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Central PA Jan 22-24 "The NortheastPAWx Special" storm obs/banter


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if the storm reports that just came in are close in Columbia County, 1" near Benton, and 14" in Catawissa (just south of Bloomsburg). 21" just reported in Ashland near the Columbia/Schuykill county line. distance between Catawissa and Benton as the crows fly, ~19 miles. Ashland same way, about 30 miles.

 

we knew it was going to be a nasty gradient, but this is just nuts.

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Please clarify how the official measurements get recorded for snow ?

I thought it was the hourly totals added up, so compaction & drifting should not be a big factor ?

MDT needs to get this right!

I don't know and am always confused how they do their official measurements but what gets reported as snowfall is supposed to be the highest amount measured on your snow board/etc in the 24 hour period.  It just seems like what gets measured as current depth gets reported as total snowfall for storm. So if they have 12" one hour and say 2" fell in the next hour, I don't understand how they can report a depth of 13" instead of 14".  Sure over the course of the event there is settling and compacting but not as quick as their reports indicate with the dry/fluffy snow that fell quickly this morning.

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been tough to measure the last few hours but my max so far is 24"... another thought i had is that yea we are sometimes hard on state college nws office but they were one of first to jump up forecast and jump big and their move and numbers are looking really good right about now

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At 2:00pm I had picked up an additional 0.7" in the past hour as the accumulation intensity has collapsed in rather dramatic fashion.  This is the first hour with less than 2" in an hour since I got up back at 7:30.

 

Storm total now is 31.7".  HRRR earlier seemed to keep good accumulations going through until 7:00pm, but at the moment, the radar is rapidly looking weaker and weaker.  I only need 4.3" to reach 36.  Drifts around my home are pretty amazing.  I have a five foot drift at my front door at the moment.  No plows have come through our subdivision since 2:00am...so there's over 2 feet on the street which basically is stranding everyone from even getting out of their driveways.  Hopefully no medical emergencies.

 

Peak gust so far has been 26mph.  Temp up to 24.2 degrees with just light snow falling at the moment.

 

Does anyone have the link to send spotter report to CTP?

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18.75" here in Tamaqua.

 

"Death band" to the south of me in the Lehigh Valley, but it's pushing south now instead of the earlier northwest movements the bands had. I've also noticed that the northern edge of the precip shield seems to moving toward the southeast now as well, so I wonder if things are going to be winding down slowly here over the next few hours.

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA
130 PM EST SAT JAN 23 2016

OBSERVATIONS ARE COLLECTED FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES WITH VARYING
EQUIPMENT AND EXPOSURE. NOT ALL DATA LISTED ARE CONDSIDERED OFFICIAL.
THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT
WEATHER.GOV/STATECOLLEGE

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

PENNSYLVANIA

...ADAMS COUNTY...
   YORK SPRINGS          25.5  1259 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 S CASHTOWN          21.0  1102 AM  1/23  CO-OP OBSERVER
   ORRTANNA              21.0   948 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LITTLESTOWN           19.0  1051 AM  1/23  4 IN THE PAST 2 HOURS
   ABBOTTSTOWN           18.5  1110 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   GETTYSBURG            16.0   942 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...BEDFORD COUNTY...
   4 W MANNS CHOICE      26.0   951 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   IMLER                 25.0   955 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   9 S BEDFORD           21.8  1140 AM  1/23  PUBLIC
   4 N BEDFORD           21.0  1030 AM  1/23  FIRE DEPT/RESCUE
   3 WNW SCHELLSBURG     19.0  1025 AM  1/23  COCORAHS
   CHANEYSVILLE          17.0  1215 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...BLAIR COUNTY...
   PUZZLETOWN            22.0  1036 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ROARING SPRING        21.0   101 PM  1/23  BROADCAST MEDIA
   HOLLIDAYSBURG         21.0  1151 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   5 E CRESSON           20.0  1244 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ALTOONA               19.2  1206 PM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE

