dmc76 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 No nonsense with this. Pretty much a straight forward 2 to 4" type player outside of the belts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I am pumped for this clipper. Not many places do better than my area when it comes to a SW/Southerly flow ahead of a clipper giving lake enhancement, and then the NW lake effect that comes after. I'm usually in the "pivot point" and can cash in very nicely! One of the reasons I believe my specific area averages more snow than the 94-100" Muskegon averages just a few miles away. Regardless, the whole Muskegon area here in West Michigan does awesome in these events. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osubrett2 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks like there are 2 Clippers next week? The first on 12/13 and the 2nd on the 14th? Both look to take the same path too. Hoping to cash in down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 12z GGEM sill looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks like a good old fashioned CMH screwjob! Though these tend to trend south a bit with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks like a good old fashioned CMH screwjob! Though these tend to trend south a bit with time. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 And that's not even counting the stuff on the 14th the 12Z was hinting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 0z NAM @84 as snow over most of IL/IN/OH. Looks like it will be a 1-2" for most on this run without ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 No nonsense with this. Pretty much a straight forward 2 to 4" 1-2" type player outside of the belts... image.gif fyp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Hope it snows. Don't care if it don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 fyp. Nah clipper is decently strong with some good mid level lapse rates, I wouldn't be shocked if it is a 2-4" type system. I don't buy the NAM's track though, it isn't going to be that far north and I expect shifts south as we go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Nah clipper is decently strong with some good mid level lapse rates, I wouldn't be shocked if it is a 2-4" type system. I don't buy the NAM's track though, it isn't going to be that far north and I expect shifts south as we go forward. I noticed that's one of its biases wrt to clippers in the 48hr+ time period the last 5-7 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I noticed that's one of its biases wrt to clippers in the 48hr+ time period the last 5-7 years or so. Yeah it usually goes way too the north only to dip south run after run until it gets a good idea around 36-48hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Nah clipper is decently strong with some good mid level lapse rates, I wouldn't be shocked if it is a 2-4" type system MAYBE in a narrow area IF a decent frontogenesis band sets up for some time. But otherwise, it's moisture starved, too progressive and lacks large scale forcing (unimpressive Omega values). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm rooting for the Ohio Valley and our friend buckeye who is going bald waiting for an inch of snow! I imagine with the cold air moving over the lakes and the waves moving through that they will at least still see snowflakes flying in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 MAYBE in a narrow area IF a decent frontogenesis band sets up for some time. But otherwise, it's moisture starved, too progressive and lacks large scale forcing (unimpressive Omega values). Have to remember it is going to be cold as well, ratios will play up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Have to remember it is going to be cold as well, ratios will play up. I hate using the ratio card, because that's really all dependent on whether the best "forcing" and "moisture" intersects the DGZ. Models have a hard time predicting the aforementioned. If the best moisture or forcing ends up overshooting the DGZ (and they typically do with clippers), then you end up with Pixie Dust or Domino Sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I hate using the ratio card, because that's really all dependent on whether the best "forcing" and "moisture" intersects the DGZ. Models have a hard time predicting the aforementioned. If the best moisture or forcing ends up overshooting the DGZ (and they typically do with clippers), then you end up with Pixie Dust or Domino Sugar. We'll see, I have a bit more confidence that this will produce a decent 2-4" for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 0z GFS is south of NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 0z GFS is south of NAM Which isn't surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 With this weekend's storm, the clipper coming and all the wind shifts coming with it, almost all of the midwest looks to have some snowcover next week. According to the GFS, much of Michigan will pick up 1 to 2 feet throughout the week with these systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This will be more fun to track. GFS NAM looks like it has a more broad band of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Definitely has a snow squally look along the front for OH with the clipper. Would be nice to see. Any south bumps can only help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 0z GGEM looks more like GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Clippers with a good track are the one type of system I usually secretly (or not so secretly) expect to overperform locally. Between typical good ratios and lake enhancement, I expect this one to be no different. Hope I don't eat those words lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Clippers with a good track are the one type of system I usually secretly (or not so secretly) expect to overperform locally. Between typical good ratios and lake enhancement, I expect this one to be no different. Hope I don't eat those words lol. definitely not a secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Buckeye snowless streak dies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Buckeye snowless streak dies here. Getting few tenths of an inch to an inch is not exactly time to declare victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Getting few tenths of an inch to an inch is not exactly time to declare victory. According to the NAM, you guys would get 2 to 4 inches of snow. http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2016010912&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=084 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Technically Columbus snow drought will end tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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