF/CMC ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR THE LOW TRACK...WITH SENSITIVITY LYING IN THE STRENGTH AND INTERACTION OF THE AFORE MENTIONED UPPER LOWS. THIS NW SPREAD PATTERN...HAS MANY TIMES FAVORED WESTERN MOST SOLUTIONS OR WESTWARD TREND IN LOW PRESSURE TRACK. BASED ON THE ABOVE...HESITANT TO MAKE MANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT FORECAST...PARTICULARLY TOWARDS THE DRIER DETERMINISTIC TREND. A BLEND OF DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE QPF PROBS INDICATING INCREASING LIKELIHOOD FOR LIGHT PRECIP TO DEVELOP LATE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING EAST OF NYC AND HUDSON RIVER. LOWER PROBS FOR MEASURABLE PRECIP WEST OF THE NYC METRO AND HUDSON RIVER. PRECIP SHOULD MAINLY BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW...BUT MAY INITIALLY START AS A MIX WITH RAIN ACROSS EASTERN LI DUE TO WARM BOUNDARY LAYER. WILL CONTINUE WITH A GOING FORECAST FOR LATE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY WITH... A LIKELY SCENARIO OF A DUSTING TO COUPLE INCHES ACROSS NYC METRO AND POINTS WEST AND 2 TO 4 INCHES TOWARDS EASTERN LI AND SE CT. A CHANCE SCENARIO FOR A WESTWARD SHIFT...AND DOUBLING OF THESE AMOUNTS. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/... -- Changed Discussion -- CONFIDENCE THIS PERIOD IS LOW AS MODELS AND ENSEMBLES HAVE NOT COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH A POTENTIALLY ACTIVE WINTER PATTERN FOR THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. INTENSE OFFSHORE LOW WILL CONTINUE MOVING FURTHER NE AWAY FROM COAST MONDAY NIGHT. RIGHT BEHIND THIS SYSTEM IS THE CONTINUATION OF A VERY ANOMALOUS PATTERN. BASED ON THE 12Z GEFS...THE WESTERN NORTH AMERICA RIDGING HEIGHT ANOMALIES ARE BETWEEN 2 AND 3 SD ABOVE NORMAL. THE LONGWAVE TROUGH DIGGING INTO THE EASTERN STATES IS BETWEEN 3 AND 4 SD BELOW NORMAL. THIS TYPE OF PATTERN IS USUALLY CAUSE FOR CONCERN AND MODELS AND ENSEMBLES ARE SHOWING QUITE A LARGE SPREAD WITH IMPORTANT FEATURES AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT. SOME OF THIS COULD BE WITH HOW THEY HANDLE THE FIRST LOW THAT MOVES AWAY FROM THE COAST MONDAY NIGHT. MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...A VERY ENERGETIC LONGWAVE TROUGH SETS UP OVER THE EASTERN STATES. A PARENT LOW IS PROGGED TO MOVE ACROSS THE LAKES...TRANSFERRING SOMEWHERE NEAR THE MIDDLE ATLANTIC COAST. THIS NEW WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE WILL THEN MOVE ENE AWAY FROM THE COAST TO SOMEWHERE INVOF OF THE 40/70 BENCHMARK. THERE IS A GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH THIS AMONG THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS...BUT THEY VARY IN HOW PRECIPITATION IS GENERATED DUE TO PLACEMENT OF UPPER LEVEL ENERGY AND AMPLITUDE OF THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. THEY SEEM TO BE KEYING ON AN INVERTED TROUGH TYPE SIGNATURE. THE 12Z GFS/GEFS/CMC/CMC ENSEMBLE SEEM TO HAVE THIS SETTING UP NEAR THE AREA FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY. THE 12Z ECMWF HAS THIS SETTING UP A BIT FURTHER SOUTH AWAY FROM OUR CWA. THE 15Z SREF MEAN IS SIMILAR TO THE ECMWF IDEA AS WELL AS THE 12Z NAM. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ENERGY WITHIN THIS TROUGH AND SUBTLE CHANGES COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHERE BEST LIFT SETS UP. MODELS HAVE ALSO SHOWN PRETTY DRASTIC CHANGES WITH IMPORTANT DYNAMICS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS...WHICH LEADS TO A LOWER THAN NORMAL CONFIDENCE FOR THIS TIME PERIOD. WILL HOLD ONTO LIKELY POPS THROUGH THIS TIME FRAME. FEEL CONTINUITY IS THE WAY TO GO HERE AND HOPEFULLY AS WE GET CLOSER...WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA FOR WHERE THE INVERTED TROUGH AND BEST LIFT FROM UPPER ENERGY WILL SET UP. THE TAKE HOME MESSAGE IS ACCUMULATING LIGHT SNOW IS POSSIBLE AT SOME POINT MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT PERIOD. WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...LOW PRESSURE MOVES FURTHER NE ON WEDNESDAY...BUT ANOMALOUS TROUGH IS LIKELY TO REMAIN OVERHEAD. CANNOT RULE OUT LIGHT SNOW WEDNESDAY...BUT FOR NOW IT APPEARS BEST LIFT SHIFTS EAST OF THE AREA. UPPER TROF AXIS SHIFTS EAST THURSDAY. POPS TAPER DOWN TO CHANCE WEDNESDAY AND THEN SLIGHT CHANCE ON THURSDAY. FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT CROSSES THE REGION FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT AS DEEP UPPER LOW SETS UP ACROSS SOUTHEAST CANADA. THE FRONT SHOULD MOVE THROUGH DRY AS BEST MOISTURE AXIS HAS SHIFTED OFFSHORE FROM EARLIER WEEK ACTIVITY. ARCTIC HIGH BUILDS INTO THE AREA SATURDAY. THE 12Z ECMWF HAS 850 HPA TEMPS DROPPING TO BETWEEN -22C TO -26C. FORECAST TEMPERATURES ARE BELOW NORMAL THROUGHOUT THE LONG TERM...WITH INCREASING PROBABILITY OF A SHOT OF ARCTIC AIR AND WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AT THE WEEK AND NEXT WEEKEND. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .AVIATION /20Z SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... -- Changed Discussion -- HIGH PRES BUILDS OVER THE REGION WILL MOVE OFFSHORE TONIGHT. VFR THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. SW WINDS AROUND 10 KT WILL DIMINISH TO LESS THAN 10 KT THIS EVENING. .OUTLOOK FOR 21Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY... .SUNDAY AFTERNOON...VFR. WINDS 5 KT OR LESS. .SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY...SUB-VFR POSSIBLE IN -SN... ESPECIALLY FOR CT AND LONG ISLAND TERMINALS. NE WINDS AROUND 15 KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT. .TUESDAY...SUB-VFR CONDS LIKELY IN SNOW. MIXED PRECIP POSSIBLE NEAR THE COAST. .WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...SUB-VFR POSSIBLE IN -SN. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .MARINE... -- Changed Discussion -- SUB-ADVSY CONDS WILL PREVAIL ON ALL WATERS THROUGH SUNDAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE TO OUR SOUTH. WINDS GUSTS AROUND 20 KT LIKELY THROUGH THIS EVENING ON THE OCEAN AND EASTERN LI...WITH SEAS BUILDING TO AROUND 4 FT ON THE EASTERN OCEAN WATERS. AN AREA OF LOW PRES DEVELOPS OFF THE SE COAST SUNDAY...INTENSIFYING AS IT TRACKS NE. THE PRES GRADIENT WILL TIGHTEN SUN NIGHT WITH GALE FORCE WINDS EXPECTED ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN OCEAN WATERS AFTER MIDNIGHT AND CONTINUING INTO MONDAY. POTENTIAL FOR GALES ON THE WESTERN OCEAN WATERS AND EASTERN LI SOUND/BAYS. SCA CONDITIONS EXPECTED ON REMAINDER OF THE WATERS. THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TRACK OF LOW PRESSURE...AND IF IT TRACKS CLOSER TO THE COAST...THE GALE THREAT WILL MOVE WESTWARD. SCA IS LIKELY ON MOST WATERS TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AS SEVERAL WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE ARE FORECAST TO PASS NEAR THE WATERS. WINDS MAY TEMPORARILY DECREASE TUE NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY...BUT SEAS ON THE OCEAN WILL REMAIN ABOVE 5 FT. WINDS THEN INCREASE ABOVE SCA LATE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .HYDROLOGY... -- Changed Discussion -- WIDESPREAD LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY LATE SUNDAY NIGHT THRU MON...WITH LOW PROB FOR MODERATE PRECIP. MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE PCPN THAT FALLS LIKELY TO BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW ATTM. WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE MON NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PRECIPITATION THAT FALLS SHOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... -- Changed Discussion -- POTENTIAL FOR MINOR COASTAL IMPACTS MONDAY INTO MIDWEEK WITH A NEW MOON ON MONDAY AND A SERIES OF LOW PRESSURES AFFECTING THE REGION. AN INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE WILL HAVE NE/N WINDS INCREASING TO POTENTIALLY GALE FORCE SUNDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING INTO MONDAY. BASED ON A TRACK OF INTENSIFYING LOW THAT SHOULD BE SE OF THE 40/70 LAT/LON BENCHMARK AND COLD AIR DAMMING SIGNATURE...WOULD EXPECT POTENTIAL FOR WINDS TO BE BACKED MORE TO THE N THAN NE. THIS WOULD FAVOR THE LOWER SURGE GUIDANCE FOR MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT HIGH TIDE CYCLES...WHICH WOULD KEEP IMPACTS MINOR AND LIKELY LIMITED TO THE MOST VULNERABLE LOCALES. WILL HAVE TO MONITOR. AS WE HEAD INTO TUESDAYS HIGH TIDAL CYCLES...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR WINDS TO VEER MORE TO THE NE AS ADDITIONAL WAVE/S OF LOW PRESSURE TRACK TO THE SOUTH OF THE REGION. THE SPRING ASTRO TIDES AND MULTI- TIDAL CYCLE NATURE OF THE EVENT WILL FAVOR ADDITIONAL MINOR FLOODING...WITH POTENTIAL FOR WIDESPREAD MINOR TO MODERATE IMPACTS IN THE BACK BAY AREAS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. -- End Changed Discussion -- && .OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... -- Changed Discussion -- CT...NONE. NY...NONE. NJ...