...CAMBRIA COUNTY...
   JOHNSTOWN             22.0  1006 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WESTMONT              19.0   948 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LORETTO               18.0  1024 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LILLY                 18.0  1114 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...CENTRE COUNTY...
   BOALSBURG              9.0  1255 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SPRING MILLS           8.3  1059 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 SSW LINDEN HALL      7.6  1208 PM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE
   STATE COLLEGE          7.0  1030 AM  1/23  BROADCAST MEDIA
   LEMONT                 6.1  1200 PM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE
   MILLHEIM               5.5  1200 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 NNE STATE COLLEGE    5.5  1216 PM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE
   1 SE PINE HALL         5.0  1009 AM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE
   STORMSTOWN             5.0  1139 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   PORT MATILDA           5.0   959 AM  1/23  NWS EMPLOYEE
   TOFTREES               5.0  1040 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   NWS STATE COLLEGE      5.0  1117 AM  1/23  NWS OFFICE
   WADDLE                 4.0   930 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER

...CLEARFIELD COUNTY...
   COALPORT               6.0  1039 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...COLUMBIA COUNTY...
   CATAWISSA             10.0  1040 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LIME RIDGE             8.0  1041 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BERWICK                7.0  1039 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
   7 S NEWVILLE          27.0  1254 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BOILING SPRINGS       26.0  1230 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   CARLISLE              26.0   105 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   MECHANICSBURG         26.0   115 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   NEW CUMBERLAND        24.0  1247 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WORMLEYSBURG          23.0  1000 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CAMP HILL             22.0   953 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ENOLA                 18.0  1002 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LOWER ALLEN           15.5  1023 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MYERSTOWN             14.0  1000 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER

...DAUPHIN COUNTY...
   COLONIAL PARK         24.0  1000 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SKYLINE VIEW          22.0   108 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   HARRISBURG            22.0  1139 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MILLERSBURG           20.1  1130 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LINGLESTOWN           20.0  1215 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   GRANTVILLE            19.0  1037 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ELIZABETHVILLE        19.0  1215 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HERSHEY               18.0  1046 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HIGHSPIRE             18.0  1034 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HARRISBURG INTERNATI  18.0  1200 PM  1/23  ASOS
   HUMMELSTOWN           16.0  1200 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   CHAMBERSBURG          26.0  1248 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MONT ALTO             25.0   958 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   FAYETTEVILLE          25.0  1000 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   TUSCARORA SUMMIT      24.0  1030 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WAYNESBORO            24.0  1258 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   METAL                 20.0  1031 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BLUE RIDGE SUMMIT     16.0   952 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...FULTON COUNTY...
   MCCONNELLSBURG        20.0  1200 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...HUNTINGDON COUNTY...
   MARKLESBURG           24.0  1118 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HUNTINGDON            19.5  1004 AM  1/23  PUBLIC
   ROCKHILL              19.0  1000 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...JUNIATA COUNTY...
   PORT ROYAL            18.5  1130 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...LANCASTER COUNTY...
   NEW HOLLAND           24.0  1100 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 NNE BLAINSPORT      23.0  1056 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MILLERSVILLE          21.0  1128 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LITITZ                21.0  1245 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   3 W LANCASTER         20.5  1121 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   COLUMBIA              20.0  1240 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MOUNT JOY             18.0  1110 AM  1/23  SHERIFF OFFICE
   1 W DONEGAL SPRINGS   18.0  1120 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LANCASTER             16.0   930 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ELIZABETHTOWN         16.0  1020 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   EPHRATA               14.0  1100 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...LEBANON COUNTY...
   PALMYRA               24.5   115 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LEBANON               24.0   123 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   ROCKWOOD              24.0  1113 AM  1/23  SHERIFF OFFICE
   MOUNT GRETNA          20.0  1200 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   3 SSE PALMYRA         17.1  1215 PM  1/23  COCORAHS
   SCHAEFFERSTOWN        16.0  1000 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...LYCOMING COUNTY...
   MONTGOMERY             1.5  1021 AM  1/23  PUBLIC

