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January Med/Long Range Discussion


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  On 1/5/2016 at 5:43 AM, Fozz said:

That's a good question... I don't think it's happened ever since I started following weather in January 2002. Wow.

 

Seems like 1/12/1996 and 1/20/2000 are the most recent examples.

Wasn't that period around the time of Commutegeddon in 2011?

 

eta: There have been several. Since the link keeps changing, here is dca's monthly snowfall reports http://www.weather.gov/media/lwx/climate/dcasnow.pdf

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  On 1/5/2016 at 5:43 AM, Fozz said:

That's a good question... I don't think it's happened ever since I started following weather in January 2002. Wow.

Seems like 1/12/1996 and 1/20/2000 are the most recent examples.

Well, it looks like a 14-incher snuck in at the very end of January during the 1966 super nino--if that counts for anything
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  On 1/5/2016 at 7:02 AM, Highzenberg said:

Pretty terrible EURO run. ugh. 

 

Let me explain...there just isn't anything close to a snowstorm on the run. Few decent arctic outbreaks, but just nothing close to a snowstorm.

 

However, the GFS ensembles have a lot of huge hits in the 16-18th range. Only thing to really grasp onto on the 00z runs. 

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The 17th looks like a slow moving arctic front on the 6z.  An nothing looks like the 18z from yesterday.  Go figure.  Maybe we'll get lucky late Jan/Feb but if the pattern is supposed to be moving in a certain direction then I have to wonder what direction that is. 

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  On 1/5/2016 at 5:55 AM, Amped said:

2011 and a few small events in 2014 but that's about it for this region.

 

  On 1/5/2016 at 6:02 AM, BTRWx said:

Wasn't that period around the time of Commutegeddon in 2011?

 

eta: There have been several. Since the link keeps changing, here is dca's monthly snowfall reports http://www.weather.gov/media/lwx/climate/dcasnow.pdf

 

  On 1/5/2016 at 7:26 AM, Maestrobjwa said:

Well, it looks like a 14-incher snuck in at the very end of January during the 1966 super nino--if that counts for anything

 

Nope, he was talking specifically about significant events from Jan 10 to Jan 20th. There've hardly been any in recent years.

 

Commutageddon was late in the month.

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  On 1/5/2016 at 7:55 AM, Highzenberg said:

Let me explain...there just isn't anything close to a snowstorm on the run. Few decent arctic outbreaks, but just nothing close to a snowstorm.

 

However, the GFS ensembles have a lot of huge hits in the 16-18th range. Only thing to really grasp onto on the 00z runs. 

 

Ensembles > OP in the 10+ day range. Why are we even tracking 12 day storms? lol

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To make matters worse, my dad is getting Bay effect snow right now in Hampton Roads. Already a dusting and still snowing hard. The band has grown too. I can't believe they get snow before us... That is not why I moved up here.

 

 

Edit: Not to mention Cape Cod is getting heavy Ocean Effect right now

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  On 1/5/2016 at 1:24 PM, CoastalBecs said:

To make matters worse, my dad is getting Bay effect snow right now in Hampton Roads. Already a dusting and still snowing hard. The band has grown too. I can't believe they get snow before us... That is not why I moved up here

 

Just wait until Atlanta gets hit with 6"+....

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  On 1/5/2016 at 1:28 PM, MN Transplant said:

Mid-Jan is kind of a black hole in the snowfall records.  At DCA, the record on the 14th is 1.6".  2.2" on the 16th and 2.9" on the 8th.  No daily records over 10" from the 8th to 21st. 

thats very interesting.

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  On 1/5/2016 at 1:24 PM, CoastalBecs said:

To make matters worse, my dad is getting Bay effect snow right now in Hampton Roads. Already a dusting and still snowing hard. The band has grown too. I can't believe they get snow before us... That is not why I moved up here.

Edit: Not to mention Cape Cod is getting heavy Ocean Effect right now

It already snowed in Vegas too.

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  On 1/5/2016 at 1:26 PM, midatlanticweather said:

I keep worrying about a procrastination winter that never produces! I think we were spoiled the last 2 years, but I also think we waited quite a while to get snow last year as well.. kept hoping in January and it took until February to deliver. It was plenty cold last January!

We had a couple very minor events in November 2014. That winter started early, just didn't get much snow til late Jan.

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  On 1/5/2016 at 12:45 PM, leesburg 04 said:

Pretty sure the ensembles were calling for a snowstorm this weekend several days ago...that is why DT went woof...the ensembles are only correct when they scream warm

Not really. He started "barking" based on the advertised pattern on the Ensembles beginning to look favorable for an east coast storm. His thread was started on the 29th I believe. At least on the GEFS there was no storm, looking ahead to Jan 10-11. The trough axis/lowest height anomalies being advertised at that time were still pretty far west if you go back and look. 

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  On 1/5/2016 at 1:28 PM, MN Transplant said:

Mid-Jan is kind of a black hole in the snowfall records.  At DCA, the record on the 14th is 1.6".  2.2" on the 16th and 2.9" on the 8th.  No daily records over 10" from the 8th to 21st. 

It's definitely strange and something I have wondered about for a while especially considering this is the period of the year with the coldest averages. 

 

I had a post in some thread a while back about how there is another strange snow hole period in December centered between the 17th and 26th. I never did any research on it and went strictly by memory by it seemed like snowfall in December is more likely to occur between the 3rd and 15th opposed to the second half go the month. 

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