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM MIDNIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT TO 6 PM EST MONDAY FOR ANZ335-338-345. GALE WATCH FROM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON FOR ANZ330-340-355. GALE WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT TO 6 PM EST MONDAY FOR ANZ350-353. -- End Changed Discussion -- && $$ SYNOPSIS...DS/NV NEAR TERM...NV SHORT TERM...NV LONG TERM...DS AVIATION...MPS MARINE...DS/NV HYDROLOGY...DS/NV TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The west shift people saw was the snow from a subtle lead vort in the main approaching upper wave from the west semi interacting with the coastal and or producing some light snow on its own. We have seen that occur before, most notably with 12/20/95 as the system pulled out and 12/2004 Any chance for a capture here? Snowcane at sea capturing some energy on shore...as opposed to being pushed out to sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The NavGEM interestingly at 42 hours has light snow for the eastern half of LI, the last few events the NavGEM has definitely exhibited its usual slight progressive bias but at times has been west of the globals at day 2-3, this definitely has a chance still but has to happen on tonight's globals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just checking out past 5 runs on eps, if the past 5 it would seem it's north every other run lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophisticated Skeptic Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Here ya go, hour 54, much much better look Do you have idea of the set-up or are you just clueless?...HR 60 has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INITAL WAVE.. For the 3rd time.. That is the ULL, aka the 2nd wave.. The INITAL storm is OTS, aka fish storm.... dunno why you guys were going to town so hard. 18z GFS did shift west. (slightly) give him at-least a touch of credit. geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Gefs interestingly past 3 runs has been fairly consistent in low placement on Monday, it's west of its 00z run and held its ground 06,and 12z runs... Now for the ensembles, Basically same thing. Very little change since 00z Minus lower pressures.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Dont have time to clean this up right now, but jfc. Act like adults or find somewhere else to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 dunno why you guys were going to town so hard. 18z GFS did shift west. (slightly) give him at-least a touch of credit. geez He said a100 mile shift, and we were going to town cause I was defending my original post, stating the storm was OTS.. When that was called poor analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Remember the west trend this winter. Going to be a very interesting week regardless. The most wintery of the winter!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 12z and 18 z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Regardless of whether or not the low itself tracked slight west...does NOT change the fact the storm is still 200+ OTS on the GFS, and the precip doesn't make it to the coast like the nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm sorry I did not post on this earlier. First do not look for the global models to catch the 1st wave here . Wave 1 may not escape , here's why . The mesoscale models are closing the N branch off almost 12 hours earlier than any of the globals. So the NAM RGEM and the SREFS at 500 show the earlier NEG tilt earlier out of the N branch This N energy which ultimately become your IVT influences the backside of the 1st wave and it will in essence tug the low closer to the coast. The globals will be the last too it because they may not be seeing the N branch correctly You have a large deep Miller A heading off the GA coast to E of the BM is a pos enso year. This SW should follow the warm SST and track closer to the coast. As the system gets to our latitude it produces a large deformation band. Look at the NAM VV you can see it expand W over LI into NYC and down the NJ shore. The models will continue to correct W and if this analysis is correct the NAM.and RGEM will lead the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Dont have time to clean this up right now, but jfc. Act like adults or find somewhere else to post. Thank you! Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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