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You know what I mean......your overall idea was good.

I argued tooth and nail and was wrong.

QBO FTW.

I was only calling for a modest seasonal NAO, but even that was bad.

What is the current DJFM reading?

I'm not convinced it was the QBO either. There's been a big change in the N ATL since spring 2013. Not sure what exactly has caused it or when it will break, but that cold pool up there has been present for almost 3 years now.

At any rate not to go too off topic, but it will be an interesting phenomenon to study in hindsight.

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I'm not convinced it was the QBO either. There's been a big change in the N ATL since spring 2013. Not sure what exactly has caused it or when it will break, but that cold pool up there has been present for almost 3 years now.

At any rate not to go too off topic, but it will be an interesting phenomenon to study in hindsight.

QBO sure as hell did not help, but I do agree with your other thoughts.

Hey, we were due for a ratter, and we have paid the piper.

One could say that we are now due for a -NAO season.

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You always have to butt your nose in and get your opinions in whenever there's any issues or controversy. This has nothing to do with you. There was no reason for you to make that post or bring up my name. But you felt you needed to get in the middle as usual.

your name was brought up because it's you who freaked and ridiculed

Deal with it

-Cosgrove

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Man, there was a part of me writing that outlook that wanted to hit the bad luck aspect hard because of last year...regression, but I didn't.

Kicking myself, but hopefully we salvage another good event or two.

All sarcasm aside, the pattern that Will, Scott et all have referenced is viable and not without merit.

Lets see how it plays out, but I feel very pessimistic....just like I did in latter 2010.

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your name was brought up because it's you who freaked and ridiculed

Deal with it

-Cosgrove

I didn't ridicule anyone. I saw what all the 00z runs and their ensembles did. coming way west  .and I faced reality about this moving in the direction of a mainly non frozen event. Doesn't mean there won't be a little front end snow, but I'm not going to get excited over an op run that came 200 miles west 5 days out. 

Here's the deal,, when folks start posting about scenarios that you don't like, you get upset and start low blows and post shots. You do it to most everyone here, and it's not appreciated.

 

Maybe things can shift back east, but as of now I'm thinking mainly rain for at least my area

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QBO sure as hell did not help, but I do agree with your other thoughts.

Hey, we were due for a ratter, and we have paid the piper.

One could say that we are now due for a -NAO season.

I had someone else discuss that with me too. That cold pool has been there along with troughing. I'm not big on the waters driving the pattern, but there has been persistence there. Then again, we also have had a decent Pacific for about as long too.

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I had someone else discuss that with me too. That cold pool has been there along with troughing. I'm not big on the waters driving the pattern, but there has been persistence there. Then again, we also have had a decent Pacific for about as long too.

Its like the warm pool in the N PAC, it may not be a primary driver, but until presented with a reason to change, there is certainly an element of reciprocity ongoing between the sea and air, as that continues to feedback.

Knowing what we know RE the ENSO/Stratospheric canvas, there was certainly zero providing the impetus for change, as it turns out.

I thought there was, but I was apparently mistaken.

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