Thrasher Fan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'd say it's closer to 170 miles north. Its a 180 mile north to south drive from Raleigh to Myrtle Beach and Myrtle Beach is the same latitude as Atlanta. Maybe by paved road, but by direct route it's less than 150 miles from Raleigh to Myrtle Beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Maybe by paved road, but by direct route it's less than 150 miles from Raleigh to Myrtle Beach 150 miles is a large distance when you're talking about snow, especially in the south. Its about the same distance as Atlanta and albany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Fan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 150 miles is a large distance when you're talking about snow, especially in the south. Its about the same distance as Atlanta and albany. The point is, the triangle of NC averages only an inch more yearly on average than Atlanta. He wish casts snow totals that Boone or Banner Elk receives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hopefully me and Oconeexman can avoid a repeat of this on Monday.. (February 11, 2014) man, that one hurt me and I didnt even get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'd say it's closer to 170 miles north. Its a 180 mile north to south drive from Raleigh to Myrtle Beach and Myrtle Beach is the same latitude as Atlanta. Maybe by paved road, but by direct route it's less than 150 miles from Raleigh to Myrtle Beach Atlanta and Myrtle Beach are basically the same latitude. Both are ~140 miles to Raleigh. Atlanta: 33.7550° N Myrtle Beach: 33.7167° N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There is a lot of stupid people on this site tonight. https://www.sercc.com/climateinfo/historical/avgsnowfall.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There is a lot of stupid people on this site tonight. https://www.sercc.com/climateinfo/historical/avgsnowfall.html I wouldn't call anyone stupid. Maybe misinformed, ignorant if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlee Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 LOL Hatteras averages basically the same as ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84 Hour NAM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The point is, the triangle of NC averages only an inch more yearly on average than Atlanta. He wish casts snow totals that Boone or Banner Elk receives. The point is, the triangle of NC averages only an inch more yearly on average than Atlanta. He wish casts snow totals that Boone or Banner Elk receives. That's not true. RDU averages 7.5 inches a year compared to ATLs 2.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 We may be comparing 30 year averages to the long term. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Those averages are very deceiving. Atlanta doesn't get squat in most years. Once every 5 or 10 years ATL may get a 3-4" snow. I'm talking at the airport where the official observations are. Obviously areas like Kennesaw, alpharetta, Suwanee, etc get more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Fan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 We may be comparing 30 year averages to the long term. Just saying. I guess I should have noted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmettoweather Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hopefully me and Oconeexman can avoid a repeat of this on Monday.. (February 11, 2014) Burrel, just makes it look like the nuclear station is zapping all the snow haha, the snow hole up here is real. BTW, where did you get that pic from, that is awesome, I'd like to look at other storms if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Is this too much to ask for on Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hopefully me and Oconeexman can avoid a repeat of this on Monday.. (February 11, 2014) I've always been confused about why your location says Central SC but your avatar has a county in upstate SC highlighted. Then I figured out there's a town in SC called Central lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmettoweather Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 In easy, short terms I believe the control is a form of the main Operational run at a lower resolution. Then that control run has little changes applied and each member come up with a forecast of it's own with those little changes. In experience, if an ensemble mean, members, or SOMETIMES the control run vary greatly from the operational run, some digging needs to be done to figure out why. Ensembles are a wonderful thing. Thanks for the explanation! Still trying to pick this stuff up, but at least this makes more sense to me now. Sounds like initialization plays an even bigger part of modeling than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 So how about those Carolina Panthers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Burrel, just makes it look like the nuclear station is zapping all the snow haha, the snow hole up here is real. BTW, where did you get that pic from, that is awesome, I'd like to look at other storms if possible. I had that picture saved on my computer from the day it happened. I'm a glutton for punishment i guess. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I've always been confused about why your location says Central SC but your avatar has a county in upstate SC highlighted. Then I figured out there's a town in SC called Central lol. Lol, yea, that's why I put the map as my avatar. Before I did that everyone assumed I was from Columbia, ewww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerchick224 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Is this too much to ask for on Monday? Clearly not! This is quite possibly the best thing ever. Why can't clown maps ever come to fruition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Lol, yea, that's why I put the map as my avatar. Before I did that everyone assumed I was from Columbia, ewww. I just figured that you used live in upstate SC but you moved to the Columbia area. I noticed the comma after Central but I still just assumed that you lived in Columbia. Ive never heard of a town called Central so I assumed there was no such town lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherokeeGA Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Thanks for the explanation! Still trying to pick this stuff up, but at least this makes more sense to me now. Sounds like initialization plays an even bigger part of modeling than I thought. It works best if you stop thinking of models as the product. The art you see is a simple visual reflecting the potential resolutions of the math problem. Models are math. If you make a mistake on step 1 or 2 (bad initialization, for example), everything that follows is going to be off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Fan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Is this too much to ask for on Monday? lock it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 So how about those Carolina Panthers? Too soon, man! Too soon! How bout those Tigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It works best if you stop thinking of models as the product. The art you see is a simple visual reflecting the potential resolutions of the math problem. Models are math. If you make a mistake on step 1 or 2 (bad initialization, for example), everything that follows is going to be off. Very good explanation on "numerical" models. I can't think of one time a model has ever been 100% correct outside 24 hours and that might be pushing it. They are guidance to possibility and it's up to the ones with meteorological degrees to come up with a sensible forecast. In fact, it is ridiculous how people try to talk bad about professional meteorologists because they aren't talking about an event or willing to pull a trigger because of a few model runs. It's almost like if someone on television says it is possible or a forecast discussion hints at some p-type issues, that the modeling is totally correct and they may as well add it to the forecast right away. In fact, that same thing happens with advisories, watches, and warnings. I could go on forever, but again, great point you made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There is a lot of stupid people on this site tonight. https://www.sercc.com/climateinfo/historical/avgsnowfall.html pack is back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oconeexman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hopefully me and Oconeexman can avoid a repeat of this on Monday.. (February 11, 2014)That one still stings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSNOW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Great game up in Boston tonight. Really enjoying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 heck, even Birmingham and columbia get big snowfalls more frequently than Atlanta. In fact, name me one city in the entire stretch of I-20 that gets big snows as infrequently as Atlanta does. Its been 33 years since Atlanta has had a 6" snow. Even areas south of Atlanta have had bigger snows than Atlantas biggest snow. I think Columbus to Macon had like a foot of snow or more in the 70s. I'm not sure Atlanta has ever had a double digit snowfall. The southeast US generally tends to do better when the Atlantic is in the cold AMO phase and or the Atlantic is in the inactive hurricane phase. They tend to coincide. I would bet if you look at the snow data for most southeast cities you will see that there was a drop in snow in the 1944-1968 period when the Atlantic hurricane phase was active much like there maybe has been since 93 and 94 when its been active again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSNOW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 All kidding aside, hate ol Roy just passed out. The vertigo stuff he has must be rough. My dad has that mess he's 75. Hope roys ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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