SnowNiner Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well maybe in later runs. I really was hoping the Euro would have the PV in the NE like the gfs. I dont think it does us much good in the midwest imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well maybe in later runs. I really was hoping the Euro would have the PV in the NE like the gfs. I dont think it does us much good in the midwest imo. why would a PV be better in the NE than the MW ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well maybe in later runs. I really was hoping the Euro would have the PV in the NE like the gfs. I dont think it does us much good in the midwest imo.not when it's pressing and acting like a meat grinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover91 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 why would a PV be better in the NE than the MW ? It could allow a cutter if in the Midwest and would also allow more of a warm SW flow ahead of it thus warming us up also. Not good for anything other than a cold or even warm rain if it's too far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well maybe in later runs. I really was hoping the Euro would have the PV in the NE like the gfs. I dont think it does us much good in the midwest imo. That's the thing, storms take on varied forms....nino+blocking+cold is a good formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 it does on this run. The PV lobe is too strong and shears it out @216. Best case is that the lobe is not there at all. About 5 days out, all models show the PV stretching in attempt to split, some do and some reabsorb it and never fully splits. yesterdays 12z run phased with it and ran it up to the lakes. The overnight ensembles showed us the suppressed solution was a viable option. Hopefully today's eps has the vortex farther north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Talk about icebox on the euro! Calling phil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryWx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 This is a roulette wheel folks. The Ops models are really catching onto the storms it seems. Now it is just a matter of where the ball falls into who's backyard when the spinning slows to a stop. Better than no ball on the table at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Para euro or whatever it's called is a little more bullish with the mlk storm. We either need the southern wave to be quicker or the pv to not press so much and crush the southern stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Checking out the 12z GEFS individual members.. Oh my, there are some 19th century type snowstorms brewing here. Wow. Massive HP's with deep GOM lows spinning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well maybe in later runs. I really was hoping the Euro would have the PV in the NE like the gfs. I dont think it does us much good in the midwest imo. That's the thing, storms take on varied forms....nino+blocking+cold is a good formula For example, here's the 12z Euro (top) vs. Jan 2, 2002 (bottom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcatt Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Forgive my ignorance but what did Jan 2 2002 produce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nwsfo/storage/cases/20020102/ Was in Boone at this time, so I did not like what we got! Forgive my ignorance but what did Jan 2 2002 produceSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Forgive my ignorance but what did Jan 2 2002 produce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Big snow in C NC...good snow SW of there down to Atlanta and vicinity Does anyone know what has happened to the Raleigh NWS page with case studies and accumulation map?...I can't find it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Forgive my ignorance but what did Jan 2 2002 produce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk a great snowstorm here in West Georgia. About 4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max100 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Most every office in the interior SE is lows in the 20s and highs in the 40s???? Call me dumb, but what are they not seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Big snow in C NC...good snow SW of there down to Atlanta and vicinity Does anyone know what has happened to the Raleigh NWS page with case studies and accumulation map?...I can't find it now http://www.weather.gov/rah/events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonGA Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 a great snowstorm here in West Georgia. About 4". That one was a hard one to swallow for me. It snowed all day without sticking due to rates while just a few miles south it was piling up. Finally, after I had given up and went to bed a little lobe broke off and laid down 1.5" at my house in an hour. I drove down to the city the next day and was amazed at how much more they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Most every office in the interior SE is lows in the 20s and highs in the 40s???? Call me dumb, but what are they not seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That one was a hard one to swallow for me. It snowed all day without sticking due to rates while just a few miles south it was piling up. Finally, after I had given up and went to bed a little lobe broke off and laid down 1.5" at my house in an hour. I drove down to the city the next day and was amazed at how much more they had. our heaviest snow in that storm came at the tail end the next morning around 6 or 7am. Very heavy snow for about an hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Allan Huffman @RaleighWx 33m33 minutes ago Todays 12z guidance is definitely showing we need to watch in particular the Jan 16th to Jan 24th at time frame for SE wintry chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 http://www.weather.gov/rah/events Thanks Brick, great site there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxictwister00 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Big snow in C NC...good snow SW of there down to Atlanta and vicinity Does anyone know what has happened to the Raleigh NWS page with case studies and accumulation map?...I can't find it now One of my personally, favorite notable winter storms I got around 5-6 inches. I don't have to preach to the choir about how rare it is to get a half footer around here, the next time I saw that much snow wasn't until January 2011. I would love it if we got the opportunity to produce a redux of January 2002 (or January 2011 for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Per JB, At 168, IMO the Euro is making the same kind of error it made last weekend when it got sucked into holding cold air in the west. This time, it is too slow in the southern branch at 168 hours By having it back so far, it cant phase enough. What could happen in the coming days is that trends faster and all of a sudden what is now a storm heading out to sea is one that is coming up the coast, or even worse one things for sure alot of cold air is getting into the pattern But just like yesterday it was cutting it up, today it finds a different idea. Certainly both are possible, the middle Please remember those upset at this weekend, its because its phasing to far west. not getting shunted out. Remember what this looked like 7-10 days ago Cold is getting on the field now and the jet is alive. Should be go time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 One of my personally, favorite notable winter storms I got around 5-6 inches. I don't have to preach to the choir about how rare it is to get a half footer around here, the next time I saw that much snow wasn't until January 2011. I would love it if we got the opportunity to produce a redux of January 2002 (or January 2011 for that matter). Atlanta hasnt had a 6" snowstorm in 33 years !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxictwister00 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Atlanta hasnt had a 6" snowstorm in 33 years !! My backyard behind my house is not the entire population of Atlanta either. Just because the airport doesn't get 6 inches doesn't mean other parts of the city didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 My backyard behind my house is not the entire population of Atlanta either. your backyard doesn't count. The only place in Atlanta that counts is the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Most every office in the interior SE is lows in the 20s and highs in the 40s???? Call me dumb, but what are they not seeing?That's all the temp set up we need for snow and ice, all day, everyday ! It's pimpin' pimpin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 12z Euro Ensemble and GFS Ensemble look very similar at 500mb....both with southern slider next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxictwister00 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Per JB, At 168, IMO the Euro is making the same kind of error it made last weekend when it got sucked into holding cold air in the west. This time, it is too slow in the southern branch at 168 hours By having it back so far, it cant phase enough. What could happen in the coming days is that trends faster and all of a sudden what is now a storm heading out to sea is one that is coming up the coast, or even worse one things for sure alot of cold air is getting into the pattern But just like yesterday it was cutting it up, today it finds a different idea. Certainly both are possible, the middle Please remember those upset at this weekend, its because its phasing to far west. not getting shunted out. Remember what this looked like 7-10 days ago Cold is getting on the field now and the jet is alive. Should be go time soon It's gonna be a busy week next week. I hope everyone is well medicated. The storm that's suppressed around the 21st-23rd on the GFS has my interest as well. Is there much of any storm signal showing up on the ensembles during that timeframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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