...MIFFLIN COUNTY...
   BELLEVILLE            18.0  1126 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LEWISTOWN             14.0  1048 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ALFARATA              12.0  1049 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SIGLERVILLE           10.0   951 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...MONTOUR COUNTY...
   DANVILLE               8.7  1047 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY...
   HERNDON               22.0  1136 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SHAMOKIN              18.4   114 PM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MOUNT CARMEL          16.0  1250 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   8 E SUNBURY           10.5   945 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NORTHUMBERLAND         8.0   948 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MONTANDON              7.0  1242 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   MILTON                 3.3  1124 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...PERRY COUNTY...
   LOYSVILLE             20.0  1041 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   NEW BLOOMFIELD        19.5  1130 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...SCHUYLKILL COUNTY...
   PINE GROVE            23.0  1246 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   TREMONT               19.5  1245 PM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   POTTSVILLE            19.5   124 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   TOWER CITY            18.0   939 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ORWIGSBURG            16.0  1130 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   CRESSONA              16.0  1144 AM  1/23  PUBLIC
   2 W TAMAQUA           13.5  1123 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...SNYDER COUNTY...
   FREEBURG              14.0  1232 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   MIDDLEBURG            10.5  1049 AM  1/23  SHERIFF OFFICE

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
   7 SE WINDBER          31.0   107 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   CAIRNBROOK            30.0   100 PM  1/23  PUBLIC
   FERRELLTON            26.0  1229 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SOMERSET              22.5   959 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MEYERSDALE            18.0   950 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA

...UNION COUNTY...
   MIFFLINBURG            7.5  1230 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LEWISBURG              5.5  1000 AM  1/23  STORM CHASER

...YORK COUNTY...
   GOLDSBORO             26.5   100 PM  1/23  AMATEUR RADIO
   AIRVILLE              25.5  1256 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   DOVER                 25.0  1052 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   REESERS SUMMIT        24.0  1157 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   EAST YORK             23.0  1110 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   STRINESTOWN           23.0  1145 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   DILLSBURG             22.0  1000 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LEWISBERRY            21.5  1009 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HANOVER               21.0  1120 AM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   SEVEN VALLEYS         20.0  1105 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER
   YOE                   19.0  1239 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   YORK                  19.0  1215 PM  1/23  SOCIAL MEDIA
   2 S YORK              18.5  1112 AM  1/23  TRAINED SPOTTER

Impressive storm totals for a large portion of central PA.

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MAG

Curious as to how much you have in Bellwood?

Make it to 12"?

 

10.7" was the best I could do. The gradient is insane, Altoona and Hollidaysburg (8-10 miles south of here) have 19.2" and 21" reports respectively. Pretty interesting watching the radar last night, as I was under nearly the same kind of echoes a lot of the time but it never seemed like the rates matched the radar overhead.. but apparently it did just south of here. Also been under echoes the last several hours and it had only snowed for about half an hour of that time. 

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Mag, what do you make of the current radar presentation? I know the storm has to move out at some point, but what I've noticed is that moisture is still moving east to west in from the ocean over New Jersey, but out this way, the northwestern edge seems to be slowly collapsing southeast. Is it dry air pushing in, or does the storm still pivot and build back to the northwest?

 

Our heavy snow has lightened up somewhat, and the "death band" I alluded to over Allentown is slowly creeping southeast.

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Pretty good cutoff below Harrisburg city. I believe that measurement. Elizabethtown is 8 miles from the airport and they were reporting 16". 

 

We missed out on that epic band you were under for hours. 

They are pushing just about 2.5" of QPF from the start so the snow total is also not aligning with this measurement.

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Pretty good cutoff below Harrisburg city. I believe that measurement. Elizabethtown is 8 miles from the airport and they were reporting 16".

We missed out on that epic band you were under for hours.

I think etown must have been caught I between because just east of there many stations reporting 2' plus also.

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