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January Med/Long Range Discussion


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Bob - weeklies are like a train wreck...hello Dec pattern.

Worst post of the year...

Week 2 and 3 are outstanding only 4 breaks.

The new 46 day ensembles which are new version on the weeklies once past day 7 .

There is only 1 5 day pullback.

You and snowman are dust.

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Tonight's 00z GEFS....This is a semi-classic look for a snowstorm. Question is, will we get all the players to work together. There is going to be wave on the 7-9th. Behind that is the system that I'm keeping my eye on. How fast will the 7th--9th system move, will it help bring in cold air, we'll see... but the potential is there right now....

 

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00z GFS shows my dream scenario. The jan 8-9 event lays down the frame work (cold air) and the following wave blows up into a MECS.

Gfs will have it for a couple of runs then lose it.. Euro will pick it up... Then lose it. Then gfs will get it back. Then it will be surpressed.. You heard it here first.... Happy new year!

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Worst post of the year...

Week 2 and 3 are outstanding only 4 breaks.

The new 46 day ensembles which are new version on the weeklies once past day 7 .

There is only 1 5 day pullback.

You and snowman are dust.

I tried to post something earlier so I'll throw my two cents in. The stratosphere is warming big time. Blocking Highs over the Arctic are a guarantee in such a pattern. Watch Jan 10th-20th for a major snowstorm threat.

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Groundhog Day....

You forecast based on your desire to replicate 98 and not the guidance.

We showed you up in NY since Sept that idea was wrong .

So you come down here and stink the place up ?

In no time in 98 did you see what is coming day 10 through 20.

(And up in NY days 1 -7 are BN) which you completley whiffed on. After a 3 day warm up a wide spread arctic outbreak is on the table .

Week 2 and 3 advertise the vortex collapsing in on the heels of a possible EC system.

You whiffed on that too. Should I continue ?

Then you pull back for a week and according to the new weeklies , the trough digs back into the SE in the means and the ridge fires back into W Canada.

You posted hello 98 ..... you have embarrassed yourself on 2 boards now If you need help analyzing guidance please ask .

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You forecast based om your desire to replicate 98 and not the guidance.

We showed you up in NY since Sept that idea was wrong .

So you come down here and stink the place up ?

In no time in 98 did you see what is coming day 10 through 20.

(And up in NY days 1 -7 are BN) which you completley whiffed on. After a 3 day warm up a wide spread arctic outbreak is on the table .

Week 2 and 3 advertise the vortex collapsing on the heels of a possible EC system.

You whiffed on that too. Should I continue ?

Then you pull back for a week and according to the new weeklies and the trough digs back into the SE in the means and the ridge fires back into W Canada.

You posted hello 98 ..... you have embarrassed yourself on 2 boards now If you need help analyzing guidance please ask .

We had 2 snowstorms in the Blacksburg CWA last week of 1997... including a region wide 4 to 10 incher. This year it was 70.

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We had 2 snowstorms in the Blacksburg CWA last week of 1997... including a region wide 4 to 10 incher. This year it was 70.

His obsession with 98 throughout the enso thread up in NY this summer/fall has been that this would a torched snowless winter.

He found an ally in NC rain and unfortunately for you guys he's decided to come S .

We apologize .

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His obsession with 98 throughout the enso thread up in NY this summer/fall has been that this would a torched snowless winter.

He found an ally in NC rain and unfortunately for you guys he's decided to come S .

We apologize .

Ha! Well no real need to apologize, but appreciate the notice and some decent analysis. I saw posts from those two lately and wondered WTF. I don't think most in here mind people from other sub-forums posting in this one if it's good information. It's the trolling or nonsensical posts that get on nerves. Heck, we get enough of that from our own!
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Do you ever post anything other than drive by negativity?

I think things look pretty good this morning. Good patterns on both ensembles. GFS members are littered with possibilities.

Happy New Year everyone.

0z EPS mean has a low off the coast on the 11th with subzero 850s. That's plenty good enough for day 10.
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Terrible overnight operational runs though it looks like the euro 240 is about to develop something

Patience. This is just getting going. 2 things calm my nerves right now. In most years where the AO flips like this we go into a prolonged blocking period. I think that is true now. Even if the weeklies are right I see it as a reload week 4 not an end. Second, most of the time blocking gets established for a while before we get our snow. Often we have to endure some misses first. Usually we get something cutting to our west as the pattern first sets in then sometimes we watch a storm or two slide to our south waiting on the block to relax some. This isn't a new dance but usually we end up with something in this type pattern.

ETA: I was thinking how in 2009/10 when blocking set up in early dec we had a window mid dec then a relax and a second round. This year it's starting much later so maybe our first window is mid to late January and another later feb into March. Just a thought and I am not predicting another 2010...

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I'm very curious which way the models trend for the juiced system out of the Gulf late next week. This should be perfect timing for a trend to start one way or another. Who knows, maybe both systems could have at least some frozen mixed in! ;)

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