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Yea I agree...it's somewhat confusing at times. What I've learned over the years on here is follow the model runs for trends in either direction. But stick with GSP for the real deal forecast. They won't change until a real consensus of the models occurs. They are right MOST of the time. If I see them start to honk their horns tomorrow then I'll get excited.

Agree, GSP does an excellent job with forecasting. They have been in our neck of the woods long enough to understand to err on the side of being cautious and conservative. Hanging on to each new model is lots of fun....but informative is to be patient and let history be your guide.

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FWIW, Allan Huffman posted on Twitter at 6:15am ish, "overnight guidance has only served to increase confidence in winter storm threat. 00z ecmwf remained very winters looking" and 25 mins ago "overnight we cont to see a southward shift to the major synoptic features with this event. Ecmwf remained most extreme for nc". Says he will post his first call map sometime after the 12z and after that as he sees fit. I'd say it's def not over. I trust within reason what he says. Nothing is in stone of course.

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Oops went to edit this and wasn't paying attention and deleted it. Too many things at once....  :axe:

 

I don't post much because I am nowhere close to analyzing the models like most on this site, so I don't fill up threads with junk posts.  However, I have been monitoring storms for years on here and posted a few times here and there in the past.

 

After seeing all the excitement and MBY posts and everything going on because of the "possible" upcoming snow event for most on here, I thought I would post a voice of reason, as others have.

 

We were in the same place February of last year, with a huge winter storm coming.  GSP and others were all in with some of the highest snowfall forecasts for my area I had seen from them in recent history.

 

I know every storm is different and there are different factors on them busting or not, but regardless, we live in the south, and nothing is certain.

 

The last GSP forecast below was issued the day of the storm.  I live in Union County near Monroe and we were forecasted for 9.5"-10.5".

 

Sadly, we got nothing, other than some flakes mixed with rain to look at briefly, which the storm total map shows below.  

 

So for everyone's sanity, especially newbies and weenies, take everything with a grain of salt, be excited for the "potential", but there is a reason these are models and predictions, not guarantees, ESPECIALLY in the area we(I) live.  

 

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panthers game sunday will be a nightmare, roads may be a mess.  i wonder how the city is going to handle it if clt gets a sig storm with ice/snow?

 

Yea this place is a nightmare when we get a couple inches of snow, let alone possibly an inch of ice, and then snow on top it it!  Nightmare scenario here, there is no way they could handle it well enough for the amount of people travelling to the game.

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For the Triangle folks, keep an eye on the track of the storm.  If it tracks inland, we will most likely go over to rain, possibly for a good bit of the storm.  If it tracks offshore, we'll be good for mostly frozen.  Our area needs the transfer to happen south of what the Nam shows and the track needs to be 50 miles or so east of what the Nam shows.  It certainly can happen that way, but that's the key thing right now to watch.  If I had to make an official guess, I'd say a likely scenario is that we pick up an inch or two of snow/sleet, then go to ZR for a good .1 or .2 and then an inch of rain, followed by a dry slot, followed by some back end light snow...maybe a half inch.

 

Triad looks much better to stay all frozen, but even there, I would guess mixing will happen to some extent.

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For the Triangle folks, keep an eye on the track of the storm.  If it tracks inland, we will most likely go over to rain, possibly for a good bit of the storm.  If it tracks offshore, we'll be good for mostly frozen.  Our area needs the transfer to happen south of what the Nam shows and the track needs to be 50 miles or so east of what the Nam shows.  It certainly can happen that way, but that's the key thing right now to watch.  If I had to make an official guess, I'd say a likely scenario is that we pick up an inch or two of snow/sleet, then go to ZR for a good .1 or .2 and then an inch of rain, followed by a dry slot, followed by some back end light snow...maybe a half inch.

 

Triad looks much better to stay all frozen, but even there, I would guess mixing will happen to some extent.

 

Bingo.

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Brad P put out a great vlog. He said he was worried about rdu and ice. He didn't mention anything about 1in of plain rain here in rdu. Allan Huffman thinks 1.5in qpf frozen before a change of anything changing. Idk. I just think here in nw wake county it'll stay mostly frozen most or all.

 

1.5 before a change to rain.

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