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January 22-23 Mid Atlantic Storm Thread #2 - No Banter


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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:22 AM, Bob Chill said:

It's a 30 hour storm that goes through massive transformation right over our heads...

The obs thread will have numerous "thunder!!!!!!" reports

1983 got discussed a lot this year and the timing is off but the basic pattern is there.

Thats heaviest thundersnow for me ever and 3"ph rates.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:28 AM, Tenman Johnson said:

1983 got discussed a lot this year and the timing is off but the basic pattern is there.

Thats heaviest thundersnow for me ever and 3"ph rates.

Me too. Incredible rates sustained for a 6-8 hour period. This upcoming event is modeled to be over 30 hours, 1983 was about 16 hours if I remember correctly.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:29 AM, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

With the modeled winds and extreme snowfall, especially around 105 hours out, some places would hypothetically reach PDS Blizzard Warnings seen during the bust last year

 

What is a PDS blizzard warning? Don't believe there is a such thing.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:22 AM, Bob Chill said:

It's a 30 hour storm that goes through massive transformation right over our heads...

The obs thread will have numerous "thunder!!!!!!" reports

Jan 1987 snowstorm, I think it may have been Jan 22, thundersnow dumped 6 inches in ten minutes.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:33 AM, andyhb said:

What is a PDS blizzard warning? Don't believe there is a such thing.

Pretty much the NWS using enhanced wording, extremely dangerous and life threatening is usually what they say.

A couple products during the bust last year said "particularly dangerous storm' and the actual Particularly Dangerous Situation tag has been used on winter products out in Normans CWA during blizzards before

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:36 AM, midatlanticweather said:

particularly dangerous situation blizzard

 

Yes I know what it stands for.

 

  On 1/19/2016 at 5:37 AM, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Pretty much the NWS using enhanced wording, extremely dangerous and life threatening is usually what they say.

A couple products during the bust last year said "particularly dangerous storm' and the actual Particularly Dangerous Situation tag has been used on winter products out in Normans CWA during blizzards before

 

That's not an official product though. Don't think there's any need for something beyond a blizzard warning in terms of official products.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:41 AM, WxWatcher007 said:

Say again? Is this real?

 

 

No. That doesn't even happen in the Cascades or Sierras.

 

 

It's pretty early to be talking thundersnow, but the type of deepening that the ULL goes makes it a prime suspect...find where the best mid-level frontogenesis overlaps -EPV and you have a great spot for very intense banding and thundersnow.

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  On 1/19/2016 at 5:42 AM, Bob Chill said:

18z para is pretty bad. Slp crosses south VA with plenty of rain after the thump. NW outlier for now but a nasty run nonetheless

 

More amped than the regular operational model? Sounds like it takes the rain/mixing issue to another level.

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