Cold Miser Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Logical question Ginxy. The best snowmobiling in NY State is in the tug hill/old forge/Adirondack areas. Those areas are only half the distance that I travel to northern Maine. But That area is nuts with the amount of people and drunks on the trails. And I don't think they have any/much snow either at this point. Maybe NNE can get a couple big dumps the next 3 weeks, if they can, I may be able to get one trip in, which would be really nice. But that's a big IF RIGHT NOW. We'll see. Chill out dude. Take a long weekend...stay in Old Forge and enjoy the trails. ...Or do it during the week when there are less "drunks". http://www.oldforge.net/ (web cams looks ok) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Luckily I work for a brewery, free beer makes it tough to get upset about anything. And you get CAD Life is so unfair. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Take a good hard look at the data before the mid 90s and be thankful you've had this stretch since you were a toddler. http://www.weather.gov/media/okx/Climate/CentralPark/monthlyseasonalsnowfall.pdf The last 15 yrs has been "the good ole days" down my way. I can acknowledge that. Some younger folks are going to really lose it when we hit a truly rough stretch once again. https://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/MonthlySnowfall.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 the blizzard was kinda boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 His area probably does best on SWFE or no? With those you don't get shadowing, valley dry air, can't be screwed south/east...just massive up glide aloft and a wall of precip. Probably the best event for his spot as it's fairly stable and not risking getting screwed by banding or topography. But I don't remember what was so snowy about 08-09...did you guys get a ton of snow? That one is filed in good solid average winter here but I think it's over-shadowed by the ridiculousness of 2007-08. We had over 70" here. There was a bit less of a SE ridge and longitude at times hurt in 07-08 so I was thinking that he probably did better in 08-09. I was going off the top of my head. I think he did miss out on a few events though. I always thought of 08-09 as an underrated winter. At least around these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Just read in the MA forum the LR looks MEH now too. Oh well lets bring on spring. 3 inches to reach seasonal average but will forego for warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 lol NYC averages about 2ft for the season. How is 3ft through late Feb and a 2ft storm "sucky"? People are beyond spoiled in the northeast. NYC and east are doing fine , go outside the city 30 miles or so and its below . I average about 40-45 by me and yes I had 22 in one storm but 8 for the entire winter if u take out that storm . Snow cover has been awful here . High point nj which is about 55 miles nw of NYC has 15 inches this winter . They are almost 2000 ft in elevation and average 60 plus . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Just read in the MA forum the LR looks MEH now too. Oh well lets bring on spring. 3 inches to reach seasonal average but will forego for warmth. I wouldn't judge their outlook and apply it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Here is 2007-2008 vs 2008-2009: It does look like CEF area did a bit better in '07-'08....you gotta remember several events favored eastern areas in 2008-2009...like Jan 18-19, Mar 1-2, and Dec 21, 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I think the melt is because theblong range outlook was looking great until now. So it raises false hope only to crush it. If the LR modeling was accurate the melt would be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 THANK YOU! No offense to metfan, but the complaints coming out of the NYC forum are absurd. They got more in one storm than places even in interior NNE have seen all winter. They sit right at average while other places are on pace to finish with 20-25% of seasonal norm. This was supposed to be an interior winter, and it's the interior on pace for some of their worst winters ever while the metros will finish around normal or slightly above. Not everyone got that epic blizzard, sorry. The generation of snow weenies born after the late 1980s has been the most spoiled crowd in the past half century at least. They have no idea how sh***y winters can be for 7 or 8 years out of 10 in NYC. You can get some awful years, and they aren't one-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Here is 2007-2008 vs 2008-2009: It does look like CEF area did a bit better in '07-'08....you gotta remember several events favored eastern areas in 2008-2009...like Jan 18-19, Mar 1-2, and Dec 21, 2008. Where did you get these maps. They are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Where did you get these maps. They are awesome. I made them. I'm behind though by about 4 winters, lol. I need to do 2012-onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I made them. I'm behind though by about 4 winters, lol. I need to do 2012-onward. Wow, nice. Thanks for posting. Those are some of the best I've ever seen. Seriously. I know you guys don't really know me in here, but I lurk in here quite often. You have a great group here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I made them. I'm behind though by about 4 winters, lol. I need to do 2012-onward. They are really accurate down my way. Great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Will, those maps are awesome...thanks for taking the time to gather the data and creating the maps, and thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 On the bright side, we should have a truncated mud season. Beauty out there now. My driveway may be completely ice-free for the first time since the December sand storm. 45.2/34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Grilling tonight after late afternoon skiing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 forky said the blizzard was kind of boring down there...wonder what he means, did not he get like 30 inches?? i thought feb 03 and blizzard of 96 were kind of dull to be honest but i only had 16-17 inches of snow in each where i lived in central ct back for both of those storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Wow what a beautiful day almost ready to switch to spring mode Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 the blizzard was kinda boringDying squall lines with 30mph gusts and three claps of thunder are much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 was thinking the same thingfirst raking cleanup massive debris and where the heck did all these acorns come from, they were raked up in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 People riot when their sports team loses. Like literally light cities on fire from losing a 90-minute game. I can think of half a dozen or more things you use as examples, it just depends on the topic. I can't believe some parents will physically assault other parents over something their 4-year old kid did. Or shoot people for getting cut off in traffic. I still can't believe entire ethnic groups get killed because of a made-up book (religion), but to each their own. melt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 The generation of snow weenies born after the late 1980s has been the most spoiled crowd in the past half century at least. They have no idea how sh***y winters can be for 7 or 8 years out of 10 in NYC. You can get some awful years, and they aren't one-offs.that group is spoiled in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Aaaaaand I'm in spring mode. Just went for a leisurely six mile jog on the Charles amid brilliant, warm, effulgent sunshine. Pretty girls by the score coming out of hibernation. Almost forgot it was February. Let's torch this next month a la March '12 and get grilling, sailing and golf season underway. Stormies on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Classic False Spring day today...get that higher sun angle with a fairly strong SW breeze and it feels like winter has ended and this could go right through March. Of course that never happens at our latitude on Feb 20th...but the hacky sacks and frisbees are flying today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Kind of sucks...looks like I would need to take a trip about 15 miles north to get out from overcast skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Classic False Spring day today...get that higher sun angle with a fairly strong SW breeze and it feels like winter has ended and this could go right through March. Of course that never happens at our latitude on Feb 20th...but the hacky sacks and frisbees are flying today. its like a 40 degree day in mid Oct , you know winter is coming but not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Aaaaaand I'm in spring mode. Just went for a leisurely six mile jog on the Charles amid brilliant, warm, effulgent sunshine. Pretty girls by the score coming out of hibernation. Almost forgot it was February. Let's torch this next month a la March '12 and get grilling, sailing and golf season underway. Stormies on me. Second that. I got to walk past the never-used snowblower and started the Deere. -17* last weekend, and it still started right up. Frankly, I'm a bit suprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 we wont get off that easy with a march 12 redux...we will get one or two more boring snow events to keep just about everyone except nne out of complete futility then there will be a random day or two when it will be bitter cold and cloudy while another thread the needle system snows its way to 4-12 inches across the ny bight and possibly the mid atlantic/cape cod too ah then backdoor cold front season will rear its ugly head and in between an occasional nice day the dying gigante el nino will throw up some moisture up the coast into cold but not cold enough air to produce chilly windswept rain... but april showers bring may flowers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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